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Will cutting back on teen Pap tests result in more STDs?

jt 2009/11/30 13:48:34
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(Health.com) -- Teen girls can skip Pap tests, according to new guidelines that say women should start cervical cancer screening at age 21. But some experts are concerned that rates of sexually transmitted diseases or unplanned pregnancies could increase without the Pap test to prompt a doctor's visit.

As it stands, as many as one in four U.S. teenage girls has had an STD at some point in her life, often soon after she becomes sexually active, according to research published this week in Pediatrics.

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  • pygmygirl 2011/07/15 09:05:40
    pygmygirl
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    Why do women really have pap smears? It surely can’t be because actual cervical cancer is common, because it’s not. Why are we not constantly told to test for the common cancers like we are for cervical cancer? Do you know that doctors get paid very large incentives to herd as many of us as they can to get the smear? Do you know that women under 30 should not have pap smears? (Of course, women of any age who have odd symptoms should get themselves to a doctor straight away. I am not talking about NOT having procedures done, I am simply trying to point out how uncommon this cancer really is). Do you know the risks associated with smears because of the false positives and negatives? Do you know the risks associated with unneeded biopsies and other procedures? Have you ever wondered why smears are so aggressively forced upon us? Do you know how minute the incidence of cervical cancer actually is? Fewer than 1% of women benefit from pap tests (0.65%) according to American pathologist, Richard DeMay – 0.35% get false negatives and may be disadvantaged by testing and 99% derive no benefit at all.
    Try reading the Richard DeMay article and research by Angela Raffle. - 1000 women need regular screening for 35 years to save ONE woman from cervical cancer. (BMJ;2003)
    Do you k...




    Why do women really have pap smears? It surely can’t be because actual cervical cancer is common, because it’s not. Why are we not constantly told to test for the common cancers like we are for cervical cancer? Do you know that doctors get paid very large incentives to herd as many of us as they can to get the smear? Do you know that women under 30 should not have pap smears? (Of course, women of any age who have odd symptoms should get themselves to a doctor straight away. I am not talking about NOT having procedures done, I am simply trying to point out how uncommon this cancer really is). Do you know the risks associated with smears because of the false positives and negatives? Do you know the risks associated with unneeded biopsies and other procedures? Have you ever wondered why smears are so aggressively forced upon us? Do you know how minute the incidence of cervical cancer actually is? Fewer than 1% of women benefit from pap tests (0.65%) according to American pathologist, Richard DeMay – 0.35% get false negatives and may be disadvantaged by testing and 99% derive no benefit at all.
    Try reading the Richard DeMay article and research by Angela Raffle. - 1000 women need regular screening for 35 years to save ONE woman from cervical cancer. (BMJ;2003)
    Do you know it is against the law for your doctor to withhold birth control or other medication just because you don't want to have a smear? That is a reportable offence. Have you ever wondered why lung cancer, bowel cancer etc that are very, very common are not aggressively screened like pap smears? Why is that?

