Why do the Religion zealots turn on you, when they are the ones that cant answer your questions concerning their religion??
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2012/08/06 15:44:36
If you question their religion and ask questions and ask for some sort of proof of what tthey are asserting as the truth, they cant give you an answer, so they resort to making you look like the bad guy.. I guess it embarrasses them to not being able to answere simple questions and they lash out like little children blame you for their lack of knowledge.. I get a chuckle out of them... Because they can offer no proof of their assertions they will block you. LMAO
The problem is that in asking for "proof," you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. You can't prove that you love your own mother, even though your love for your mother exists here on earth ... so it's a bit unreasonable to ask for proof of something that does not exist (at least not solely) here on earth.
"Proof" is for things that pertain to things like math and science. Religious faith is about believing, not proving.
The apostle Thomas didn't believe in Christ's resurrection without it being proven to him. Once the Risen Christ did physically reveal Himself to Thomas, he (Thomas) felt bad that he hadn't believed without seeing ... which Jesus said was really the better way.
If our belief in God has to be "proven," then it's not real belief. It's not real faith. It's not up to God to prove Himself to us -- He's already done that on the Cross! It's up to us to believe in Him of our own free will.
Proof would make things too easy. Don't things mean more to us when we accomplish them by our own efforts and work? And yes, faith takes effort and work.
If you believe in a god, that has a plan and predestined everything and you follow its will,, You have no free will, that is an illusion and an excuse people use because they cannot explain why this God permits evil to exist... When you give your self to a diety, yoiu give up your free will and do its bidding.. You let this Diety think for you....and you are no different that the others,,, How do you know this Jesus said anything> He left no writings,, only some dudes in a book say "And Jesus said XXX AND XXX, no writer of the bible Knew this Jesus... It was all written after the supposed death..
Paul says that he met the risen Jesus, just as Peter, James, the twelve and all the apostles had done, but he also makes it clear that he had only seen Jesus in the spirit.
Scholars say that the authors of the New Testament gospels quite clearly had not met Jesus. The authors of Matthew and Luke relied on Mark and the hypothetical 'Q' document for their knowledge of the life and message of Jesus, while the author of John appears to have relied on Luke and, to some extent, Mark. It is clear, in turn, that the author of Mark was unfamiliar with Palestinian geography and local culture, and could never have met Jesus.
The Epistles of...
If you believe in a god, that has a plan and predestined everything and you follow its will,, You have no free will, that is an illusion and an excuse people use because they cannot explain why this God permits evil to exist... When you give your self to a diety, yoiu give up your free will and do its bidding.. You let this Diety think for you....and you are no different that the others,,, How do you know this Jesus said anything> He left no writings,, only some dudes in a book say "And Jesus said XXX AND XXX, no writer of the bible Knew this Jesus... It was all written after the supposed death..
Paul says that he met the risen Jesus, just as Peter, James, the twelve and all the apostles had done, but he also makes it clear that he had only seen Jesus in the spirit.
Scholars say that the authors of the New Testament gospels quite clearly had not met Jesus. The authors of Matthew and Luke relied on Mark and the hypothetical 'Q' document for their knowledge of the life and message of Jesus, while the author of John appears to have relied on Luke and, to some extent, Mark. It is clear, in turn, that the author of Mark was unfamiliar with Palestinian geography and local culture, and could never have met Jesus.
The Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude are clearly pseudonymous and were written by church leaders who had no personal acquaintance with Jesus or his disciples.
This is why I say people that say "I know the bible" Well! they dont have a clue....
They take it blindly, why do you think the bible refers to people as Flocks, or Sheep!??
And there are a million things in the world that are true even though they can't be proven. So, your claim that "proof is what makes the world's people operate" is oversimplistic.
For instance, you may love your mother ... but you can't prove it. And I wouldn't ask you to.
A lot of things in life don't fit into your neat little "proof" box.
Do you know the bible??? If you think you do I will give you the scripture that says so,,,
Predestination:
Luke 4:43)
Psalms 139:16
'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I haw appointed you a prophet to the nations." (Jeremiah 1:5). There are several things here that are wonderful and awe-inspiring as we reflect on what this verse says about the omniscience of God. God tells Jeremiah that He "knew" him before he was formed within the womb. He already knew Jeremiah's strengths and weaknesses. He already knew that Jeremiah would possess what God wanted to use during this particularly trying time of Israel's history. And before Jeremiah was born, God had already set him aside for a special task which He would give him years later as a young adult.
