Why did education go liberal?

by stevmackey Posted 2012/07/15 22:07:29

Related Topics: Teacher, School, History, Education, Teachers, Period

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The knowledge of history keeps us form repeating the same mistakes. There are many things that are paramount to the use of of knowledge that we learned in school. Especially those of us that were educated in the period before 1970. We had teachers that thought it was important to use your own mind. They honored you for that. Why did this change?

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WGN 2012/07/15 23:41:54

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A Liberal education is one that exposes one to many points of view. The word liberal comes from "liberty" the ability to think for one's self. The USA was founded on very liberal ideals for the time. The conservative ideal was NOT to change, and not to declare our independence. We were founded on the "liberal" idea that "all men were created equal". The conservative ideal was that some men were created better than others and therefore were given the right to rule over others by the grace of God.
The modern definitions of the two political (but not semantic) words are:
Liberal= to think freely
Conservative=resistance to change

As a teacher for over 40 years, education changed when we were required to teach to the "test". It also allowed many teachers to become mini dictators and allow no discussion as to the validity of what was being taught as fact.

Read : "The banking concept of Education" by Paulo Freire
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Nimitz 2012/07/17 06:12:31

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Because education was taken over by liberals. :-)

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KingdomNow 2012/07/17 04:44:09

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Those can do; those who can't teach.

-George Bernard Shaw

Trade unionism was the death knell to quality production and service as unionism existed to preserve the jobs, benefits and pay solely for its members without any consideration for quality of outcome. When employees no longer have to compete everybody works with minimal effort.

If the teacher attended a university these places were already infested with people who could never work anywhere else. People unable to compete for jobs are naturally attracted to government fixes no matter what the ultimate consequences may be.

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Kat 2012/07/17 03:34:51

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The conservatives went to make money and let the mamby pamby liberals that weren't good with their hands or brains do the teaching. We need to take the schools back from them, public schools and colleges are liberal training camps.

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themadhare ~IJM 2012/07/17 03:32:12

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Systematic infiltration

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✞Knight of Honor 2012/07/16 08:19:41 (edited)

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Fortunately, I had a conservative education in the Public setting. Without the liberal garbage, it has consistently won the Blue Ribbon of Excellence.

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TheTruth1313 2012/07/16 06:54:50
Metaldane 2012/07/16 04:49:35

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Teachers (who are usually liberal) didn't change it that would be government which has done it for both parties so really if you want to change it end the corruption in our gov.

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Louisa - Enemy of the State 2012/07/16 02:01:33

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As I remember it, we came out of the 50's a little more risque than we went in. But the 60's was the start of in-your-face-liberalism. Free love and drugs.....(the 60's were the most filthy dirty period....I hated it!)

Throughout the 50's you were encouraged to think for yourself. Or at least, you were asked, "What do YOU think?" Toward the end of the 60's we were on the fast track to socialism, liberalism and every other ism you can come up with.

But the question asked, is WHY? That I don't know for sure. It could have had a lot to do with the aftermath of World War II. There was such a shift in attitudes after staying alive by the skin of your teeth. I have an idea but I don't know how to word it.........

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stevmackey to Louisa ... 2012/07/16 02:07:31

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I think I can answer my own question. After WWll The people that taught us had relatives or neighbors that were in the war. Later people became doubters that couldn't relate to it. the end result the disbelievers started teach what they believed, What do you think of that?

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Louisa ... to stevmackey 2012/07/16 02:52:29

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Sounds reasonable to me. I actually watched it happen........meaning I was completely aware of what was happening, but I didn't know how to project it into the future, if that makes sense.

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bob h. 2012/07/16 01:29:55

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It hasn't gone Liberal at all. Actually, I went to Catholic school for the 8 yrs, and there was never a word about the Bible or this Creationism drivel. There was Mass at 8 and the rest was school. Never the twain shall meet. Teachers had a strong union, as did most occupations, were well paid and well respected. The GI Bill paid for college, and the there was a 91% tax on those making over $250,000, I believe. And that was Republican. Then slowly but surely, the whole thing started slipping to the right, toward Fascism.

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Phoenix to bob h. 2012/07/16 01:45:43

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A little strong using the F-word Bob but well said.

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bob h. to Phoenix 2012/08/18 20:08:22

"Dictatorship is OK as long as I'm the Dictator"; George Bush

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stevmackey to bob h. 2012/07/16 01:57:16

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Thanks for your opinion. When I was little, my girl friend left public school for Catholic school. I was amazed that her textbooks were the same as mine but each had an extra section on religion.

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Louisa ... to stevmackey 2012/07/16 02:08:22

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I'm not doubting you at all. However, I had a different experience. I had a terrific education in Catholic school for 8 years. Most everyone else went to high school because it was expected of them. I went to college and I am NOT smart! I am totally average and in fact I have a problem understanding concepts. I need pictures or diagrams....... But my point is that my Catholic school education was superior to public education. Oh....maybe this is important. I'm talking about the 50's. ; }

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/07/16 18:53:24

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It sounds like Liberation Theology polluted your already small mind.

