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WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A CORRECTION OFFICER JOB IN A PRISON?

BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/06/18 16:11:41
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Yes, I'd like to do that.
No, not my kind of thing to do.
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  • Dzeeng 2012/06/24 06:21:06
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Dzeeng
    no way
  • beach bum 2012/06/21 05:42:53
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    beach bum
    no way
  • Reggie☮ 2012/06/21 02:58:55
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Reggie☮
    +1
    No thank you.
  • NYYankees 2012/06/19 03:27:59
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    NYYankees
    +1
    and im a criminal justice major. i sure as hell rather be patrolling than being a corrections officer. at least you have a gun outside... no weapons inside of jail.
  • Q 2012/06/19 02:36:24
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Q
    +1
    I know that someone has to do it but I wouldn't. Who wants to have human waste thrown on them or risk violence on a daily basis maybe even resulting in they're being killed. Then on top of that they may even have their family threatened if they don't do what they're asked by gang-bangers with connections on the outside.

    No thanks...not even if it paid well which it doesn't.
  • Moonbeams 2012/06/19 02:10:58
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Moonbeams
    +1
    My Dad was a CO captain for 29 years, Recently retired.

    The environment is harsh, and can take its toll on your frame of mind if you're not prepared for it.
  • ImageBandit ~ American Patriot 2012/06/19 02:02:50
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    ImageBandit ~ American Patriot
    that was my sister theresa - now she guards the president when he goes to reno
  • endthefed.soundmoney 2012/06/19 00:31:55
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    endthefed.soundmoney
    +1
    I would probably get fired or be one of the prisoners as I would go postal after the first fight with some low life.
  • Bill 2012/06/18 23:37:13
    Undecided
    Bill
    +1
    Did it. Didn't like it. It was very boring. It was only a medium security prison and I had the midnight shift so most of the prisoners were asleep. Most were OK because they wanted work release. Some were very bad. I quit after 3 months to go back to school to study math and engineering and computer science. Much better than working there.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/06/18 23:21:42
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    NarcolepticGoat
    No thank you
  • Cat 1017 2012/06/18 23:15:24
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Cat 1017
    I have niece that works in that capacity...It fits her personality....She's good at it....
  • BlueMax372 2012/06/18 23:14:23
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    BlueMax372
    CO's (my apologies to any who might be friends) are in large part notorious degenerates themselves. In my rarely-to-be-humble opinion, anyone who would gravitate toward that type of job most assuredly has "issues."
  • Kozmo BlueMax372 2012/06/19 02:56:31
    Kozmo
    +1
    Same goes for cops & security. Psychopaths.
  • BlueMax372 Kozmo 2012/06/20 02:50:31
    BlueMax372
    You mean like Democrats?
  • Kozmo BlueMax372 2012/06/21 05:24:23 (edited)
    Kozmo
    +1
    Apolitical, pretty well security goons getting a black-shirt &/or jack-boot complex, work for any régime.
  • SuiJuris249 2012/06/18 23:07:03
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    SuiJuris249
    +1
    Its not that I would not be able to handle the jobs physical requirements its that I do not believe that the majority of those in there need to be in there. They are in there for victimless crimes, which really is an oxymoron because the 1st rule of law is there must be an injured party in order for a crime to have been committed. Something they keep forgetting to educate not only lawyers but judges and the population as well.

    Then there is the fact that the majority of guards have a lil god complex going on and are basically high school bullies in grownup bodies and I have never gotten along with bullies.
  • Bill SuiJuri... 2012/06/18 23:54:03 (edited)
    Bill
    {the 1st rule of law is there must be an injured party in order for a crime to have been committed.}
    OK. So, when did you attend Harvard to NOT learn the ridiculous notion? That is why there are anti-drug laws. The state is the injured/offended party. One doesn't have to draw blood to have injured someone.

    OK OK OK Your traveling down the road at 150 mph for a stretch of 10 miles or so and you narrowly avoid hitting other cars and pedestrians. Then, a cop pulls you over and you say to him, "Officer. I didn't hurt anyone. You can't punish me. Officer, didn't you know that the 1st rule of law is there must be an injured party in order for a crime to have been committed."
    When that cell door slams behind you, call a lawyer and explain it to him. He'll hang up.
    How about an arson in which no one gets hurt? What about throwing a pipe/knife/rock but you miss them?

