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You shall kindle no fire : Do You Keep the Sabbath?

Fef 2011/02/25 22:10:35
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Shabbat Shalom! The Hebrew word "shabbat" ("sha-bot") means "sabbath" or "day of rest." The Hebrew word "Shalom" means "hello" and "goodbye," similar to the Hawaiian "Aloha" and the Indian "Namaste". "Shalom" also means "peace." Jews greet each other with the words "Shabbat shalom" to welcome the day of rest and worship.

Rabbi Siegel once again gave me permission to post his insightful commentary about the sabbath day as we enter the weekend. In a sense, we owe the Jews for the weekend since the Hebrew Torah mandated a day of rest from work for people and animals. The Torah includes keeping the sabbath holy as the fourth of the ten commandments, "Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy."

The religious, agnostic and even the anti-religious can appreciate Rabbi Siegel's discussion of the details, interpretations and wisdom in the holy text.

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Torah Portion: Vayakhel
Book of Exodus
Chaps. 35:1-38:20
February 25, 2011

"You shall kindle no fire throughout your settlements on the Sabbath day (Exo. 35:3)."
After the six days of creation, God rested on the seventh day-Shabbat (the Sabbath day). Therefore, in observance of Shabbat, one abstains from work and acts of creation on the seventh day of the week (Saturday). This includes lighting, extinguishing, or transferring a fire on Shabbat.

The ancient rabbis understood the prohibition of fire to mean fires kindled on the Sabbath, but not fires that were started before the Sabbath. In times when fire not only lit candles, but was depended upon for heating, cooking, and lighting, it was important to light the necessary fires before the Sabbath to provide for the needs of the day. During the early centuries of the common era there was a Jewish group, known as "Karaites" (literally, "literalists"), who only recognized the literal word of the Torah. They refused to light candles before the Sabbath or kindle any form of fire before or during the day. In fact, they spent their entire Sabbath in the dark!

Today, few of us depend on a fire in the home for warmth, cooking, or lighting. Electricity and natural gas provide a more reasonable alternative. This does not mean this portion of Torah is no longer relevant. In the rabbinic spirit of interpretation, fire needn't be just a physical flame. The Eitz Hayim Humash writes, "You shall kindle no fire" is interpreted to include the fire of anger. Arguments and angry shouts are as much a disruption of Shabbat as working and spending money."

The radio waves and television channels are bursting at the seams with talking heads yelling, calling names, and angrily arguing with one another. This inflammatory display of meanness and disrespect has found its way into the lexicon of the average American. Whether it be road rage, gossip, disrespect, or verbal abuse, it solves no issues nor does it have any place on the holiest day of the year-Shabbat. In Talmudic Aramaic we say "Adirabah", or "quite the contrary." The Shabbat is a time to exercise restraint over our lives and actions. For one day a week, we can try to consciously guard our tongue and assuage our anger. In doing so, we might just learn to see those closest to us in a more favorable and loving light, and we may be able to extend the exercise to a second day, and a third, and a fourth. . .

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  • gracious43 ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2011/02/26 16:05:52
    gracious43
    God was testing Abraham, which the bible states, and if you recollect, God stopped the sacrifice.

    You honestly don't know about the human sacrifices of pagans? Really? I must say I am somewhat without words for what you haven't studied. Especially since you have put yourself here as a spokesperson for Paganism. You are sure to get challenged on points like this, and it would serve you well to inform yourself so you can prepare with responses.

    The human/infant sacrifices of the Caananite god Baal and Molech are very well documented and recorded by Herodotus, who records the burning of live babies. In the Old Testament, God does so much more than simply condemn this practice. He made it known that Israel was going to be conquered and punished for doing this.

    Leviticus 18:21 "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

    Jeremiah 32:35 ""They built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-hinnom to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I had not commanded them nor had it entered My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

    Both the Greeks and the Romans exposed their children. --allegedly to the gods of Mt...



    God was testing Abraham, which the bible states, and if you recollect, God stopped the sacrifice.

    You honestly don't know about the human sacrifices of pagans? Really? I must say I am somewhat without words for what you haven't studied. Especially since you have put yourself here as a spokesperson for Paganism. You are sure to get challenged on points like this, and it would serve you well to inform yourself so you can prepare with responses.

    The human/infant sacrifices of the Caananite god Baal and Molech are very well documented and recorded by Herodotus, who records the burning of live babies. In the Old Testament, God does so much more than simply condemn this practice. He made it known that Israel was going to be conquered and punished for doing this.

    Leviticus 18:21 "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

    Jeremiah 32:35 ""They built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-hinnom to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I had not commanded them nor had it entered My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

    Both the Greeks and the Romans exposed their children. --allegedly to the gods of Mt Olympus.

