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Why is it muslims can pray 5 times a day anywhere but it is against the law for Christians to pray at ballgames, at work, school etc??????

den 2012/06/10 01:06:56
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maybe because we do not terror bomb people for disagreeing with us
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  • ehrhornp 2012/06/10 01:15:38
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    Since when is it against the law for Christians to pray at ballgames, work, school, etc? I mean if Christians were to follow Jesus wouldn't they go into a closet to pray? But no one stopped me when I said a silent prayer prior to an exam when I was in school or when I silently prayed for a home run at a baseball game.

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  • Magyar 2012/10/09 07:23:56
    the polititions and judges are bribed by the muslims
    Magyar
  • infinityorzero 2012/06/12 07:57:12 (edited)
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    It is absolutely NOT against the law for Christians, or anyone else, to pray. Thanks to the 1st Amendment: Congress shall make no law...prohibiting the free exercise (of religion).

    It is also true that the government, in any of its forms, can not make you pray a certain way,, Christian, Muslim, or otherwise. Also thanks to the 1st Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

    We all can pray however we want to. And no one can get the government to make their kind of prayer the official way.
  • DFA 2012/06/11 03:48:43
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    Are you confusing silent personal prayer with organized prayer?
  • Phil 2012/06/10 20:59:10
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    The fact is (with which few will agree), that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world now, surpassing the previous record numbers of Christianity by a landslide. It will eventually replace Christianity in the hearts and minds of many who will convert for the sake of 72 virgins, and whatever other various promises that are made.

    Of course, some believe that the God of the Christian Bible and the god of the Koran are one in the same, and this is now a well voiced opinion by the recent converts to many of the members of either religion. However, the God (of Abraham) and Allah are not the same, and anyone who was to compare the two thru their teachings would find the stark differences between the two.

    Christians have allowed other religions to surpass them in number here in the US, and now, any voting here will not be swayed by a majority of Christians as it was in the past. Therefore, our laws here will be changed so that the Muslim will have even more of their privileges allowed, until Sheria Law is enabled and the US becomes a Muslim nation. Anyone with 'foresight' instead of 'hindsight' can see this happening before our eyes right now. Stranger things HAVE happened.
  • boots Phil 2012/06/10 21:06:27
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    +1
    Muslims and Christians need a good ole holy war and wipe each other out so the rest of us can live in peace.
    Keep it down up there
  • Willie 2012/06/10 20:58:43
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    Willie
    Another moronic, bigoted, "poor, persecuted me" question.

    You are free to pray wherever and whenever you want. There is no restriction against a Christian athlete or fan praying at a ball game. There is no restriction against a Christian student praying before a test or before lunch in a public school. And there is not restriction against a Christian worker kneeling down in his or her office and praying, or spending his or her entire day on an assembly line praising Jesus.

    The restriction is simply on using public property or public funds for public prayer, and especially for compulsory prayer. In your examples, a coach cannot compel his players to pray, a teacher cannot lead a class in prayer, and an employer cannot insist that workers participate in prayer as a condition of employment.

    When I worked in management in a large manufacturing facility, groups of Christian workers often sat together and prayed before their lunch. Muslims took their prayer mats to the lawn outside during their breaks to say their prayers. In my current job as a teacher (in a public school), I often see students obviously engaged in prayer before beginning an assignment or test. Who they are praying to is none of anyone's concern, least of all mine, but since the majority of my students are Mexican or of Mexican descent, I would guess they are Christians. There is no rule against this.
  • den Willie 2012/06/11 10:29:42
    den
    christians have been fined for praying in Jesus name and blocked from praying together at school evcents all overe yopu are not up on the news on this- at the same time muslims can slap their rug down and pray anywhere any tiome- chaplins are forbidden to pray in Jesus name but muslim chgaplin s can pray to allah etc-check it out
  • Willie den 2012/06/11 13:36:13
    Willie
    Show me the cases. Show the evidence. You're making this stuff up.
  • boots 2012/06/10 20:32:44
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    No one said you can't pray where ever you want loser.
    You just can't force the rest of us to pray with you.
    Pray all freaking day if you want NO ONE CARES!!!!
    Man I hate you whinny Christians so much more then the crazy Muslims.
    Your all just a bunch of cry babies.
  • Phil boots 2012/06/10 21:42:42
    Phil
    I am of the Christian belief, and I agree that there are a lot of 'crybabies', even among us, who just can't let anything pass them up without complaining. However, when preferential treatment is given to one group over another (as in special showers installed for a certain group or special allowance for prayer times, etc., just to appease their religious beliefs), then it crosses the line into bigotry against other groups, Christian as well as others. Why shouldn't the Buddhists have their OWN shower room and be allowed special prayer time? Why shouldn't the Atheists have their OWN shower room and be allowed special, well, maybe reading time? And so on for other religions and groups? By the time all of the 'special considerations' are made, the taxpayers will have billions of their tax dollars spent and the Country will be even further in the hole than it is, just to appease religious and non-religious groups who want what will accommodate their beliefs.