    {Something they keep forgetting to educate not only lawyers but judges and the population as well. }
    Just an oversight, I'm sure. They will be adding this to the curriculum this Fall of 2012 at Harvard and Yale and other law schools. To think they've missed this after all these centuries. Then, emails to the ACLU and other practicing attorneys and judges and then the NY Times will publish it in their Op Ed.

    Does it HURT when you think? You're dumb as an ox and a moron. Kind of an OXyMORON. You are priceless.
  • Dodgerfan Bill 2012/06/19 00:52:16
    Dodgerfan
    +1
    Trolls get around, round, round they get around.
  • Bill Dodgerfan 2012/06/19 12:04:49
    Bill
    EXCELLENT rebuttal. Quite cogent. Is that the best you have? What? Am I not allowed to participate in polls on SH? If I reply to someone else on SH am I then trolling? LOL Well, since you don't like my replying to others, I guess I will have to stop using the SH site. OH, oh, oh. If only you would like me. I feel so sad. But, at least you have, and have always had, intelligent replies to my comments. And they always are one sentence and include some form of the word "troll."
  • SuiJuri... Dodgerfan 2012/06/22 14:19:27
    SuiJuris249
    +1
    Yes they sure do not to mention he shows his serious ignorance in the law.
  • SuiJuri... Bill 2012/06/22 14:22:25
    SuiJuris249
    crime n. A violation of a law in which there is injury to person a persons property or fraud (theft).

    license n. A permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an unlawful act.

    "Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct."

    II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135

    "The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business i...









































    crime n. A violation of a law in which there is injury to person a persons property or fraud (theft).

    license n. A permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an unlawful act.

    "Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct."

    II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135

    "The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life, liberty, and property. His Rights are such as the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his Rights are the refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under warrant of law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."

    "Upon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the state. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the state and the limitations of its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and find out whether it has exceeded its powers. It would be a strange anomaly to hold that the State, having chartered a corporation to make use of certain franchises, could not in exercise of its sovereignty inquire how those franchises had been employed, and whether they had been abused, and demand the production of corporate books and papers for that purpose."

    Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75

    "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them."

    Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436, 491

    "The claim and exercise of a constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime."

    Miller vs. U.S., 230 F. 486, 489

    "There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights."

    Snerer vs. Cullen, 481 F. 946

    The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

    Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579

    Blackstone’s Commentaries Book 1 “Rights of Persons” (First Edition, Claredon Press, Oxford, 1769) explains our rights as they existed in the received law-of-the-land when the 13 original states wrote their constitutions.


    And these may be reduced to three principal or primary articles ; the right of personal security, the right of personal liberty ; and the right of private property : because as there is no other known method of compulsion, or of abridging man's natural free will, but by an infringment or diminution of one or other of these important rights, the preservation of these, inviolate, may justly be said to include the preservation of our civil immunities in their largest and most extensive sense.

    I. THE right of personal security consists in a person's legal and uninterrupted enjoyment of his life, his limbs, his body, his health, and his reputation.....


    The commentary continues with a discussion of punishments, including dismembering of a limb. Keep in mind that the US Constitution Amendment 5 requires due process to take "life or limb".

    Page 130...

    3. BESIDES those limbs and members that may be necessary to man, in order to defend himself ... the rest of his person or body is also entitled by the same natural right to security from the corporal insults of menaces .... though such insults amount not to destruction of life or member.

    4.THE preservation of a man's health from such practices as may prejudice or annoy it, ...."

    By the way, the Supreme Court considers Blackstone's Commentary as the received law-of-the-land as it existed when the original states wrote their constitutions.

    As for arson where nobody gets hurt someones property was hurt and if it was yours and you did it to collect insurance you are acting in fraud. So definition of a crime answers your question there.

    An I doubt they will because Harvard does not really teach constitutional law they have been excellent though in what Frédéric Bastiat called perversion of the law into plunder.
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  • Bill SuiJuri... 2012/06/22 17:08:43
    Bill
    WFT? Nice cutting and pasting but totally irrelevant to the points that you and and which I responded to.

