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Why do some people make arguments against something as useful as recycling?

Zachary Smith 2012/06/28 19:57:09




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  • ג'סיקה Ihre führer 2012/06/29 16:40:35
    ג'סיקה Ihre führer
    +1
    People love to argue for no reason, happens to me a lot. >.>
  • Zachary... ג'סיקה ... 2012/06/30 05:47:50
    Zachary Smith
    +1
    That's for sure >:-)
  • EdVenture 2012/06/29 03:02:57
    EdVenture
    +1
    I guess because they're lazy or they don't understand the benefits of it.
  • Georgia50 2012/06/28 22:41:39
    Georgia50
    +1
    Because in so many cases the pollution generated by trucks carrying recyclables all over the place negates any possible ecological advantage from recycling.
  • Zachary... Georgia50 2012/06/28 23:20:04 (edited)
    Zachary Smith
    The same could be said of garbage trucks, and that stuff goes straight into the disorganized landfill.

    The recycling industry generates jobs and does a neater job of waste management. Different effort, with different results.
  • Georgia50 Zachary... 2012/06/28 23:21:37
    Georgia50
    +1
    Garbage trucks are the given. Recylcing trucks are the optional.
  • EdVenture Georgia50 2012/06/29 02:54:38
    EdVenture
    +2
    I think the benefit goes beyond the truck polution. Less refining is required and more of the produced resources are re-used in some cases producing revenues used to assist more responsible and environmentally sound land fill operations. It also reduces the vast volumes and acumulation of irreversable waste.
  • Georgia50 EdVenture 2012/06/30 02:47:30 (edited)
    Georgia50
    +1
    The problem is that natural resources are initially processed near where they are harvested or extracted, not where their end use products are consumed. So recyclables have to be transported back to that point--where manufacturing started. If distance were not an issue, recycling would make perfect sense for many materials.

    For certain products such as discarded automotive glass, remanufacturing is not an option because of the cost to delaminate the layers that compose automotive glass.

    Anyway...the thread asks why people make arguments against recycling. I provided a response to that answer.
  • EdVenture Georgia50 2012/06/30 16:34:00
    EdVenture
    +1
    Your comment makes sense thanks, sorry for drifting.
  • Kaimeso 2012/06/28 21:20:28
    Kaimeso
    +1
    When we lived in Florida the entire county received a grant to start a household recycle program. Trucks were purchased, bins delivered and most everyone did their recycle thing. Separated the paper, glass, metal and put it out every week.

    After a few years of this one of the local news stations got a tip and went to the county landfill. Sure enough, there were all those expensive recycle trucks with separate bins for paper, glass, and metal dumping it with the rest of the garbage trucks.

    When the officials were asked WTF? They responded the dump was closer than the recycle center and fuel prices made it a losing situation. But of course, they didn't stop driving to every home in the area and paying 2-3 people per truck.

    So might be of some interest to find out what happens to all the recycle that is picked up in your city, especially if you can look at the accounting records to see if it costs more than it saves.
  • Zachary... Kaimeso 2012/06/28 22:21:29 (edited)
    Zachary Smith
    +1
    All I am saying is that I have to pay for the garbage tags but not for the recyclables.

    It is cheaper for me as an individual to recycle, and that has been something I have appreciated for a while.

    I did business with the people who do the recycling in my town a while back. I believe it actually happens. They located themselves right.
  • Defcon 2012/06/28 20:17:01
    Defcon
    +1
    My job is very non environmental: running a steel mill
  • Defcon Defcon 2012/06/28 20:18:03
    Defcon
    And many environmentalist get on you over industrial jobs that make metal and have smoke stacks
  • Zachary... Defcon 2012/06/28 20:30:29 (edited)
    Zachary Smith
    Do you use any recycled steel? This thread is about "recycling" not environmentalism.
  • Defcon Zachary... 2012/06/29 02:05:23
    Defcon
    We use fresh steel from iron ore and carbon
  • Zachary... Defcon 2012/06/29 02:09:33 (edited)
    Zachary Smith
    OMG! O.o
  • Sister Jean 2012/06/28 20:11:10
    Sister Jean
    +1
    some live to argue
  • Kashee 2012/06/28 20:10:13
    Kashee
    +2
    some people need to argue, must feel good to them.
  • Zachary Smith 2012/06/28 20:08:15 (edited)
    Zachary Smith
    +1
    I bought a bottle of seltzer water last night and the guy behind the counter started telling me how much the 5 cent deposit sucks.

    I said, I did not mind too much and that I actually save a lot of money by recycling since most of my trash is recyclable.

    He got ticked off and started telling me why recycling does not work and how we are headed towards the nightmare of Japan style recycling. Conversation over ....

    Little idiotic discussions like this happen all the time. People have chips on their shoulder on trivial matters which are no concern of theirs.
  • EdVenture Zachary... 2012/06/29 03:00:20
    EdVenture
    +1
    The bottle deposit bill pays 40% (at least in MA), to the merchant cashing in the returns. Not a shabby return.
  • Curmudgeon 2012/06/28 20:03:16
    Curmudgeon
    +2
    Some people are just stupid, where I am we have a huge recycling program and a few cities north of me actually use the methane from the dumps to power almost the entire dump.
  • Zachary... Curmudgeon 2012/06/28 20:09:45
    Zachary Smith
    +2
    Pretty interesting about the methane and that dump.

    All I know is that most of my trash is recyclable and it saves me a lot of cash to recycle it.
  • Silent Bob 2012/06/28 19:57:37
    Silent Bob
    +2
    They have nothing better to do!

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