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Would You Pay $100 for a Pack of Cigarettes?

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Many of us would like to see smoking completely eradicated -- but is hiking the cost of a pack of cigarettes up to $100 a fair way to do that? The extreme-sounding option is being considered in New Zealand's Ministry of Health, where efforts are under way to get the country totally smoke-free by 2025, Sky News reports.

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The country is also considering a 10 percent increase on a pack of 20 cigarettes year-on-year from 2013 to 2025, meaning it would cost $40 for a pack by 2024. However, the more extreme option would get packs to $100 by 2020.

According to Sky News, a briefing paper on the issue claims that "Tobacco taxation is the single most effective intervention available to drive down smoking prevalence figures." The Ministry is also reportedly considering regulating tobacco as a highly toxic substance; banning smoking in cars with children; doubling of anti-smoking media campaigns; and removing tobacco from duty-free sale. So, would you pay $100 for a pack of smokes? We hope not ... for your wallet's sake!

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  • bob h. ehrhornp 2012/04/25 03:17:29
    bob h.
    Every one I've met that quit, was a little cranky for 2 or 3 days. Compare that to the drugs advertised on TV. They CLAIM stroke, heart attack, suicide etc, etc. And for some reason. it's all legal.
  • ehrhornp bob h. 2012/04/26 16:46:37
    ehrhornp
    I remember Dean Edell once said that giving up tobacco is one of the toughest addictions to give up. My wife who gave them up in '97 still has a craving for them. You are right about prescription drugs on TV. Love it when they say a side effect can be death.
  • bob h. ProudPr... 2012/04/25 03:13:14
    bob h.
    Because the same thing happens every time. They go to prescription drugs. Prescription drug death are over twice the rate of street dope. Hence Dr shopping. 80% of people have stopped smoking in the US and we're losing in life expectancy. Prescription deaths are thru the roof.
  • ProudPr... bob h. 2012/04/25 03:15:51
    ProudProgressive
    So what would you suggest?
  • Jimmeh ProudPr... 2012/04/25 06:00:49
    Jimmeh
    +1
    Because it's highly addictive, and therefore very very profitable. By banning cigarettes, you cause the prohibition all over again. All that'll happen is the formation of huge black markets.

    Gradual increase of taxation of over time (capping at a reasonable max) and increased awareness for younger generations is all that can be asked of the government. Making it illegal would simply shift the distribution to shadier people that are harder to regulate.
  • ProudPr... Jimmeh 2012/04/25 15:17:51
    ProudProgressive
    All valid points. But isn't that essentially punishing the victim? Since it's not disputed that smoking is physically addictive, that means that most smokers will be forced to sacrifice something else to keep buying the drugs they need.

    And you know, in the bigger picture it's not so profitable when you take into account the number of lives lost as well as the amount of lost productivity for smoking related illnesses.

    There's no easy answer. I think it's great that some local governments (like NYC for example) make smoking cessation assistance available to people at no charge. Programs like that ought to be expanded so that anyone who WANTS to quit can at least get some help in doing so.

    As Mark Twain said: "Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it a thousand times."
  • Jimmeh ProudPr... 2012/04/30 05:16:10
    Jimmeh
    Punishing the victim? I suppose so, but it pales in comparison to the damage they're already causing themselves with cigarettes. And, more importantly, the taxes (in theory) should benefit everybody else who doesn't smoke cigarettes, or help people quit (assuming the govt. doesn't use it for war and poorly placed subsidies).

    It's not as profitable when you take into account the consequences, that's true. BUT we already have those consequences no matter what, because if we leave it as is, it's around, and if we ban it, it'll just become a black market. And it's always profitable for dealers to sell illegal substances, after all. So when you look at it that way, perhaps the best thing you can say is "at least we can make tax money off this," even if that is rather cynical.

    And of course, I'm not against assistance programs. As long as they're effective -- I wouldn't want taxes to go towards them if they weren't helping anybody.

    Hah, amusing quote. Although rather trivial -- the whole point of quitting is that you never go back.
  • bob h. Jimmeh 2012/05/01 01:29:10
    bob h.
    In Europe, cigarettes are the most smuggled commodity there is; and cigarettes are legal.
  • Jimmeh bob h. 2012/05/01 04:11:31
    Jimmeh
    Interesting. Somehow that's still profitable...?
  • AskZilla ProudPr... 2012/05/07 00:48:44 (edited)
    AskZilla
    I've often wondered why we have these double standards when it comes to cigarettes and alcohol too. Especially alcohol, which causes far more or just as much damage to society as other illicit drugs I can think of.

