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Why do certain "people" who never even read the bible think they know what they're talking about when you discuss religion?

666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1 2012/06/27 20:10:26
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  • the-great-debate 2012/07/19 20:14:40
    the-great-debate
    +1
    Either they don't know what they're talking about, or they are discussing religion in order to learn more about it. However, some people who are not necessarily all that religious HAVE, in fact, read and studied the Bible just as much as many Christians. This is something that some traditional Christians might not quite understand.
  • thetruth 2012/07/11 06:46:00
    thetruth
    +1
    Good question. Something that could be said for those who believe and for those who don't.
  • Missing Links 2012/06/30 01:58:15
    Missing Links
    +2
    To know religion and to know the Bible, are two different things.
  • 666_Mag... Missing... 2012/06/30 02:03:12
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    You don't say? T_T
  • LunarRain 2012/06/28 09:31:41
    LunarRain
    +1
    If you learn the main veiws of religions i don't think you have to read all the religious books to know what you're talking about as long as the conversations not to much in depth.
  • Pikku13 2012/06/28 05:47:13 (edited)
    Pikku13
    +1
    Religion cant be that hard right? You know it goes like this, "DA BITCH BE A WITCH." Burns the woman.

    "DA COUNTRY BE BAD" Goes to war.

    So on and so forth.

    Actually, no seriously, I think most people dont read the bible because they cant get through the entire thing without falling asleep, getting offended, or burning it because of their own religious belief. I have never got the chance to read it, but I dont think I would be able to read all of it even if I tried.
    The reason they still talk about it? Because religion and the bible are one of those things that will find their way into a conversation no matter how hard you try to keep it out. SOMEBODY is doomed to bring it up.
  • METALheadMom 2012/06/27 22:47:05
    METALheadMom
    +1
    Good question. I've read several religious texts, including the bible. I suppose you've actually read the entire bible yourself?
  • 666_Mag... METALhe... 2012/06/27 22:48:29
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +1
    Actually yes. -_- hence why I'm not a Christian.
  • Muskoka 666_Mag... 2012/06/28 02:02:53
    Muskoka
    +1
    Great answer
  • DFA 2012/06/27 22:33:04
    DFA
    +2
    Because they believe everything they hear in church, temple, mosque... what have you.
  • 666_Mag... DFA 2012/06/27 22:34:42
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +1
    Yeah, I read it. That's why I'm not a Christian. -.-
  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/11 06:47:41
    thetruth
    Oh really now ... do tell what made you "not" a Christian by reading the Bible.
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/11 06:54:46
  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/12 06:30:02
    thetruth
    How inspiring! .. and you tell your reasons so intelligently. That's Ok, I knew you didn't really read it anyways, just another hateful person begging for a reason to talk bad about people you disagree with .. I was just going to call your bluff any how, soooooooooo .... just saving me some time, you just did for me .. lol ..
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/12 06:34:31 (edited)
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    You keep believing that. I have my reasons. I just don't pay attention to threads older than week. It just isn't worth it anymore.
  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/12 06:39:42
    thetruth
    Well, that's convenient. So let me get this straight, you make a public question available trashing someone's religion because you say you've read the Bible, but refuse to give the reason "why" because all of a sudden it's personal and older than a week? Pathetic answer dude, but keeping doing your thang ... hating people who are different and all.
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/12 06:41:00
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    Excuse me... Who are the people that believe in Ghosts impregnating women, man that can walk on water, talking snakes, talking donkeys, Mountains moving, A tree dieing because some dude cursed it..A dude takes 200 years to build a boat and then cram thousands upon thousands of animals and insects in it, Burning bushes that talk,, ETC ETC,,.................. LMAO
  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/12 06:52:21
    thetruth
    You crack me up! You talk all that smack about Ghosts, talking donkeys, and burning bushes like the Bible is crazy talk, but yet on your profile say besides being a "Satanist," which is someone you wouldn't have known about unless the Bible said so, yet ironically believe that part of the Bible .. lol .. but also say, "Acknowledge the power of magic" ... you see my dilemma with you right? I mean it's hard to take you seriously after about a minute on your profile.

    But don't worry, I'm taking notice:

    ===Notice==== Please don't take me seriously, if you do, well, you're an idiot.

    LOL!