    And, even though 'Organized' prayer has been taken out of schools and school events for Christians, at least NO other religions are afforded the privilege. But if and when there is prejudice against Christians in allowing other groups special considerations, that is when even the most understanding, most timid Christian will stand up and voice their malcontent.
  • den Phil 2012/06/11 10:32:10
    den
    musl9ms have the righr to pray in school their 5 times a day and christians do not- get the point
  • den boots 2012/06/11 10:30:49
    den
    since prayer comes from the heart you can force people to say words which is not done but no one can be forced to pray in truth
  • Jazzy 2012/06/10 18:31:17
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    "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

    I think this sums everything perfectly.
  • bob h. 2012/06/10 14:54:42
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    You have your own Political Party. that's not enough?
  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/10 13:38:31 (edited)
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    Christians can pray quietly to themselves whenever they want.
  • Zuggi 2012/06/10 12:39:34
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    It's just as legal for a Christian to pray as for a Muslim. The only difference is whether or not the school or other government institution endorses and/or leads the prayer.
  • Heptarch 2012/06/10 07:07:14
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    No one is preventing you from praying on your own, just as Muslims do. You just don't have the right to make others do it, too.
  • den Heptarch 2012/06/11 10:33:35
    den
    the judges have blocked all school prayers and it has nothing to do with making others do it
  • Heptarch den 2012/06/11 16:38:44
    Heptarch
    School prayer is public, not private.
  • Kevin 2012/06/10 06:36:28
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    No one and nothing is preventing you from praying anywhere, but since you are a Christian it is probably best that you pray away from crowds considering the dictates of Jesus and all. By the way, are you paranoid or something, because this question is fraught with paranoia.
  • dvd 2012/06/10 06:15:53
  • Muskoka 2012/06/10 05:10:03
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    Because the bible states clearly that christians are not to pray in public


    Everyone will have to worship Jesus -- whether they want to or not. Philippians 2:10

    A Christian can not be accused of any wrongdoing. Romans 8:33

    Religious Zealots who push the public prayer thing really should read thier bible where it says not to pray in public

    IT actually Says DO NOT PRAY IN PUBLIC
    but do they Read the Bible NO

    Matthew 6:5
    "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

    Matthew 6:6
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you

    Matthew 6:7
    And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
  • Annie~P... Muskoka 2012/06/10 09:52:07
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
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    You have cherry picked and have twisted the meanings of those bible quotes. Get a study bible, oh thats right your atheist. How come atheists always think they know more about the bible than anyone else?
  • Chris- ... Annie~P... 2012/06/10 13:04:55
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    I don't think atheists believe that at all. (I certainly don't.)
    What I don't understand is how different people, all self-identified as Christians, can have such varied interpretations? I have asked this before and each person who replied had a different answer and all supplied proof they were correct in their interpretation.
    This is off topic so feel free to ignore me. I just ask whenever I get the chance because I'm curious. :-)
  • Muskoka Annie~P... 2012/06/10 20:26:06
    Muskoka
    +1
    Christians are the only cherry pickers I know of. Yetthey always accuse other when they point out the obvious to them when they are out of line.

    I have studied the bible and I was a christian for many years. So get off your self righteous pompous asss and read your own bible. The quotes are there for everyone to read.
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/06/10 03:14:47
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    Excellent question ! The PC radical left are intimidated by Muslims. They also identify with the Muslim outlook on Christians and Jews. Look no further than Obama.
  • Muskoka Annie~P... 2012/06/10 05:16:35
    Muskoka
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    Look to your own bible

    The bible clearly states that christians are to pray privately.