    There is decriptions of sacrifices for the services of the dead in Egyptian Pyramid literature. Some of the sacrifices were killed first and placed in the tombs of the kings, and the rich. Other victims weren't so lucky. They were literally sealed into the tombs alive, and their bones are scattered around the tombs, as they paced through their coffins, starving to death, waiting to die.

    And by the way, the pagan religions treated their women like sewage.
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  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 16:11:31
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    1 your wrong about how pagans treat women
    because of our godddess HECATE
    he Goddess Hecate is also known as the liberator of women, as she sets women free from the bonds created by man. That is why the Christian Church put Hecate down and created her as the Goddess of evil and destruction. During Medieval times, pagans were being tortured based on their belief in the Goddess. Patriarchy reigned and the fear of feminine power caused the Church to demonize Hecate.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 16:13:01
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Women in paganism are treated as Equals so i dont know what information your getting but your wrong
    Because of centuries of religious propaganda and misinformation, many conservative Christians, and others, associate Pagans/Wiccans with Satanists even though the two belief systems are as different as Christianity and Atheism.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 16:14:13
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Athena GODDESS OF WISDOM
    one of the most important gods in pagan culture

    Artemis also called Diana
    goddess of hunting, wilderness and wild animals. She was also a goddess of childbirth,
    Goddess of Virginity and the protectress of the women against abusive husbands
  • gracious43 ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2011/02/26 16:54:46
    gracious43
    Well, Athena wasn't very wise in her instructions to men about how to treat their Greek wives. Greek women were enclaved in their homes, the were not given opportunities in education, and indeed, credit for much of any intelligence. Certainly the right for a woman to vote for her own legislators was not even a mild notion.

    If Athena had any influence at all in regards to women, she was clearly usurped by Apollos, whose oracle of Apollos bore the inscription: "Keep your women under submission."

    Artemis, as well, didn't do so much for protecting her worshippers from the abuslve husbands of Greece or Rome, and apparenty by the first century, was considered to be more of a money-maker for her idol creators than an actual protector of anything. When Paul entered Ephesis--this was the home of Diana--the idol makers caused a near riot, chiefly because the gospel was putting them out of business.

    The Vestal virgins of Rome. were locked in, between the ages of six to ten, until their thirtieth birthday. If they were found having lost their virginity, they were buried alive!

    Hecate appears to be an amorphous goddess, with no clear place at all. Sure she was included in the pantheon of the greek gods and goddesses, but she takes no predominant place at all. This is what the Greek...
    Well, Athena wasn't very wise in her instructions to men about how to treat their Greek wives. Greek women were enclaved in their homes, the were not given opportunities in education, and indeed, credit for much of any intelligence. Certainly the right for a woman to vote for her own legislators was not even a mild notion.

    If Athena had any influence at all in regards to women, she was clearly usurped by Apollos, whose oracle of Apollos bore the inscription: "Keep your women under submission."

    Artemis, as well, didn't do so much for protecting her worshippers from the abuslve husbands of Greece or Rome, and apparenty by the first century, was considered to be more of a money-maker for her idol creators than an actual protector of anything. When Paul entered Ephesis--this was the home of Diana--the idol makers caused a near riot, chiefly because the gospel was putting them out of business.

    The Vestal virgins of Rome. were locked in, between the ages of six to ten, until their thirtieth birthday. If they were found having lost their virginity, they were buried alive!

    Hecate appears to be an amorphous goddess, with no clear place at all. Sure she was included in the pantheon of the greek gods and goddesses, but she takes no predominant place at all. This is what the Greeks did to her. You can read their records for yourself. And once again, she certainly didn't have any positive influence of the lives of ordinary women like me, in the world that worshipped her.
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  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 16:59:12
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +2
    Hecate is a Titan one that zeus feared himself and bowed to her
    when Zeus banished the Titans males he shared Hecate his power of the thunderbolt as if she could not take it by force
    she is the Daughter of Gaea
    Gaea is mother earth
    hecate power thunderbolt force daughter gaea gaea mother earth mother earth hecate power thunderbolt force daughter gaea gaea mother earth gaea
  • Zozo ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2011/02/26 21:22:48
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:24:03
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    i have information on hecate and gaea on my profile
  • Zozo ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2011/02/26 21:40:00
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:41:18
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    and other gods and goddesses on my profile and it explains what paganism is
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 17:03:29
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    actuallly women did have important role in ancient history
    women warriors of greece were archers even the Spartans trained women as archers
    im sure u heard of the Amazons
    not all those ancient legends how greeks mistreated thier women are true
    some men in every society treats women good and bad not the entire religion
    hstory was re written by those who conquer the heroes
    paganism is 80% women so how could the religion be Anti women?
    once again you are listening to centuries of religious propaganda and misinformation