    Have you ever heard of lots of people getting actual cervical cancer? Not "pre cancer" or "abnormal cells" but cancer? If you have, I bet it's not many. How many people do you know, or know of, that have had bowel/breast/lung or other cancers? Did you know that the W.H.O actually recommends that women under 30 not be tested? Did you know that women who have had non cancer related hysterectomies do not need to be tested?
    If your doctor tries to force you to have a smear to get birth control or other medication, ask them these questions, then calmly state that you do not wish to have the smear, and ask if they are withholding your prescription because you don't want the smear. Tell them that you are going to report them. Your doctor will back off straight away, because the things I have just said are true.
    Start doing some research, go to reputable medical sites and you will be horrified to find out these things, I know I was, and still am.
    Have you noticed that men are not hounded/coerced/forced to have anal or penile examinations, yet penile and anal cancer are more common than cervical cancer. Doctors respect men’s wishes and treat them like adults. Read through a brochure aimed at men. It tells them all the risks, as well as all the benefits, of having invasive procedures. Doctors don't threaten to withhold medication from men if they choose not to have a procedure done. The doctor will just accept that a man can make up his own mind about what he does or does not want to have done, end of story. There’s none of the paternalistic “don’t be silly”, “how irresponsible”, “do you want to get cancer” malarkey to men if they decide not to have a voluntary screening test. It's about time doctors started treating us like adult women and not vaginas on legs, or little children that don’t know what’s best for ourselves. We need to wake up and start to stand up for our rights.
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  • pygmygirl 2011/07/15 09:05:40
    pygmygirl
    +3
    Why do women really have pap smears? It surely can’t be because actual cervical cancer is common, because it’s not. Why are we not constantly told to test for the common cancers like we are for cervical cancer? Do you know that doctors get paid very large incentives to herd as many of us as they can to get the smear? Do you know that women under 30 should not have pap smears? (Of course, women of any age who have odd symptoms should get themselves to a doctor straight away. I am not talking about NOT having procedures done, I am simply trying to point out how uncommon this cancer really is). Do you know the risks associated with smears because of the false positives and negatives? Do you know the risks associated with unneeded biopsies and other procedures? Have you ever wondered why smears are so aggressively forced upon us? Do you know how minute the incidence of cervical cancer actually is? Fewer than 1% of women benefit from pap tests (0.65%) according to American pathologist, Richard DeMay – 0.35% get false negatives and may be disadvantaged by testing and 99% derive no benefit at all.
    Try reading the Richard DeMay article and research by Angela Raffle. - 1000 women need regular screening for 35 years to save ONE woman from cervical cancer. (BMJ;2003)
    Do you k...




    Why do women really have pap smears? It surely can’t be because actual cervical cancer is common, because it’s not. Why are we not constantly told to test for the common cancers like we are for cervical cancer? Do you know that doctors get paid very large incentives to herd as many of us as they can to get the smear? Do you know that women under 30 should not have pap smears? (Of course, women of any age who have odd symptoms should get themselves to a doctor straight away. I am not talking about NOT having procedures done, I am simply trying to point out how uncommon this cancer really is). Do you know the risks associated with smears because of the false positives and negatives? Do you know the risks associated with unneeded biopsies and other procedures? Have you ever wondered why smears are so aggressively forced upon us? Do you know how minute the incidence of cervical cancer actually is? Fewer than 1% of women benefit from pap tests (0.65%) according to American pathologist, Richard DeMay – 0.35% get false negatives and may be disadvantaged by testing and 99% derive no benefit at all.
    Try reading the Richard DeMay article and research by Angela Raffle. - 1000 women need regular screening for 35 years to save ONE woman from cervical cancer. (BMJ;2003)
    Do you know it is against the law for your doctor to withhold birth control or other medication just because you don't want to have a smear? That is a reportable offence. Have you ever wondered why lung cancer, bowel cancer etc that are very, very common are not aggressively screened like pap smears? Why is that?