    IT actually Says DO NOT PRAY IN PUBLIC but do they Read the Bible NO

    Matthew 6:5
    "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

    Matthew 6:6
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you

    Matthew 6:7
    And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
  • Annie~P... Muskoka 2012/06/10 09:45:27
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    You need to get a good study bible. You can think concretely about a few cherry picked verses but you're missing the whole picture. That being said an atheist could use those same verses to claim that we should not have a prayer in school, at the beginnings of any ceremony, etc... Thats just BS.
  • Muskoka Annie~P... 2012/06/10 20:27:45
    Muskoka
    +1
    Religion is a personal experience, not a public one. Go to church is you aredetermined to believe in superstitions and magic. Please do not expect others to be exposed to that kind of idicy and ignornce.
  • den Muskoka 2012/06/11 10:36:10
    den
    the Christian experience is in the heart but must be shared publicly as commanded by Jesus- go into all the world and preach the gospel
  • Muskoka den 2012/06/20 02:49:10
    Muskoka
    IT actually Says DO NOT PRAY IN PUBLIC but do they Read the Bible NO

    Matthew 6:5
    "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

    Matthew 6:6
    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you

    Matthew 6:7
    And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
  • Maria 2012/06/10 03:13:54
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    see two different story there was packs of Muslims rugs on grass and pray none of security stop them..
    and see the students sang Memorial Told to Stop Singing National Anthem
    anyway here paste and read it's no wonder...
    John Brock: ‘Can we not pray openly or silently anywhere on public property?’
    Article Content:

    A number of Georgetown High School students were recently “caught” praying before classes at Georgetown High School.
    Although the prayer sessions have been going on for years, the before-school gatherings were ordered shutdown.
    They have since been sanctioned by school officials following a public outcry and an appeal by the students to be recognized as a school-sponsored “club.”
    The group has met for more than a decade without objection until an anonymous individual ratted them out and school officials called a halt to the praying. Shutting down the prayer sessions was instigated by an anonymous phone call. Additionally, a national group claiming to support separation of church and state raised a complaint against the student group's activities which sent school officials temporarily scurrying under their desks.
    Thirty years or more ago, hearts would have rejoiced that high school students were praying on school grounds or anywhere else for that matter. ...



















    muslims pray on Rug at washington DC

    see two different story there was packs of Muslims rugs on grass and pray none of security stop them..
    and see the students sang Memorial Told to Stop Singing National Anthem
    anyway here paste and read it's no wonder...
    John Brock: ‘Can we not pray openly or silently anywhere on public property?’
    Article Content:

    A number of Georgetown High School students were recently “caught” praying before classes at Georgetown High School.
    Although the prayer sessions have been going on for years, the before-school gatherings were ordered shutdown.
    They have since been sanctioned by school officials following a public outcry and an appeal by the students to be recognized as a school-sponsored “club.”
    The group has met for more than a decade without objection until an anonymous individual ratted them out and school officials called a halt to the praying. Shutting down the prayer sessions was instigated by an anonymous phone call. Additionally, a national group claiming to support separation of church and state raised a complaint against the student group's activities which sent school officials temporarily scurrying under their desks.
    Thirty years or more ago, hearts would have rejoiced that high school students were praying on school grounds or anywhere else for that matter. But not today.
    Our betters have determined that the constitution promises not freedom of religion but freedom FROM religion because (dare I say it) Muslims, Buddhist, atheists, etc. might be offended. But we bend over backwards to accommodate their demands — foot showers in public buildings, prayer rugs in some venues, prayer-time off for others, etc. Oh! How far we have travelled on the senseless journey toward Political Correctness.
    Keep in mind, the local student prayer group was meeting outside of school scheduling, but horror of horrors, they were praying in an unused school space with like-minded students and one devout adult lady was handing out printed material to those who asked. No one was required to be present but everyone was invited. It seems to me that if a group of folks anywhere, anytime wants to pray and they are not causing harm or inconvenience to others, then, it's nobody else's business. I can think of much more harmful activities before the school bell rings that these students could be engaged in, besides praying.
    Local students have been praying before school since 1999! But, school officials said they were unaware of the practice. Where were our administrative officials and what were they doing while a highly visible group of young people came together to pray for eleven years — undetected by those in charge? Makes you wonder what really sinister activities could be taking place without official awareness. And, what other matters our school administrators might be “unaware” of. On the other hand, perhaps local school officials simply turned a blind eye because they saw no real harm in praying until someone challenged the prayer practice. Let's hope that's the case.
    A local lady has reportedly been handing out Bible verses and invitations to the prayer sessions to students as they arrived on school grounds during the eleven-year history of the Georgetown High School Prayer Caper. She said she was granted permission by a former district superintendent to do so and has gone unquestioned for over 10 years. The school solons now say she is unable to provide written proof of the permission. Somehow, I am inclined to believe the words of a woman dedicated enough to voluntarily rise early in the morning to spread the Good News to our young folks. I do not doubt her motives or her belief that she was acting in good faith and with official sanction.
    Pray, tell me —what harm was done by this dedicated woman and the praying students? None that I can fathom. But, yet, they are vilified for not worshiping at the altar of Political Correctness.
    Perhaps all is well that ends well. School officials have recognized the group after several students applied for “official” status by asking for permission granted to other “clubs.” They will now be allowed to do exactly what they were doing before school hours on school property. Halleluiah! Sanity has prevailed.
    The only difference now is that the group must be led by a school district employee. And no “unauthorized” literature can be passed out among students on school property.
    It seems to me that the praying students, the individual who voluntarily took the initiative to aid the group, local ministers who have spoken to the group and the public would have been better served with a quiet conversation concerning how their activities could become legitimate. Instead, the people involved were publicly made to feel as if they were doing something outside of societal expectations. Some may have even been led to believe they were doing something wrong instead of praiseworthy. A little sensitivity could have averted these emotions.
    Need I point out that there is no mention in the U.S. Constitution about separation of church and state? The phrase is not mentioned. What is decreed is that all Americans have “freedom of religion” and it worked quite well until the onslaught of Political Correctness.
    School administrators have rectified an onerous situation and students are once again free to pray under prescribed circumstances. Fair enough. But who can really dictate that a group of students cannot gather on the sidewalk or inside an empty space to pray together. Why can't like-minded students join hands in the hall outside a classroom before an exam (or athletic event) and pray. Must we pray with a supervisor? Can we not pray openly or silently anywhere on public property? These and other questions of Freedom of Religion might someday be answered.
    I believe that grass-root Americans will come to our senses and demand that a country founded on Judeo/Christian principles and philosophy deserve to practice what we preached for more than 200 years before Political Correctness was decreed to be the “law” of the land.