    Bub-bye ...
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/12 06:54:30
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    I'm a LaVeyan Satanist. We don't believe in god or Satan, we are Autodeists. Read what I wrote below.
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/12 06:50:10
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    1. Archaeology doesn't support events in the Bible or its timeline, like Jericho or the census.
    2. Jesus doesn't appear in historical records for a suspiciously long time, until a mere two generic entries from Josephus.
    3. Other religions made the same claims earlier, like Great Floods and Virgin Birth. The Trinity is a corruption of the pagan Maiden, Mother, and Crone, and Christmas and Easter correspond to their holidays around the vernal equinox and winter solstice.
    4. If you take the Bible literally, you can't. If you take it seriously, you don't because you don't own slaves and beat your children.
    5. Circumstantial evidence for a Creator doesn't point to the Christian deity specifically.
    6. Thousands of Christian denominations can't even agree on what's true.
    7. It's easy to see how the Bible has been corrupted over the years. Did your Sunday School teacher tell you about the Council of Nicea? All the books of the Bible went through a committee vote, and some like the Book of Jubilees (which went into detail about Genesis incest) were tossed out. Why believe what was left?
    8. Most mainstream Christian denominations follow the words of Paul, even those in contradiction to Jesus.
    9. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he ab...




    1. Archaeology doesn't support events in the Bible or its timeline, like Jericho or the census.
    2. Jesus doesn't appear in historical records for a suspiciously long time, until a mere two generic entries from Josephus.
    3. Other religions made the same claims earlier, like Great Floods and Virgin Birth. The Trinity is a corruption of the pagan Maiden, Mother, and Crone, and Christmas and Easter correspond to their holidays around the vernal equinox and winter solstice.
    4. If you take the Bible literally, you can't. If you take it seriously, you don't because you don't own slaves and beat your children.
    5. Circumstantial evidence for a Creator doesn't point to the Christian deity specifically.
    6. Thousands of Christian denominations can't even agree on what's true.
    7. It's easy to see how the Bible has been corrupted over the years. Did your Sunday School teacher tell you about the Council of Nicea? All the books of the Bible went through a committee vote, and some like the Book of Jubilees (which went into detail about Genesis incest) were tossed out. Why believe what was left?
    8. Most mainstream Christian denominations follow the words of Paul, even those in contradiction to Jesus.
    9. “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?”
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  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/12 06:54:01
    thetruth
    .. lol ..
  • 666_Mag... thetruth 2012/07/12 06:55:09
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    Awww truth hurts. :( can you prove me wrong? You can't.
  • thetruth 666_Mag... 2012/07/12 08:23:41
    thetruth
    These reasons are weak and desperate at best ... none of which point to anything you've specifically read in the Scriptures, I mean you did say it was because you read the Bible you decided not to be a Christian right? But, now it's "other" reasons .. lol .. Funny how now that you define "which kind" of Satanist you are, when the whole foundation for your own belief comes from the Bible, a twisted version of the Bible that is ... I don't care if Satan's just your symbol, or not, you can't talk about "nonhuman animals" and with a straight face claim the Bible is crazy talk and be taken seriously. I mean you're own religion says you are the god .. lol .. but somehow the Bible's just out there in la la land right? Alrighty then ... But, now, all you point to is things out side of the Bible for proof of what you say as if it is proof, and notice how many things you need answered in order to believe? You make it my point for me every time you reply. I mean Buddha's not in historical records, no more than Jesus anyways, no one has ever seen Odin eating on a nice piece of halibut, so why not blast them? Oooh, right, because you hate Christ and His followers the most. But I hardly doubt anything I say in response to any of your loaded questions will convince you otherwise, I mean you ...





    These reasons are weak and desperate at best ... none of which point to anything you've specifically read in the Scriptures, I mean you did say it was because you read the Bible you decided not to be a Christian right? But, now it's "other" reasons .. lol .. Funny how now that you define "which kind" of Satanist you are, when the whole foundation for your own belief comes from the Bible, a twisted version of the Bible that is ... I don't care if Satan's just your symbol, or not, you can't talk about "nonhuman animals" and with a straight face claim the Bible is crazy talk and be taken seriously. I mean you're own religion says you are the god .. lol .. but somehow the Bible's just out there in la la land right? Alrighty then ... But, now, all you point to is things out side of the Bible for proof of what you say as if it is proof, and notice how many things you need answered in order to believe? You make it my point for me every time you reply. I mean Buddha's not in historical records, no more than Jesus anyways, no one has ever seen Odin eating on a nice piece of halibut, so why not blast them? Oooh, right, because you hate Christ and His followers the most. But I hardly doubt anything I say in response to any of your loaded questions will convince you otherwise, I mean you don't want to believe and even event ways to not believe, all I was looking for is the "why and where" within the Bible, but the reason(s) you give contradict your own beliefs .. so it seems beating head against the computer screen with be more productive, and probably make more sense than debating something with you that's painfully obvious you don't want to honesty debate and wouldn't sink in. The point there is that your own belief's contradict the reason you so dislike Christianity, therefore talking with you would be pointless from the start. I mean you believe in magic right? Yet call a mountain moving unrealistic? Where's the conscious reality here? Your hocus pocus should be taken literally and seriously yet God is made up? Wow, Ok then ............ You deny reality in order to escape it, you hate the fact that there is a right way and a wrong way to live, so you and people like you event ways to live in order to legitimize the evil things you do, and when confronted with truth you turn spiteful, slanderous, and obtuse because conviction rules you at that point until you beat it away with lies in order to keep living the way you want, instead of the way you should.

