Who was your favorite Kennedy?

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Who was your favorite Kennedy?

by Girl, Interrupted Posted August 29, 2009 17:40:56

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+2 raves CZAR JAG August 29, 2009 22:33:11

Answered: Undecided
I would have to say they are all my favorites in their own special way. What the world could have been had they all grown old with us.

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Phamie September 02, 2009 19:25:01

Answered: Undecided
All of the Kennedys are my favorite. It was old Joe Kennedy that sponsered my family into this country, if it were not for the Kennedy family, I would not be an American. Wonderful people!
SpyderX August 30, 2009 03:49:08

Answered: None of the above
(Lisa) Kennedy (Montgomery) from MTV.
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CZAR JAG August 29, 2009 22:33:11

Answered: Undecided
I would have to say they are all my favorites in their own special way. What the world could have been had they all grown old with us.
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jams August 29, 2009 19:18:41

Answered: John
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StarrGazerr August 29, 2009 18:57:52

Answered: Bobby
I was too young to remember much about JFK. I remember his assassination, and of course I have seen and read many of his speeches and writings. Bobby Kennedy was the first political figure that ever "drew me in" to the larger world and the political storms that we live in every day. He was an inspiration to become more than we are, to create, not destroy, for the good of all. Teddy, while he certainly had an awesome and distinguished career, has my respect, but not in the same way that RFK did. And I doubt I would even have included John, Jr. While his sister Caroline has devoted much of her life to noble causes, John John seemed to be more inclined to use his fame to be something of a bon vivant, and never seemed to have any interest in the public welfare the way the rest of his family did.
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Girl, I... to StarrGa... August 29, 2009 23:35:15 (edited)

I completely agree... except about John John. He was very young. He may have come into his own at some point had he not crashed his plane.

Take a look at my comment below for some quotes of Bobby's that I absolutely love.
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Meg August 29, 2009 18:20:41

Answered: Undecided
I admired all of them most of all because they didn't forget their roots. They knew their ancestors faced racism as Irish Catholics, and they stood up for for minorities facing racism and for the little guy. Unlike some Irish Catholics, who make it "big", become Republicans and move to Connecticut! The "I got mine" crowd.
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Girl, I... to Meg August 29, 2009 18:42:59

Yes, Bobby especially, fought for minorities. He was considered radical at the time.
Skeeter... to Meg August 29, 2009 19:47:18

Don't you mean they didn't forget the silver spoon in their mouth they were born with. Also, Irish and Catholic are not races, therefore, if their ancestors were mistreated because of either one or both, it can't be called racism.
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Meg to Skeeter... August 30, 2009 00:06:33

Antics with semantics. Call it what you will, they were sensitive to the plight of people who faced discrimination. Robert Kennedy was on the phone to the governor of one of the southern states (cannot recall which one) when a mob was outside a black church. He let the Gov. know that the National Guard would be called out to protect the black people in that church unless if the Gov. did not have the mob removed. They stood up for people who were discriminated against whether it was for race, nationality, religion, whatever you want to call it.
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Girl, I... to Meg August 30, 2009 00:09:59

He also went to Ceasar Chavez during his hunger strike and commended him and all the others who participated. He ultimately gave his life for us minorities. No silver spooned argument can take that fact away.
Skeeter... to Girl, I... August 30, 2009 02:32:47

You wouldn't have meant shit to him if he hadn't had something politically to gain from helping you. That's how he and other liberals operate. They prey on those from which they can gain politically. What's bad about it is they use the taxpayer's money to fund their actions.
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Girl, I... to Skeeter... August 31, 2009 20:27:44

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it however I am able to disagree which I respectfully do. There was no "political gain" in standing up for Ceasar Chavez at the time because Mexicans weren't valued in this country (somethings haven't changed.) My father was part of the movement, I speak that of which I know.
Skeeter... to Girl, I... August 31, 2009 20:54:04

First, I don't have a problem with Mexicans. My neighbor's wife is from Mexico, however, she is legal. My problem is with the illegal Mexicans, or illegals from any area for that matter. I value anyone legally in this country but if illegal, I have no use for you.

