Jul 21, 2008 07:08PM GMT
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Politics - International
Israeli filmed shooting prisoner. Incident called "a stark violation" of its rules of conduct. This isn't the first incident of abuse by Israeli soldiers reported. So is this regret shown by officials sincere or just result of getting caught on film?
Israeli filmed shooting prisonerThe video shows a soldier aim and fire his weapon at a Palestinian man's legs
An Israeli human rights group has released a video that shows an Israeli soldier shooting a blindfolded Palestinian man with a rubber coated steel bullet at close range.
BTselem released the video on Sunday, saying it had forwarded a copy to the Israeli military police and was demanding an investigation be opened.
The video shows a Palestinian man, whom BTselem named as Ashraf Abu Rahma, handcuffed and blindfolded standing by a group of Israeli soldiers.
One soldier aims his weapon at the Abu Rahma's legs, from about 1.5 metres away, and appears to fire at him.
A statement on BTselem's website said Abu Rahma stated that the bullet hit his left toe.
The Israeli army admitted one of its soldiers had fired the shot and called the incident "a stark violation" of its rules of conduct.
"The injury was sustained when an IDF [Israeli army] soldier fired an anti-riot weapon in close proximity to the detained Palestinian man, who had been arrested for taking part in a violent riot," the statement said.
The army said it would investigate the incident.
The rights group said the incident took place on July 7, in the village of Nilin in the West Bank and had been filmed by a fourteen-year-old Palestinian girl in Nilin.
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raves -1 posted Jul 23, 2008 02:04PM GMT
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Even on an al Jazeera report they state that this is contrary to IDF policy and that there will be an investigation.
The fact that after 7 years of intefada this is the best they can do in finding IDF soldiers breaking their own rules is very telling. They shot his toe with a rubber bullet. How barbaric eh?
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raves +3 posted Jul 22, 2008 01:47PM GMT
Answered This Israeli government has always treated Palestinians fairly. It's the Palestinians who should have just left their homes to the Jews instead of becoming terrorists.
Not all Palestinians support Hamas and live peacefully with the Isrealis. Hamas and their supporters do not deserve to be compared to or treated like other Palestinians. He was involved in an anti-Isreali demostration, where is the whole story? What did he do to warrant the shooting, with a rubber bullet no less? He should be grateful he was not an Isreali facing Hamas soldiers, he would have been beheaded. Here is a picture of him...Innocent victim?
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raves +1 posted Jul 21, 2008 11:32PM GMT
Answered This Israeli government has always treated Palestinians fairly. It's the Palestinians who should have just left their homes to the Jews instead of becoming terrorists.
But I also think there is bad seeds every where we go.I hate to think my families home land to be so awful.But they have gone through so much .That does not give them the right to ignore their laws.Like I said there is bad everywhere,this is just another case. -
raves +1 Jul 21, 2008 11:46PM GMTExcuse me?My husbands black and my children are half black.How dare you come at me like im racist.Maybe you should check yourself.No one ever said anything about african americans,this conversation is about Israel.And dont try the wo is me crap,my kids are jews and black they get it ten times worse then anyone.
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raves +1 Jul 21, 2008 11:53PM GMTAnd you need to read what I wrote up top ,thank you.I said that there is bad seeds all over the world and those men were some of them.And you dont think that african american men and women get passes for a lot of things?You know since you sparked the question.My husband thinks so.
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raves Jul 22, 2008 12:03AM GMT (edited)I see a very very racist woman in you.You will not go far and prosper in life like that.People on sh warned me about you and your racist views,but I told them I had to see it for my self.Now I have.You need to look in the mirror before spouting off at the mouth about racism.My people were slaves for 4000 years you got some catching up to do.Now go look that info up,I speak from facts.My husband knows his history thank you,he is a proud strong ,educated black man.
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raves +1 Jul 22, 2008 12:19AM GMTSweetie you are the poster woman of a mad black woman.Your strength does not scare me at all.I encourge it all the way.For I am to a very strong Jewish woman.Everything you just said was very racist.I am very educated I graduated from college,and I am going again.So feel how you like.Everyone on sh,knows you to be what you are ,our poster woman for denial and racism.You dont like mixed raced couples ,and dont like me even more because I have a strong black man on my arm,and you dont .So I wish you very well in your hate filled life,and I will pray for.
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raves +1 Jul 22, 2008 08:45PM GMTNumber one you are an aquaintance not a friend. I don't know you and you don't know me. I couldn't pick you out in a police lineup. Number two, I didn't say YOU are a liar, I said THAT is a lie. There is no historical evidence of Jews being in bondage other than what's interpreted from the Torah or Old Testament of the Bible. In the New Testament, the Jews told Jesus that they were in bondage to no man (John chapter 8), are they lying?
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raves +2 Jul 22, 2008 06:43PM GMTKay let me ask you this. When you get up to take the bus do you think about which section you are allowed to sit in? How about which water fountain or bathroom you are allowed to use. Back in the 60-70s in my old neighborhood you would not have been allowed across the bridge to enter. All that was wrong but now it is better. Is it 100 percent? No. But don't look at everything through rascist glass and I won't look through rose colored glass either.
Answered This Israeli government has always treated Palestinians fairly. It's the Palestinians who should have just left their homes to the Jews instead of becoming terrorists.
Not all Palestinians support Hamas and live peacefully with the Isrealis. Hamas and their supporters do not deserve to be compared to or treated like other Palestinians. He was involved in an anti-Isreali demostration, where is the whole story? What did he do to warrant the shooting, with a rubber bullet no less? He should be grateful he was not an Isreali facing Hamas soldiers, he would have been beheaded. Here is a picture of him...Innocent victim?VERY DOUBTFUL