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Why do christians act like islam is evil but christianity has done evil to?

FUS RO DAH! 2011/06/16 15:51:40

The evils of both christianity and islam are cause more by political conflict than religious conflict.

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  • Viper Two Six 2011/06/16 16:10:52 (edited)
    Viper Two Six
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    Well gee lets see, I don't see christians cutting off peoples heads or killing their women due to their convictions and laws like Islam, so it sure would seem that christians to me have way more of a level head than some evil Muslims do.

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  • 8mariedawn6 2011/06/17 00:33:34
    8mariedawn6
    No Christian do not go around killing people because they do not belive the way they belive.Actually Christians let allot of things go because we are supposed to be humble and forgiving and loving so if some one dose not do that blame the man or women not Jesus because Jesus says to love one anouther.
  • METALheadMom 2011/06/16 20:59:23
    METALheadMom
    One is still evil, while the other one figured out it was time to stop being that way.
  • teachaman 2011/06/16 20:34:17
    teachaman
    Mohammadans are a decrepit, perverse society of knuckle-draggers that jsut so happen to have a religion called Islam ... just because these ape-men belong to the Muslim faith does not make the Muslim faith itself evil - it's the troglodyte subhuman Mohammadan beast men that are inherently, culturally evil ...
  • wolf sloan 2011/06/16 18:45:01
    wolf sloan
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    I agree that both have committed atrocities. But 2 wrongs don't make a right.
  • scbluesman13 2011/06/16 17:04:29 (edited)
    scbluesman13
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    The evils of both religions are caused by a desire for religious domination. Political struggle is just a smokescreen. The West commonly labels certain movements or factions as "political" rather than religious because we have this arrogance about assuming any other religion isn't valid if it is not judeo-christian. And the same can be said about Islamic extremist groups who view christianity or judaism as corrupting the values of the West.
  • FIGJAM 2011/06/16 17:00:40
  • Viper Two Six 2011/06/16 16:10:52 (edited)
    Viper Two Six
    +3
    Well gee lets see, I don't see christians cutting off peoples heads or killing their women due to their convictions and laws like Islam, so it sure would seem that christians to me have way more of a level head than some evil Muslims do.
  • FUS RO ... Viper T... 2011/06/16 16:19:07
    FUS RO DAH!
    +3
    One word Inquisition
  • caroline Viper T... 2011/06/16 19:55:10
    caroline
    In Africa and some parts of Eastern Europe Christians are torturing and killing children as young as 4 yrs old for being witches and this is happening NOW.
  • Viper T... caroline 2011/06/16 19:58:24
    Viper Two Six
    Got a link?
  • caroline Viper T... 2011/06/17 06:59:32
    caroline
    got hundreds of them add on the fact that i'm a member of a group involved in trying to stop this but i've got to get the kids to school in a minute ,however i think Stephen further down the page has a couple of links and Save the Children is also actively involved in this.
  • John® 2011/06/16 16:06:14
    John®
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    The Catholic church has long ago ceased to do their evil deeds which were against Christian believe. Pope John Paul II even apologized for many of them. The evil is the foundation of Islam, as one can read in the Koran.
  • The Gov-Here to help BN362 2011/06/16 16:03:22
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    +1
    Because radical Islam is still murdering people.
  • caroline The Gov... 2011/06/16 19:56:24
    caroline
    +1
    So is radical Christianity,their just a bit more discreet about it.
  • The Gov... caroline 2011/06/17 02:42:25
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    +1
    Hmmmm. I researched it.. You're apparently right.
  • ©TransAmTam~Metal Queen \m/ 2011/06/16 15:58:16
  • Linkums 2011/06/16 15:52:05
    Linkums
    +2
    Because Islam still does evil now.
  • FUS RO ... Linkums 2011/06/16 15:53:47
    FUS RO DAH!
    +1
    so is christianity
  • DFM302 FUS RO ... 2011/06/16 16:07:31
    DFM302
    Be more specific.
  • Stephen DFM302 2011/06/16 16:28:20
    Stephen
    +2
    2010 in Nigeria - Muslims were targeted and killed by Christians in the middle of religious conflict in Jos, a city about 19 miles north of Kuru Karama. The bodies of 121 people, including 22 children, had been recovered, most of the homes in the town were burned down, along with three mosques.