What does this mean to us? After all, we are not prophets like Jeremiah. No, but we are human beings created in God's image like Jeremiah. God knew each of us; what our strengths and weaknesses; abilities and limitation would be.
Predestination,,, very simple...Of course you and other will try to weasel out of this by saying that isnt what it means.... LMAO
Good Luck
Does a person have to be a christian to base their life on?? does one need to be a christian to understand love and humanism? if they do then their character is lacking something...
2.... What color was Adam? If you believe the bible story??
Other Bible characters, such as Adam and Eve, the Prodigal Son, the Good Samaritan are, of course, fictional and never had an actual existence; but they express states of mind too, and always in a remarkably simple and graphic manner.
The same stories of different
Gods, and their creation were around way before the bible....
here is a tough question.,, How did the animals get their spots and stripes,, in the bible, and would you believe the story??
I believe they have their spots for camouflaging themselves.
How about the color of Adam???
On to another question... How did Judas die?? and which is the real story?
According to some stories in the bible what Is Gods Name?
Where does this god Live?
Typical christian rhetoric to always bring hate into a conversation when they cannot come up with a rational answer.
You see you dont know anything like you think you do about the bible,, embarrasing isnt it???
All the questions I ask the answer is in the bible... either you know it or you dont....
The color of adam is not in the bible...
I know how Judas was killed...yet seems you have a different story than the bible....right?.....
"I AM" is what I read his name to be in the bible....
Your conspiracy stories are not in the bible.....
Gods name is Jealous...Exodus:
You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God
How animals got their spots and stripes...
Genesis 30:37-39
English Standard Version (ESV)
37 Then Jacob took fresh sticks of poplar and almond and plane trees, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the sticks. 38 He set the sticks that he had peeled in front of the flocks in the troughs, that is, the watering places, where the flocks came to drink. And since they bred when they came to drink, 39 the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted. In other words when the animals saw the stripes and spots their offspring inherited the vision.. lmao
We are all familiar with the name "Adam" as found in the book of Genesis, but what does it really mean? Let us begin by looking at its roots. This word/name is a child root derived from the parent דם meaning, "blood". By placing the letter א in front of the parent root, the child rootאדם is formed and is related in meaning to דם (blood).
By examing a ...
Gods name is Jealous...Exodus:
You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God
How animals got their spots and stripes...
Genesis 30:37-39
English Standard Version (ESV)
37 Then Jacob took fresh sticks of poplar and almond and plane trees, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the sticks. 38 He set the sticks that he had peeled in front of the flocks in the troughs, that is, the watering places, where the flocks came to drink. And since they bred when they came to drink, 39 the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted. In other words when the animals saw the stripes and spots their offspring inherited the vision.. lmao
We are all familiar with the name "Adam" as found in the book of Genesis, but what does it really mean? Let us begin by looking at its roots. This word/name is a child root derived from the parent דם meaning, "blood". By placing the letter א in front of the parent root, the child rootאדם is formed and is related in meaning to דם (blood).
By examing a few other words derived from the child root אדם we can see a common meaning in them all. The Hebrew word אדמה (adamah) is the feminine form of אדם meaning "ground" (see Genesis 2:7). The word/name אדום (Edom) means "red". Each of these words have the common meaning of "red". Dam is the "red" blood, adamah is the "red" ground, edom is the color "red" and adam is the "red" man. There is one other connection between "adam" and "adamah" as seen in Genesis 2:7 which states that "the adam" was formed out of the "adamah". (the red dirt)
In the ancient Hebrew world, a person’s name was not simply an identifier but descriptive of one's character. As Adam was formed out of the ground, his name identifies his origins.
How Judas died, or why animals have spots and the color of adam is NOT important..... the message is.
How about the stripes and spots.... how is that important to the message of Jesus?
You love the OT, the "story" and "law" of Jews, yet it was the REASON Jesus came....to spread a new message.
Yet... you don't even say Jesus is real.... you are not a scholar, you are BUNK!
Typical of your kind,, to try to blame your ignorance on me... I feel sorry for you...
Tell me how Adams color is important to Jesus message ?
How about the stripes and spots.... how is that important to the message of Jesus?
I guess we can throw every thing in the bible out except for the message of Jesus.. LMAO...
The entire subject was YOU COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BIBLE.. I never mentioned Jesus,, you did. and you have yet to answer one question... I would be wasteing my time explaing the relevance of my questions on you...
But here goes,, If one story in the bible is questionable then the rest will be questionable... the bible is either true or a lie... It has been proven to be a lie....