    May the Lord Jesus, the Son of Almighty God, ruler and maker of Heaven and earth guide you back to Him. May Jesus Christ Himself rebuke you until you submit to His perfect Will. I just prayed for you, that God will save you. There's nothing I can do, only God can. And I know He heard me, so at this point it doesn't matter what you do or say, God is seeking you out, and at every turn He will be waiting for you to cry out, Jesus, forgive me!" Please consider the path you're on, and come back to your senses. I'm done speaking with you, but I urge you to read the Bible with an open mind, and open heart.

    I have been very sarcastic to you, and some what rude, I want to apologize for that, for whatever it's worth after the fact. I think I've been jaded by so many haters, that spit hate for hates sake that it comes out in a way that it shouldn't, so I'm sorry. And even though I believe you've never read the entire Bible, I can plainly see that whatever the reason is, you are far from Christ.

    God bless you, and good bye.
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  • Inquisitve Kat 2012/06/27 22:01:58
    Inquisitve Kat
    +2
    They think they can trust their priest/preacher/parents/whate...
  • Simeon~thegaymafia 2012/06/27 21:26:35
    Simeon~thegaymafia
    +1
    The Bible can be interpreted in practically any way a person wants, including completely contradictory interpretations. So sometimes maybe a person has read it, but they just interpret it completely different than you do.
  • Muskoka Simeon~... 2012/06/28 02:04:28
    Muskoka
    +1
    Some people actually think the bible is true as well.They have never done any investigation into the real truth either.
  • The Judge 2012/06/27 20:55:51
    The Judge
    +2
    Because that seems to be the cry from The religious. You never "read my book" the problem is many people have read it, they just do not agree with it. I went to Church for 20 years, studied it, taught it ext ext.
  • Sodahead Founders are Fascists 2012/06/27 20:51:13
    Sodahead Founders are Fascists
    +4
    Priests and preachers only read people the nice fluffy parts, and then the victims of course think that is all they need to know.
  • Muskoka Sodahea... 2012/06/28 02:05:10
    Muskoka
    +2
    Yup, they do not want christians to hear all the violence and horrific parts.
  • tblackb 2012/06/27 20:42:25
    tblackb
    +1
    its the american way. we are always voicing r opinions about things we know very little about.
  • cynsity 2012/06/27 20:38:00
    cynsity
    +1
    Probably becasue in truth the Bible has very little to do with "RELIGION". many "religions" use the text of the Bible to establish and justify their dogma, but I happen to know there is a story in the bible about a man so dedicated to his RELIGION that he was set to kill any who disagreed and on his way to do so God appeared to the man and said its not about religion its about faith and about your beliefe in me.
  • Carol 2012/06/27 20:33:45
    Carol
    +1
    I have a good idea, but who are these "certain" people? Just be specific. And you assume they haven't read the bible because they believe differently than you?
    I have an unpopular set of beliefs, but I've read the bible and know it better than many of the people who like to quote it to me while telling me my beliefs are wrong. (quotes most often used in the wrong context, or inaccurate)
  • 666_Mag... Carol 2012/06/27 20:35:10
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    I'm speaking about a certain idiot on here who even admitted he never read the bible.
  • Carol 666_Mag... 2012/06/27 20:37:28
    Carol
    Ah, I see.
  • kir 2012/06/27 20:26:36
    kir
    +1
    In my opinion, it's because the study of religion is shunned in school; people think that you have to be politically correct and not teach anything about varying religious practices; of course people aren't going to know a thing then about religion. Philosophy and theology are very important studies that should be handled even early on so that people have an idea as why they believe what they do.
  • 666_Mag... kir 2012/06/27 20:29:18
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +1
    Well religion shouldn't be taught in school because it would be biased and most likely with these idiots teach the kids about Christianity. I wouldn't want my kid have Christianity shoved down their throat. My point is if you're going to speak like you know something actually do your research. -_-
  • kir 666_Mag... 2012/06/27 20:33:35
    kir
    That's the mentality that keeps religious ignorance alive; it's completely possible to discuss religion in a school setting within a philosophy class.
  • 666_Mag... kir 2012/06/27 20:35:48
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    Religion should be taught by yourself. School is for education.
  • kir 666_Mag... 2012/06/27 20:39:42 (edited)
    kir
    Religion is part of history and philosophy; I think it's important to learn the historical aspects of religion as well as have a thoughtful philosophical discussion about religion. In fact, no thorough review of philosophy could be complete without discussions of questions such as: is there a divine; is there an intimate good; where did we come from; why do we exist.
  • 666_Mag... kir 2012/06/27 20:43:39

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