Being that Chavez was a civil rights leader and Kennedy, as stated by many, also did the same, that alone shows they have something in common and likely fought for many of the same people. That is, unless Kennedy only fought for the civil rights of U.S. citizens. I find that hard to believe. See below:

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007. It would have provided legal status and a path to citizenship for the 12 - 20 million illegals in the U.S. It provided funding for 300 miles of vehicle barriers, 105 radar and camera towers, and 20,000 more border patrol agents along with other administative changes. It was a compromise after 3 related bills failed:

1) the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act (S. 1033), a bill proposed in May 2005 by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain, sometimes referred to as the "McCain-Kennedy or McKennedy Bill"

2) the Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act of 2005 (S. 1438), a bill proposed in July 2005, and

3) the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Ac...

First, I don't have a problem with Mexicans. My neighbor's wife is from Mexico, however, she is legal. My problem is with the illegal Mexicans, or illegals from any area for that matter. I value anyone legally in this country but if illegal, I have no use for you.

Being that Chavez was a civil rights leader and Kennedy, as stated by many, also did the same, that alone shows they have something in common and likely fought for many of the same people. That is, unless Kennedy only fought for the civil rights of U.S. citizens. I find that hard to believe. See below:

The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007. It would have provided legal status and a path to citizenship for the 12 - 20 million illegals in the U.S. It provided funding for 300 miles of vehicle barriers, 105 radar and camera towers, and 20,000 more border patrol agents along with other administative changes. It was a compromise after 3 related bills failed:

1) the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act (S. 1033), a bill proposed in May 2005 by Senators Ted Kennedy and John McCain, sometimes referred to as the "McCain-Kennedy or McKennedy Bill"

2) the Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act of 2005 (S. 1438), a bill proposed in July 2005, and

3) the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 (S. 2611), sponsored by Senator Arlen Specter, which was passed in the Senate in May 2006 but never passed in the House.

The bill's sole sponsor in the Senate was Majority Leader Harry Reid, though it was crafted in large part as a result of efforts by Senators Kennedy, McCain and Kyl, along with Senator "Sell Out" Lindsey "Sell Out" Graham from my State of SC.

Don't think he didn't have something to gain from what he did.
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Girl, I... to Skeeter... August 31, 2009 21:07:17

Who said you have a problem with Mexicans?

My point is that Kennedy was a civil rights activist for the sake of civil rights. He did have something in common with Ceasar Chavez because they both fought for civil rights.

You state that Kennedy did not care about civil rights and then you state that he did. I agree with the latter.
Skeeter... to Girl, I... August 31, 2009 22:04:47

You only got part of it right. I said he wouldn't have given a shit about civil rights if he didn't have something to gain politically from doing it. I never said he didn't do thing related to them. Remember, he was a politician and the #1 rule for them is to get reelected.
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Girl, I... to Skeeter... September 01, 2009 08:22:20
Skeeter... to Girl, I... September 01, 2009 12:36:11

And that's exactly how the Kennedy's, all of them, operated. I'll help you if you will vote for me and I'll help you if you vote for me, and so on. Again, don't think he would have given a shit about anyone but himself unless he had something to gain.
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Girl, I... to Skeeter... September 02, 2009 01:02:29

Good comeback supposed "teacher."
Skeeter... to Girl, I... September 02, 2009 13:12:49

What does that mean?
Girl, I... to Skeeter... September 02, 2009 13:14:53

Whatever you want it to mean.
Skeeter... to Girl, I... September 02, 2009 13:22:23

You can take this to mean whatever you want. However, it is very straightforward so nothing can be misunderstood:

Cierre el jode arriba usted pedazo liberal de mierda.
Girl, I... to Skeeter... September 02, 2009 16:19:24

I don't know spanish so can you translate?
Skeeter... to Girl, I... September 02, 2009 17:07:42

I'll show you the same courtesy you had for me. Look it up on an online translator.
Skeeter... to Meg August 30, 2009 02:26:41

It's not an antic. When you can show me someone of the Catholic RACE or the Irish race, we'll talk.
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Meg to Skeeter... August 31, 2009 01:58:31

