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Would you let a cop search your vehicle if they didn't have probable clause or a search warrant?

Goducks5 2012/08/07 03:53:32
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  • Ashley<3Sierra 2012/08/08 14:36:31
    Yes
    Ashley<3Sierra
    I've got nothing to hide, and I respect cops, so why not?
  • fallnhope 2012/08/08 04:33:33
    Yes
    fallnhope
    There's not much in my car: a blanket, bottle of water, probably 3 different brushes, hair ties and pens. Oh, and a cat carrier...
  • unclepat 2012/08/07 23:45:59 (edited)
    Yes
    unclepat
    Damn right. But he'd be watched VERY CLOSELY. The cops always seem to find that one tiny bag of drugs under the back seat of a black man's ride in Miami. Besides for black folks like me, if you refuse they hold you up for hours while "waiting for the search warrant"!! Then again, ain't too many black men driving around 70 Torino GT's or 69 Camaros! lol
  • gocar 2012/08/07 23:33:12
    Undecided
    gocar
    Although I have nothing to hide it would depend on the demeanor and attitude of the policeman. We once had a knock at the door and two detectives asked if they could take a look at our car. We did not know why but we opened the garage and let them look. They were very polite and said they were looking for the same make, model, and color in a hit and run accident. They just thanked us and left.
  • Hamilton 2012/08/07 23:12:58
    No
    Hamilton
    +1
    Unless, like, she was really really HOT.
  • Raphy 2012/08/07 23:12:46
    No
    Raphy
    +1
    No. I would be worried about them planting something in my car.
  • handeman 2012/08/07 20:46:58
    No
    handeman
    +1
    I stand with the 4th amendment
  • kcandi 2012/08/07 20:04:41
    No
    kcandi
    +1
    Hell no!!
  • Professor Wizard 2012/08/07 19:52:00
    No
    Professor Wizard
    +1
    ONLY if they allow me to completely search their cop car first - - which they will NEVER allow!
  • Goducks5 Profess... 2012/08/07 22:10:32
    Goducks5
    Someone who thinks like me.
  • Centrist_Bill 2012/08/07 19:25:26
    Undecided
    Centrist_Bill
    +1
    Maybe. If Im in a hurry to get somewhere NO if I have time sure why not but ONLY to see the look on the cops face.
  • D S 2012/08/07 18:46:57
    No
    D S
    +1
    NFW. It's been a long time since I've been asked.
    They would always say, "Do you mind if I/we look in your car".
    My answer, "Yes".
    Then I would need to explain that I (do) mind.
    Why would they assume that yes, meant it was Okay/
  • £€¥•Disturbed•¥€£ 2012/08/07 18:42:24
    Yes
    £€¥•Disturbed•¥€£
    +2
    I have nothing to hide, Plus they'll get a chance to check out my 1965 Pontiac GTO ;] " no problems here officer, I know it's a sexy beast"
  • kcandi £€¥•Dis... 2012/08/07 20:06:00
    kcandi
    +2
    unless they want that sweet GTO and plant drugs to confiscate it.........gotta think it through!
  • £€¥•Dis... kcandi 2012/08/07 20:51:35
    £€¥•Disturbed•¥€£
    +2
    TOUCHE! Never mind then I change my answer. Nobody is touching my baby...
  • peach635 2012/08/07 18:34:01
    Yes
    peach635
    +2
    yes because i have hardly anything in my car and nothing bad. I also wouldnt want to look suspicious by not letting them.
  • none 2012/08/07 18:25:01
    No
    none
    +1
    I have nothing to hide but I do have my rights. If an officer wants to search it they'll have to get a warrant.
  • The Runnel Rat 2012/08/07 18:08:42
    Yes
    The Runnel Rat
    +1
    Heh... Little do they know I don't have a car! MWAHAHA! >:D
  • YepIDidItSo 2012/08/07 17:17:11
    Yes
    YepIDidItSo
    +1
    because I don't have anything illegal in my car
  • thefatguy 2012/08/07 15:43:35
    No
    thefatguy
    +1
    No way. I do not consent to any searches without force.
  • Monkey D. Luffy 2012/08/07 15:28:51
    Undecided
    Monkey D. Luffy
    +1
    I would say Yes because I don't have anything to hide from the law..but what if the cop himself tries to incriminate me by putting something..?
    I dunno..>_<
  • Crankney - PKM 2012/08/07 14:44:00
    No
    Crankney - PKM
    +2
    4th amendment Baby! Worth dying for just like the 2nd one!