    John Brock is a retired college professor and, newspaper editor/publisher, who lives in Georgetown County. He can be reached by mail at this newspaper, or my e-mail at brock@johnbrock.com

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    : 2/17/2010
    What gets me is when something tragic happens on the shool grounds, the first thing that will be said by the news reporter is (Lets Pray!)
    Louis H. Rubin
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  • den Maria 2012/06/11 10:37:11
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    be careful you will confuse the idiots with the facts-how dare you?
  • KingdomNow 2012/06/10 03:04:59
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    The Christians should spent less time turning the other cheek and begin pushing back for a change.

    The Left has been pushing Christians and morality out of American society for the past century and has succeeded because Christians have far too polite and civil. The Left do not believe in polite and civil discourse, do not believe in free speech, do not tolerate dissent.

    I am old enough to remember prayer in school. I wasn't a Christian and I was never offended when my friends prayed.
  • Muskoka KingdomNow 2012/06/10 05:11:13
    Muskoka
    +1
    I was offended and that was over 45 years ago.
  • Annie~P... Muskoka 2012/06/10 09:48:28 (edited)
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
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    Of course you were offended!! Your not a Christian, yet you are gonna spout off scripture that you know nothing about lol ? BTW, no wonder you have misinterpreted those bible verses up there. But since you brought it up and Muslims claim they serve the same God, whats up with them praying out in public sometimes blocking off whole streets? Oh and you never did answer the poll question.
  • Muskoka Annie~P... 2012/06/10 20:29:48
    Muskoka
    I was at the time. SO, your assumptions are hugely off base. Myfamily was very private about our religious beliefs and kept them o our selves.

    Islams and Christianity have the same roots. Do some research and EDUCATE your tiny mind.
  • den Muskoka 2012/06/11 10:39:04
    den
    once a christian you aare saved forever -read John 10 you thought you were a christian but were not born of God as they are sealed untp the day of redemption.b
  • Muskoka den 2012/06/20 02:50:24
    Muskoka
    When you start becoming a criminal as you have now become, no god will save you.
  • Metaldane 2012/06/10 02:49:38
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    It's not illegal hell I knew a kid in school that prayed all the time the only rime your not allowed to is during class for obvious reasons anyone who actually beleives you can't pray in school is a sheeple not a person because they obviously haven't checked and just beleive what people tell them

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