O.K., they faced BIGOTRY as Irish Catholics. They fought against BOTH bigotry and racism. Is your motive really to correct the description? I think not. It appears all you are really trying to do is tear down the family. If all your are concerned about it that I used the word "racism" instead of bigotry this should solve that. But I have a somewhat sneaking suspicion you have another agenda.
Skeeter... to Meg August 31, 2009 02:08:01

The family did enough to tear themselves down without me having to do a thing. For many of them, if the family name hadn't been Kennedy, no one would care less about what they did.
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Meg to Skeeter... August 31, 2009 02:38:08

Funny, then, that tributes came from all over the world. That the Queen of England had given Sen. Kennedy the title of "Sir". That deep sorrow was expressed from both sides of the aisle. The last few days of tv coverage must have been hard on you. Your hatred for the Kennedy family is patently obvious. Carrying around so much hate and bitterness is not good for your health. Just curl up with your hatred and go nitey night. I'm sure you have such pleasant dreams.
Skeeter... to Meg August 31, 2009 02:40:43

It will be more like nightmares after having to watch and listen to all the bullshit about him on TV and radio.
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Girl, I... to Meg August 31, 2009 20:28:39

This guy clearly has a vendetta against the Kennedys. NOTHING will change his mind...
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Meg to Girl, I... August 31, 2009 23:58:06

I'm really not trying to change his mind; I'm not sure he has one.
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Girl, I... to Meg September 01, 2009 08:22:34

Good point. :)
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True~Male August 29, 2009 18:15:41

Answered: John, Jr.
John Jr. was the best and the most handsome Kennedy of all them-- He would have outshined any of the other Kennedy Men !!
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Girl, Interrupted August 29, 2009 18:00:49 (edited)

Answered: Bobby
Bobby was an activist. His activism ultimately costed him his life. He sought out to help my people as well and because of that I am forever grateful to him.

“Somebody has to speak up for the Negroes and Indians and Mexicans and poor whites.”
~RFK

“I am here out of respect for one of the heroic figures of our time – Cesar Chavez. I congratulate all of you who are locked with Cesar in the struggle for justice for the farm worker and in the struggle for justice for Spanish-speaking Americans.”
~ RFK

"I look around this room and I don’t see many black faces who will become doctors. Part of a civilized society is to let people go to medical school who come from ghettos. I don’t see many people coming here from the slums, or off of Indian reservations. You are the privileged ones here. It’s easy for you to sit back and say it’s the fault of the Federal Government. But it’s our responsibility too. It’s our society too… It’s the poor who carry the major burden of the struggle in Vietnam. You sit here as white medical students, while black people carry the burden of the fighting in Vietnam.”
~ RFK
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Di August 29, 2009 17:49:32

Answered: John
Even though I was very young and didn't "know" a lot about politics, I couldunderstand him and i don't know I somehow felt that this person card about our country, I will never forget how I felt when he was killed. I was truly truly sad.
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Girl, I... to Di August 29, 2009 18:05:41 (edited)

I wasn't born and I feel sorrow for the loss.
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Ken-Again August 29, 2009 17:47:47

Answered: Ted
I met Ted many times over the years, and he was always earnestly interested in what was being discussed, and always a gentleman.
At one Christmas party I went to he dressed as Milli (of Milli Vanilli - sp??) and did an entire Karaoki bit for the other senators.
If you met him - you'd respect him - despite his failings as a human.
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Girl, I... to Ken-Again August 29, 2009 18:43:42

He seemed like a fun guy.
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4bent1 to Ken-Again August 30, 2009 00:43:49

I watched the Irish Wake last night and laughed along with those in attendance. Orin Hatch was a true surprise, I have a totally different opinion of him now. We have all lost a special man who knew the importance of "bipartisianship". I hope those left behind will learn from him, but I doubt it. Ted's passion was not for the "big business", his voice was for those who had no one to speak for them. He certainly wasn't perfect, but I've yet to meet anyone who was. I will miss the Liberal Lion whether I agreed with his stand or not.
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The Sane One August 29, 2009 17:45:56

Answered: None of the above