    4th amendment
  • BackWoo... Crankne... 2012/08/07 18:02:37
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    If there is “probable cause”, like it or not, the Motor Vehicle Exception search is valid, and the 4th Amendment does not apply.
    - - -
    “Although American drivers are fairly well-versed in traffic laws, many are unaware of their rights in regard to searches of their vehicles. Although the Fourth Amendment propounds a right of the people against unreasonable searches and seizures sans a warrant, the Supreme Court has carved out a very specific and broad exception to this warrant requirement for motor vehicles. As the materials in this bibliography will detail, in 1925, the Supreme Court first established the capacity for warrantless searches of automobiles. Since 1925, the Court has expanded this exception to include not only cars but also motor homes, not only owners of vehicles but also their passengers, and not only the vehicle itself but also any containers within the vehicle.”
    http://libguides.law.gsu.edu/...

    But if you have a problem with me confiscating drugs and weapons that I have discovered due to probable cause under he Motor Vehicle Exception, then I will be more than happy to let them go. We wouldn't want to offend drug and gun runners would we?
  • Crankne... BackWoo... 2012/08/08 11:23:48
    Crankney - PKM
    Lets stick to bustin the bad guys and leave me alone, like I said before, 4th amendment Baby! Worth dying for just like the 2nd one!
  • BackWoo... Crankne... 2012/08/08 11:45:00
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    The “bad guys” who are transporting drugs and guns on our Nations Highways (like the stretch of I-40 I patrol) are the ones we are “busting”. And it is the “Motor Vehicle Exception” that allows us to “bust” them.

    And as I said... if you have a problem with me confiscating drugs and weapons that I have discovered due to probable cause under he Motor Vehicle Exception, then I will be more than happy to let them go because you believe I've trampled on their 4th Amendment Right. We wouldn't want to offend drug and gun runners would we......... Baby?
  • Crankne... BackWoo... 2012/08/08 19:30:48
    Crankney - PKM
    +1
    Lets hope you don't find probable cause with 'this' good guy.
  • BackWoo... Crankne... 2012/08/08 20:00:10
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    I hope I don't have a cause to have probable cause ;')
  • BackWoo... Crankne... 2012/08/08 20:02:40
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    I hope I don't have a cause to find probable cause ;')

    I'm a “by the number's” type of LEO, and go by the guidelines set by the Tennessee Attorney General on what we can use for probable cause.
  • Outta' Here. 2012/08/07 14:00:51
    Undecided
    Outta' Here.
    +2
    Depends on my mood and the attitude of the cop.
  • classic 2012/08/07 13:54:32 (edited)
    No
    classic
    +3
    However they will do it anyway by inventing some reason they had probable cause.. YOu can delay the search untill a warrant is brought in.. Some places I have been they have presigned warrants.. LOL,,

    I took a trip to Canada on my Motorcycle.. No problem on the Canadian crossing, however coming back the US crossing stopped me, the agent took all my stuff out of my trunk, saddle bags, and every where they could find something, even took the seat off to look underneath it.. They said OK your free to go now.. I raised a stink untill they put everything back just as they found it,, Later I protested to the Head of the Border Patrol and hope I got the asshat fired....
  • darwolf 2012/08/07 13:43:19
    No
    darwolf
    +2
    Fourth Amendment
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
  • BackWoo... darwolf 2012/08/07 18:03:25
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    If there is “probable cause”, like it or not, the Motor Vehicle Exception search is valid, and the 4th Amendment does not apply.
    - - -
    “Although American drivers are fairly well-versed in traffic laws, many are unaware of their rights in regard to searches of their vehicles. Although the Fourth Amendment propounds a right of the people against unreasonable searches and seizures sans a warrant, the Supreme Court has carved out a very specific and broad exception to this warrant requirement for motor vehicles. As the materials in this bibliography will detail, in 1925, the Supreme Court first established the capacity for warrantless searches of automobiles. Since 1925, the Court has expanded this exception to include not only cars but also motor homes, not only owners of vehicles but also their passengers, and not only the vehicle itself but also any containers within the vehicle.”
    http://libguides.law.gsu.edu/...