    {the 1st rule of law is there must be an injured party in order for a crime to have been committed}
    What has that got to do with got to do with all of that stuff you spewed out? i.e.
    I. THE right of personal security consists in a person's legal and uninterrupted enjoyment of his life, his limbs, his body, his health, and his reputation.....

    These crimes are not victimless and the injured party is the law and the state. Just because someone visited a prostitute or took drugs (victimless?) does not mean the law was NOT violated. Prostitution and drugs lead to other crimes and misery. All your writing came to naught because it was not germane. Interesting on constitutional law but NOT what we were talking about.
  • Dodgerfan SuiJuri... 2012/06/19 00:49:02
    Dodgerfan
    +1
    Not only are prisons and jail full of illegal drug users but they are costing us a tremendous amount to house and feed. Also, an inordinate number of minorities are in while the dope running big pins are on the outside.
  • Bill Dodgerfan 2012/06/19 12:08:26
    Bill
    +1
    Yawn. I've heard that argument for the past 40+ years from liberals. It's very tiresome. So, I guess, to avoid the expense of incarceration, we should not have any laws against illegal drug use and distribution. Perhaps then the "dope running big pins" will be put out of business or enjoy even greater profits at the expense of human misery. Be careful what you wish for.
  • BlueMax372 Dodgerfan 2012/06/22 20:12:37
    BlueMax372
    Hell, the White House is occupied by an illegal drug user costing us TRILLIONS!
  • Pat 2012/06/18 22:42:05
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Pat
    I would think that would be a very scary and depressing job. No thanks.
  • tlee 2012/06/18 22:28:24
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    tlee
    +2
    I have a brother who is a sergeant with the corrections dept and it has changed him for the worst in the 10 yrs he has been doing it. He brings that I am better than you attitude home with him and treats his family like they are criminals,or just beneath him. Been married and divorced twice in the same time scale and is just not a nice person to be around for any length of time.He used to be jovial but now,just a jerk for the most part.
  • BlueMax372 tlee 2012/06/18 23:15:47
    BlueMax372
    I see you are quite familiar with the drill! Thank you!
  • RicardoCabeza 2012/06/18 22:03:12
    Yes, I'd like to do that.
    RicardoCabeza
    Having to deal with the worst of situations has been something I have become accustomed to, But I sure would hate it if the DEFCON 3 scenario were to be encated, some of those people do not belong in prison.
  • BlueMax372 Ricardo... 2012/06/18 23:18:35
    BlueMax372
    +1
    May I presume, hermano mio, that you'll look the other way while nosotros hermanos y yo vanish into el noche from the FEMA camps? Hmmmm?
  • Ricardo... BlueMax372 2012/06/18 23:49:15 (edited)
    RicardoCabeza
    No to FEMA... I guess I would have to crawl into the Pizza machine, I know I just signed my own warrant, but no, I could not work for the FEMA system.
  • gregaj7 2012/06/18 21:49:58
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    gregaj7
    That's not a job recommended for my physical structure.
  • Katfish 2012/06/18 21:42:34
    Yes, I'd like to do that.
    Katfish
    Only a female prison, he'll I'd be an inmate once a week.
  • U-Dog 2012/06/18 21:40:26
    Undecided
    U-Dog
    That type of job isn't the first on my list, I would not wan't to work in a regular prison overly exposed to the gangs and general population but working in a SuperMax prison might not be too bad.
  • Ricardo... U-Dog 2012/06/18 22:05:02
    RicardoCabeza
    +1
    Super max is the nothing left to lose population, and it would not be the scene you would expect.
  • AntonioVásquezCárdenas 2012/06/18 21:20:42
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    AntonioVásquezCárdenas
    De ninguna manera.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/06/18 19:58:06
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Lady Whitewolf
    I'd be choking someone for STUPIDITY within a week....
  • Vijay Pawar 2012/06/18 17:03:07
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Vijay Pawar
    In Prisons even girl prisoners are tougher than normal men out.
  • Flamingolady 2012/06/18 16:59:01
    No, not my kind of thing to do.
    Flamingolady
  • Professor Wizard 2012/06/18 16:18:32
    Undecided
    Professor Wizard
    If I lost my current job.. and there would no other options :: I could do that.

    I have a cousin that is exactly that!

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