    And now, in some states they have a problem with cigarette trafficking and smuggling because they are priced so high in some areas of states like New York.
  • gregaj7 2012/04/25 02:02:57
    No way
    gregaj7
    Don't smoke.
  • Heisenberg 2012/04/25 01:58:38
    No way
    Heisenberg
    +1
    I wouldn't pay 100 cents for a pack of cigarettes because smoking is one of the dirtiest habits a person can have. In fact, that's a deal breaker for me if anyone wants to date me, ladies.
  • bboy Heisenberg 2012/04/25 02:22:40
    bboy
    +4
    And the dirtiest is driving... that dark fog over L.A. Didn't come from smokers
  • Heisenberg bboy 2012/04/25 02:25:16
    Heisenberg
    No, it didn't, but there are also new ideas to make cars run off alternative energy. They don't have green cigarettes.
  • 098765 Heisenberg 2012/04/25 05:36:25
    098765
    +2
    yeah, they do.
  • Heisenberg 098765 2012/04/25 05:38:39
    Heisenberg
    Actually coal mining causes more lung damage than smoking.
  • mmmholl... Heisenberg 2012/04/25 15:58:47
    mmmhollywould
    +1
    sure they do
  • Elyse bboy 2012/04/25 03:00:46
    Elyse
    +1
    To start with, driving isn't a habit. I don't live in the US, but I think worldwide, the cost of supporting people who smoke in the health system is ridiculous. Apparently cancer can't even cure smoking anymore.
  • Chieki 2012/04/25 01:58:30
    No way
    Chieki
    +2
    I don't smoke ANYTHING!
  • Depsycho 2012/04/25 01:55:53
    No way
    Depsycho
    +3
    Absolutely ridiculous. I'm not a smoker, but the prices are already insane; they don't need to be any higher. There is NO REASON for that. Health departments need to stop trying to smother out smokers with unnecessarily high prices.
  • Flea 2012/04/25 01:44:35
  • Katherine 2012/04/25 01:42:33
    Yes
    Katherine
    +1
    The World Health Organization (WHO) has unanimously adopted an anti-smoking treaty - the first global public health measure ever approved.

    The aim of the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control is to reduce an estimated five million smoking-related deaths each year.

    All 192 member states are now committed to strict curbs on the advertising, marketing and sale of tobacco products within five years.
  • Dave The Canuck 2012/04/25 01:42:07
    No way
    Dave The Canuck
    +2
    I wouldn't pay anything for any pack of cigarettes. I don't smoke.
  • mark 2012/04/25 01:29:28
    No way
    mark
    +4
    But taxing cigarettes to $100 a pack will just cause the black market to thrive in New Zealand.
  • Betty 2012/04/25 01:28:55
    No way
    Betty
    +1
    No way! That's insanity.
  • Hebsi 2012/04/25 01:18:59 (edited)
    No way
    Hebsi
    +1
    I wouldn't pay a penny for a pack of cigarettes. I prefer living long and without addiction.
  • George Jovanovic 2012/04/25 01:18:12
    No way
    George Jovanovic
    +3
    Contraband will flourish. Politicians are the worst history students.
  • Relay 2012/04/25 01:12:45
    No way
    Relay
    +1
    i wouldn't even pay a dollar...
  • retrograve 2012/04/25 00:59:21
    No way
    retrograve
    +1
    I wouldn't even pay a dime. retro cig ad retro cig ad
    ...All I could read was Master...
  • bboy retrograve 2012/04/25 02:12:14
    bboy
    +1
    Expect master going to get lively if he catch this child
  • BabyBear 2012/04/25 00:59:09
    No way
    BabyBear
    +1
    Well that's one way to get people to quit smoking.
  • The Logical Canadian 2012/04/25 00:58:38
    Yes
    The Logical Canadian
    Would you spend thousands to buy weed?
  • Squatch... The Log... 2012/04/25 01:17:46
    Squatch Master
    Yes
  • blissful 2012/04/25 00:56:26
    No way
    blissful
    I would request for it on my birthday and christmas. Lol!-lol! pan handling
  • mmmholl... blissful 2012/04/25 16:00:39
    mmmhollywould
    +1
    that is ridiculous!
  • blissful mmmholl... 2012/04/25 19:18:19
    blissful
    What do you mean? The price of Cigarettes or the sign?
  • mmmholl... blissful 2012/04/30 12:41:44
  • blissful mmmholl... 2012/04/30 17:23:31
    blissful
    Yes..
  • animelover123 2012/04/25 00:52:10
    No way
    animelover123
    +1
    I could be using that money for somethimg that wont give me lung cancer and kill me
  • Hannah 2012/04/25 00:47:22
    No way
    Hannah
    +2
    I only think people who have a serious problem would

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