    Have you ever heard of lots of people getting actual cervical cancer? Not "pre cancer" or "abnormal cells" but cancer? If you have, I bet it's not many. How many people do you know, or know of, that have had bowel/breast/lung or other cancers? Did you know that the W.H.O actually recommends that women under 30 not be tested? Did you know that women who have had non cancer related hysterectomies do not need to be tested?
    If your doctor tries to force you to have a smear to get birth control or other medication, ask them these questions, then calmly state that you do not wish to have the smear, and ask if they are withholding your prescription because you don't want the smear. Tell them that you are going to report them. Your doctor will back off straight away, because the things I have just said are true.
    Start doing some research, go to reputable medical sites and you will be horrified to find out these things, I know I was, and still am.
    Have you noticed that men are not hounded/coerced/forced to have anal or penile examinations, yet penile and anal cancer are more common than cervical cancer. Doctors respect men’s wishes and treat them like adults. Read through a brochure aimed at men. It tells them all the risks, as well as all the benefits, of having invasive procedures. Doctors don't threaten to withhold medication from men if they choose not to have a procedure done. The doctor will just accept that a man can make up his own mind about what he does or does not want to have done, end of story. There’s none of the paternalistic “don’t be silly”, “how irresponsible”, “do you want to get cancer” malarkey to men if they decide not to have a voluntary screening test. It's about time doctors started treating us like adult women and not vaginas on legs, or little children that don’t know what’s best for ourselves. We need to wake up and start to stand up for our rights.
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  • NeeSox 2009/12/06 18:25:08
    NeeSox
    well you know i'm not sure...but i'd rather not be forced to get a Pap smear. i want to say no because, well, there are no current cures for STDs, right? so let's say you find evidence or signs of an STD forming during a Pap test. what can you do other than treat it? however i suppose the answer could be yes because if a girl is discovered to have STDs then she could be told and should therefore refrain from anymore sex. but you can't really force anyone to stay abstinant.....
  • White Orchid 2009/12/01 06:37:04
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  • Fed Up in NC 2009/12/01 02:13:17
    Fed Up in NC
    +1
    If you are sexually active you should have a pap test. This will not keep teens from having sex. At that age "it can't happen to me." A pap will detect abnormal cells such as with HPV. The HPV vaccine is not going to prevent all forms of HPV and HPV increases the risk of cervical cancer.
  • Chrissy592 2009/11/30 23:46:07
    Chrissy592
    +1
    I believe we could see an increase in the number of transmitted diseases where the transforer didn't realize she was infected due to the decrease in pap smear testing. I don't believe we will see an increase in STD's but I expect to see an increase in their occurence. I think girls should start getting pap smears when they anticipate becoming sexually active. This is just smart because it has been proven that certain STD's can cause cancer, such as HPV. Be smart girls get your Pap tests done and get STD checked often if you are sexually active.
  • SuperCee 2009/11/30 16:13:35
    SuperCee
    +1
    Cutting back on teen pap tests will further increase STDs. The purpose of the Pap test is to catch things beforehand. I will not be listening to the "recommendations" of these doctors!
  • Kiss my Bean 2009/11/30 15:01:17
    Kiss my Bean
    I was told to have my daughters see the doctor for a pap smear when they become sexually active, and that is what I plan to do. If you let someone have sex with you, you shouldn't be so shy that you can't have a doctor make sure he didn't give you an STD.
  • Maria 2009/11/30 14:44:11
    Maria

    Don't you think it time for boys and girls go separated and able to education better do you think? will work? will be less STD just theory how to make this work?
  • Friday 2009/11/30 14:38:11
    Friday
    +2
    This stuff is just CRAP! Get some responsibility and take care of yourself! Is AIDS an issue? Are STD's prevalent? Are you screwing anything that walks? GET TESTED AND CHANGE YOUR LIFE STYLE FOOL! issue stds prevalent screwing walks tested change life style fool
  • third 2009/11/30 14:10:49
    third
    What dose this have to do with getting STDs?
  • kormster 2009/11/30 13:56:56
    kormster
    +1
    How does testing or not testing cause or limit STD's? Should I explain to you what the causes STD's are?
  • Lucy formerly of Finchley 2009/11/30 13:55:47
    Lucy formerly of Finchley
    +3
    Probably, but the government's just getting into the practice of "cutting back" on things so that when socialized medicine takes over, we won't be marching down the streets of Washington with torches and pitchforks. The government has also recently set down new guidelines for mammograms; instead of suggesting women start getting them every year at 40, it is now "suggested" that mammograms starting at 50, and given every other year, should be sufficient--this despite the protests of oncologists who have said that the very sort of breast cancer forty-year-olds can contract is usually the most aggressive. And get this: The new government guidelines are also discouraging breast *self-checking,* in order to cut down on visits from "nervous" women who feel something abnormal in one of their breasts.

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