    Paganism is a Religion with principals that both Sexes are equal
    love honor spiritual enlightment and knowledge
    a man is not better than a woman
    a woman is not better than a man

    course
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 17:06:15
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    the Vestal virgin of rome being killed that thats full of crap
    1 they were around no men so theres no way any man could take thier virginity they were around priestesses and female servants only
    when one seeked their visions at least 10 women were in the room at all times and the man was kept at least 10 -20 feet away
    they did not kill you for losing your viriginity thats nonsense
    centuries of religious propaganda and misinformation is what your listening to
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... gracious43 2011/02/26 17:09:58
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    you forget when Christians took over rome and greece they destroyed many pagan records and rewrote them so we look like barbarians
    in an over 1000 year war to supress and destroy pagan society when they finally killed those who refused to convert kept thier religion a secret and kept the traditions alive thats why pagans have gone quiet
    because christians went on a genocide war to wipe them out

    just ask the native americans who suffered at the hands of christians who tried to convert them to thier religion
  • dill fazie 2011/02/26 00:14:56
    dill fazie
    I've been a Sabbath keeper for 21yrs now... Friday sundown to Saturday sundown... I then go to a church service on Sun am... it has allowed me to find much peace in the worlds fast pace... I'd suggest it to everyone, thanks for the thread...
  • Sister Jean 2011/02/26 00:13:56
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 21:29:48
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:30:31
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 21:35:50
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:38:38
    Sister Jean
    +1
    been here 4 years
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 21:40:47
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:41:14
    Sister Jean
    +1
    yes as of this May
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 21:44:14
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 21:45:33
    Sister Jean
    +1
    I love it here,but I hate the big changes TOO OFTEN!!!!
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 22:08:02
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 22:11:15
    Sister Jean
    +1
    talk about challenges HUGE congratzzz on your achievements talk challenges huge congratzzz achievements blessings
  • Zozo Sister ... 2011/02/26 22:21:32
  • Sister ... Zozo 2011/02/26 22:48:29
  • 12345678910 2011/02/26 00:09:06
    12345678910
    +1
    Excellent post, and food for thought for everyone.
  • Bob DiN 2011/02/26 00:02:33
    Bob DiN
    +1
    My sabbath is Sunday. I go to early mass and then relax.
  • HappyGuy Bob DiN 2011/02/26 00:54:46
    HappyGuy
    I like to go out and eat on the Sabbath !
  • ★misfit★ 2011/02/25 23:47:10
    ★misfit★
    +2
    Not like this, no. Jesus changed the rules regarding the Sabbath. He himself broke it by healing on that day. I do think we need to take a day of the week to rest and remember God, though.
  • James R... ★misfit★ 2011/02/26 02:48:02
    James Rowntree
    True, Jesus healed the sick on the Sabbath... and nowhere in the Bible does it say that acts of love and kindness are forbidden on the Sabbath, or on any other day. For Jesus, healing was NOT work.
    So he did NOT break any rules. As Jesus said... the Sabbath was made for man... not man for the Sabbath.
  • ★misfit★ James R... 2011/02/26 16:12:16
    ★misfit★
    Right, but the Pharisees seemed to think he was breaking the Sabbath. Or perhaps they were just looking for a way to incriminate him?
  • James R... ★misfit★ 2011/02/28 22:58:29 (edited)
    James Rowntree
    +1
    Yes, certainly the Pharisees were looking to incriminate Jesus... all their efforts failed.
    They had to resort to paying false witnesses against Jesus in the end.
    Also the Pharisees were spiritually blind, not recognising their Messiah who was standing in front of them, despite all the Prophecy that the Pharisees knew very well being fulfilled by Jesus. Most of the Pharisees were also very legalistic and judgemental... and jealous of losing what they considered was their rightful power and prestige to Jesus... especially as Jesus taught as one who had authority (as he did, from God) and not as the Pharisees taught.
  • steve~pwcm~jla 2011/02/25 23:44:27
    steve~pwcm~jla
    +2
    Not in the Rabitical ways but in Christian ways
  • Leo --Name Subject 2 Change-- 2011/02/25 23:43:25
    Leo --Name Subject 2 Change--
    +2
    I personally don't keep sabbath or ever have a day of rest. i'm in high school taking hard classes; sundays are actually my work days. . . you know, because i wait until the last minute to do homework i could have all weekend. 8P
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2011/02/25 23:42:07 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +3
    I don't believe anyone keeps the Sabbath anymore, to be honest. I know I'm guilty.
  • Sheila 2011/02/25 23:13:44
    Sheila
    +5
    As I don't believe the literal translation of the Bible, I don't mark a specific day and brick and mortar building to honor God. God lives in my heart and mind, and I go there at least once a day to honor him. I think the concept of "one day a week, we can try to consciously guard our tongue and assuage our anger" is falling short of God's intent. This should be an everyday occurrence.
  • Lester 2011/02/25 23:00:27
    Lester
    +5
    Yes. For a society that seems unable to be civil, being civil at least one day a week is a great idea.
  • Bob DiN Lester 2011/02/26 00:03:52
    Bob DiN
    +1
    Some can't even be civil for one day.

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