    But if you have a problem with me confiscating drugs and weapons that I have discovered due to probable cause under he Motor Vehicle Exception, then I will be more than happy to let them go. We wouldn't want to offend drug and gun runners would we?
  • Carlos benoit 2012/08/07 13:40:47
    Yes
    Carlos benoit
    +2
    We have no choice in that matter, Police Officers today are so corrupt that they can do whatever they want, (As long as they wear the badge). If you refuse, you get beaten and thrown in jail and fined a large sum.
  • Moonage 2012/08/07 13:17:18
    Yes
    Moonage
    +3
    Got nothing to hide. I wouldn't harp on the "probable cause" whine because it's way too easy for them to just make one up and you've probably given them a good reason to do it by protesting too much. If you confidently say sure, that will more likely sway them to leave you alone than acting like you're smuggling meth.
  • KilrQueen 2012/08/07 13:00:11
    Yes
    KilrQueen
    +1
    I'm not hiding anything and I don't really care. If it makes him happy and gives him piece of mind then go for it.
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/08/07 12:41:29
    No
    Christopher Kirchen
    +2
    Unlike liberals I don't bow and scrape to the liberal establishment and its agents.
  • unclepat Christo... 2012/08/07 23:51:14
    unclepat
    Spoken like a true white man. Now try being an innocent black man in Brooklyn or anywhere in the deep south!
  • Christo... unclepat 2012/08/08 02:11:37
    Christopher Kirchen
    You know, the first step to having that change is for people to cease to use it as an excuse.
  • unclepat Christo... 2012/08/08 22:12:13
    unclepat
    I repeat...spoken like a true white fella. Obviously, in your neck of the woods racial profiling never existed or is just an urban myth!
  • BackWoodsMike 2012/08/07 12:36:51
    No
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    To answer the question.. no Law Enforcement Officer has the authority to (Warrantless) search your vehicle without “probable cause”. Any Officer(s) conducting a search without probable cause is subject to disciplinary action. We do though have authority under the “Vehicle (or automobile) Exception” rule, which is lawful, and has been deemed Constitutionally lawful and not an infringement on a Citizens 4th Amendment Right.

    Once a month I am assigned patrol of a section of I-40 (Henderson County, TN) which is a known corridor for drug transporting. In the past four years, on my shift, under the “Vehicle (or automobile) Exception rule”, we have confiscated both a ton of drugs and countless weapons that would have ended up on the streets.

    We MUST have “probable cause” to conduct the search if a vehicle is stopped for a traffic violation. This probable cause can not be just a gut feeling, or a guess. There has to be some evidence that leads us to probable cause. That can be a BOLO, evidence such as the odor of cannabis, a visible drug paraphernalia item, suspicious or abnormal behavior of the occupants of the vehicle, or past drug or weapons arrests that we uncover when check during our radio (dispatch) check.

    As a note, not all drug and weapons runners look like the sini...

    To answer the question.. no Law Enforcement Officer has the authority to (Warrantless) search your vehicle without “probable cause”. Any Officer(s) conducting a search without probable cause is subject to disciplinary action. We do though have authority under the “Vehicle (or automobile) Exception” rule, which is lawful, and has been deemed Constitutionally lawful and not an infringement on a Citizens 4th Amendment Right.

    Once a month I am assigned patrol of a section of I-40 (Henderson County, TN) which is a known corridor for drug transporting. In the past four years, on my shift, under the “Vehicle (or automobile) Exception rule”, we have confiscated both a ton of drugs and countless weapons that would have ended up on the streets.

    We MUST have “probable cause” to conduct the search if a vehicle is stopped for a traffic violation. This probable cause can not be just a gut feeling, or a guess. There has to be some evidence that leads us to probable cause. That can be a BOLO, evidence such as the odor of cannabis, a visible drug paraphernalia item, suspicious or abnormal behavior of the occupants of the vehicle, or past drug or weapons arrests that we uncover when check during our radio (dispatch) check.

    As a note, not all drug and weapons runners look like the sinister criminals you see on those phony TV cop series. I've arrested young men who could pass for the local HS football hero, young ladies who look like the girl next door, men and women who look like they are on their way home from the office, and elderly men and women who could pass as the typical loving grandparents.

    For the record, I (nor anyone in our Department) has searched a vehicle without probable cause, and 100% of the vehicles we did search have turned up drugs and weapons that if not confiscated could very well have ended up in the possession of the Children and Grand Children of those apposed to our practice.
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