    We go back to Nigeria for the next example - Christian pastors have accused over 15,000 children in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade of being witches. Out of those 15,000, 1,000 have been murdered through "exorcisms".
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor...

    The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his Christian religious beliefs

    Hutaree was a Christian militia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group, nine of its members were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy to use improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. They're also related to a plan to murder a police officer and attack other police officers at the funeral using I...
    2010 in Nigeria - Muslims were targeted and killed by Christians in the middle of religious conflict in Jos, a city about 19 miles north of Kuru Karama. The bodies of 121 people, including 22 children, had been recovered, most of the homes in the town were burned down, along with three mosques.

    We go back to Nigeria for the next example - Christian pastors have accused over 15,000 children in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade of being witches. Out of those 15,000, 1,000 have been murdered through "exorcisms".
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor...

    The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his Christian religious beliefs

    Hutaree was a Christian militia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group, nine of its members were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy to use improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. They're also related to a plan to murder a police officer and attack other police officers at the funeral using IEDs, as well as plans to attack muslims.
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  • ©TransA... Stephen 2011/06/16 16:51:18
  • DFM302 ©TransA... 2011/06/16 17:27:00
    DFM302
    +1
    These are people calling themselves Christians.
  • DFM302 Stephen 2011/06/16 17:26:07
    DFM302
    +1
    Christianity itself doesn't teach that. People calling themselves Christians did those things. Big difference.
  • Stephen DFM302 2011/06/16 18:59:11
    Stephen
    +1
    "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" - Exodus 22:18

    "Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death." - Deuteronomy 17:2 - 5

    "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." - Luke 19:27

    Now don't get me wrong, of course I understand that this isn't the 'real' Christian belief, but any religious text - whether it's the Bible, the Torah or the Qu'ran - is open to whatever someone wants to interpret it as. The people who did the above are, in my opinion, exactly the same as the radical side of Islam that commits similar atrocities.

    There are numerous quotes in the Qu'ran that preach peace and preach against violence:
    "The taking of one innocent life is like taking all of Mankind... and the saving of one life is like saving all of Mankind" - Qur'an 5:33.

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    "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" - Exodus 22:18

    "Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death." - Deuteronomy 17:2 - 5

    "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." - Luke 19:27

    Now don't get me wrong, of course I understand that this isn't the 'real' Christian belief, but any religious text - whether it's the Bible, the Torah or the Qu'ran - is open to whatever someone wants to interpret it as. The people who did the above are, in my opinion, exactly the same as the radical side of Islam that commits similar atrocities.

    There are numerous quotes in the Qu'ran that preach peace and preach against violence:
    "The taking of one innocent life is like taking all of Mankind... and the saving of one life is like saving all of Mankind" - Qur'an 5:33.

    There are also quotes stating that women and men should always be regarded as equal.
    "I shall not lose sight of the labor of any of you who labors in My way, be it man or woman; each of you is equal to the other." (3:195)
    (I can provide more quotes if necessary)

    However, just as some radical or fundamentalist "Christians" interpret or misinterpret the Bible in a way that actually goes against the real teachings of Christianity, some radical or fundamentalist Muslims also misinterpret the teachings of the Qur'an to promote their own radical views. It's the same with any religion.

    My point being it's irrational to condemn an entire religion - Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc. - (especially as people seem so keen to demonise Islam although you can make demonising claims on any religion) for the actions of the fundamental/radical/extremist sects of that religion.
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  • DFM302 Stephen 2011/06/16 19:53:49
    DFM302
    You hit it right on the head when you say it is open to whatever interpretation someone has of it. Verse in Luke you mention does not speak of Christ literally killing people. When someone looks at it from a secular viewpoint, I can see where they get that interpretation. However, when view from a spiritual standpoint it is referring to a time when judgment will come and the fate that awaits those considered enemies of Christ. It's the last verse in a parable that teaches that those to whom God gave gifts needful for doing His work, He expect much in return.

    Same thing applies to the verse from Exodus 22:18. It doesn't mean that people should kill witches although in history some have taken it that way. It talks about things God finds detestable. You have to look to Deuteronomy 18: 11 - 12 which talks about how God condemns witchcraft and the casting of spells. It's a figurative death not a literal one. What God expect is for his followers to "kill" those types of things from being able to flourish by not doing them.

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