Facism/Nazism, like Communism are based on Karl Marx's theories and that means they are Leftist.
Marxism/Communism/Fascism/Nazism are all totalitarian in nature.

As soon as you can tell me how much better it was to be arrested and tortured by the KGB than the Gestapo, I might think you know what your are talking about. As soon as you can tell me how much luckier the 15 million Ukrainians, killed by Stalin during the winter of 1932-1933 were than the 13 million killed in Hitler's camps, again, I might think that you know what you are talking about.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/17 01:15:58

Don't you people have dictionaries? Same thing over and over; if you don't like it or know what it is, it must be Commie. Joe McCarthy lives.

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/17 01:35:40

We could be so lucky to have Joe McCarthy with us now; he was an American hero.

Two of the greatest evils of the 20th century came out of Marx's theories. So what is the problem.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/17 01:54:28

Yeah, another Republican drunk seeing boogeymen under every bed. How rare.

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/17 01:56:43

McCarthy rooted out plenty of Communists.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/18 01:10:14

Name 3.

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/18 03:15:57 (edited)

Mary Jane Keeney
Lauchlin Currie
Virginius Coe
William Ullman
Nathan Silvermaster
Harold Glasser
Allan Rosenberg
Cedric Belfrage
David Bohm
Charlie Chaplin
Aaron Copland
Dashiell Hammett
Lillian Hellman
Tsien Hsue-shen
Arthur Miller
Paul Robeson
Waldo Salt
Paul Sweezy
John Garfield
John Hubley
Edward Murrow
DOZENS MORE...

Edit: ENJOY

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/18 20:04:39

Are you crazy, seriously?

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/19 01:52:49

Nope:
Put McCarthy and Communist spies into a search engine.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/19 18:49:41

I put him into several. He never found a single commie. Accused countless, but not one was convicted. He was the model for Bush's "No-Fly" list. Not one terrorist, just people Bush disliked.

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/20 00:36:55

Since Stalin knew about the advances on the atomic bomb before FDR, I really find that hard to believe. Since FDR had a commie VP, I really find that hard to believe.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/20 21:29:43

Another commie? Wow.

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bob h. to Red Branch 2012/08/20 21:31:13

Virginius Coe....always a threat.

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Red Branch to bob h. 2012/08/21 02:33:37

Your hatred for the USA has blinded you to the truth.

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FortunaVeritas 2012/07/16 00:43:56

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There's nothing "liberal" about not teaching children to think for themselves or actively trying to prevent them from developing critical thinking skills. Well-funded schools with a challenging and engaging curriculum have always been a cornerstone of the ideal state that most Liberals would like us to move towards.

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Matt 2012/07/16 00:15:40

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The answer is here. It is very globalist, evil and alarming.
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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WGN 2012/07/15 23:41:54

None of the above

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A Liberal education is one that exposes one to many points of view. The word liberal comes from "liberty" the ability to think for one's self. The USA was founded on very liberal ideals for the time. The conservative ideal was NOT to change, and not to declare our independence. We were founded on the "liberal" idea that "all men were created equal". The conservative ideal was that some men were created better than others and therefore were given the right to rule over others by the grace of God.
The modern definitions of the two political (but not semantic) words are:
Liberal= to think freely
Conservative=resistance to change

As a teacher for over 40 years, education changed when we were required to teach to the "test". It also allowed many teachers to become mini dictators and allow no discussion as to the validity of what was being taught as fact.

Read : "The banking concept of Education" by Paulo Freire

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Matt to WGN 2012/07/16 00:18:59

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As evidenced by the grammar, spelling, and English usage evidenced on this website, I don't think that education has gone liberal. It has gone inferior. Most genuine liberals that I know are very articulate and literate.

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bob h. to Matt 2012/08/19 18:51:34

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Have you ever noticed that the Europeans here tend to speak excellent English?

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Matt to bob h. 2012/08/19 19:50:17

I heard a lot of pretty good English spoken in both Spain and Morocco. On the airplane back, I sat next to an Algerian diplomat whose English was excellent.

I was really amazed when I visited Barbados a few years ago. The poorest of the poor spoke better English than a lot of college graduates that I have known.

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bob h. to WGN 2012/08/17 01:19:13

Excellent.

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rand 2012/07/15 23:40:31

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In places where it failed to teach the science of evolution, it went conservative. More than half of adult Americans still don't accept this science. It really depends on where you check and even then on the topic referenced.

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Beccy 2012/07/15 23:21:56

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I wouldn't say they are liberal I think they want you to accept your lot in life

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DFA 2012/07/15 23:17:30

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I had both liberal and conservative professors in college.

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sockpuppet 2012/07/15 23:07:46

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They don't get paid much in Academia, so I think they've evolved an inflated sense of importance over the past few generations to compensate. Tragically, by expanding their mission into the inexplicably political, their core objectives (ie, the 'basics') have fallen by the wayside. They're telling 'em what to think, rather than teaching them how to find out for themselves.

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