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Why are the present day religious, who are supposed to be all about love, peace, patience & tolerance, so very much the opposite of this

acronombe2012 2012/06/14 19:20:56
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I've spoken hard truth & i've been nothing but nice when I said it. You christians, on the other hand are saying to drive everyone out of America that isn't christian. You don't even want to get your own hands bloody, you want to speak dissenting words & try to incite others to do your dirty work for you. You don't get to tell anyone what they HAVE to do or HAVE to believe. This is America, we natural born & naturalized U.S. Citizens can believe what we want or believe in nothing, if that's what we choose. We can say what we want, we can dress the way we want, we can wear our hair the way we want, etc., etc.. Go back & read the constitution in it's entirety. Pay particular attention to the 1st amendment. Slavery has been abolished also. Quit trying to manipulate people into doing your crap work for you. I thought christians were supposed to walk & talk love, peace, patience & tolerance? Christian's secret motto is to use emotional blackmail (love bombing), attrition (lay your hands on everything you survey & claim it as yours) & threats (harrass, persecute, oppress & even kill everyone who doesn't believe what you believe). I cite the inquisition, the crusades & the holocaust - you turned your back on the Jewish in their time of great need during WW2. It wasn't until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor that you got involved. And then how did you respond? You destroyed them with Fatman & Little Boy. So now i'm waiting for a response from you. Don't be nice now & then revert back to jerks later. Be the same yesterday, today & forever, in public AND in private. Because if your god IS real, he's watching everything you say & do to be used as evidence against you on judgement day. So hear I am, a giant ear, waiting for your words...of niceness.
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  • Mark 2012/06/18 21:25:06
    I have another idea...
    Mark
    Guess what ? They are NOT Christian !
  • acronom... Mark 2012/06/19 21:26:51
    acronombe2012
    Are you sure about that? We'll if they're not, they're telling the world that they are & it's giving any "true" christians (if there is such a thing) a black eye. What is truth? How do you know the bible is telling the truth? It's been rewritten so many times throughout history, how do you know it still has the original message? So the real answer is for these "true" christians to drive out the "false" ones from their religion. Otherwise, as it is said, "in the world of phenomena, appearances are truth", which means, they're making these "true" christians look bad by proxy - guilt by association. It's goes along the same idea that all of islam is bad just because of Al Qaeda. Do you mean Catholics aren't christian? Baptists aren't christian?\ Methodists? Agape? Lutheren? Presbyterian? 7th Day Adventists? Mormons? Jehovahs Witness? etc. & so on?. Anyone who worships Jehovah/Yahweh, Jesus/Yeshua, and/or holy spirit/holy ghost considers themselves christian. You better inform them that they're not, because they think they are!
  • Mark acronom... 2012/06/22 22:00:52
    Mark
    I can NOT see into their chest cavity , that is for "The Cardio-Knower" (Abba Father / Creator & Judge) to detect .

    It isn't too tough , to figure out who is , and who is NOT ???

    They either have the walk (1) , and produce fruit (2) , or they are NOT / cut and dry ...

    Your list had mainstream Christians "not members of a religion" mentioned , and (some of which recently linked up with those that apostitized = no longer Christian on a individual basis) ;
    Listed 2 religions (all of which are false) ;
    Those of a few Cults (& with Occult origins) ,...
    The word is YeHoVaH (YHVH) , and the 3rd person of The Trinity , is NOT a spook , so the word ghost is incorrect as well .

    Scripture has never been re-written , only interpreted incorrectly forming immitation versions ,... this is why the user word should always be translate , the NO : if , and or but meaning of ever verse .
  • acronom... Mark 2012/06/25 20:26:34
    acronombe2012
    Who told you that? Parts of the bible was rewritten in September 2001 & a whole lot of people got upset about it. But everyone got caught up in the whole 9/11 thing & it was forgotten. Forgotten by many, but not me! Organized religion rewrites the bible whenever they want something that they can't get any other way. They've been doing if for centuries & they usually do it right around some major event to hide their actions. They rewrite verses, change words, sometimes take out or add whole verses & even whole books. The book of Enoch was once in the bible & now it's not. It was removed so organized religion could gain power over the masses. In the book of Job, towards the end of the book, god asks job a long list of questions that no one seems to know the answer to. If you read the book of Enoch, you can find the answer to every one of these questions. For instance Mazzaroth. Job 38:32 - Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? What is Mazzaroth?

    http://scripturetext.com/job/...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://pillar-of-enoch.com/es...
    http://www.betemunah.org/maza...

    Deut 13:12-14, 17:2-4 Seducing people to worship other gods or the host of heaven (astrology) is an abomination to God.

    NEW POPE BENEDICT XVI: VATICAN CONTINUES TO OBSERVE OCCULT NUMERICS, TIME...






















    Who told you that? Parts of the bible was rewritten in September 2001 & a whole lot of people got upset about it. But everyone got caught up in the whole 9/11 thing & it was forgotten. Forgotten by many, but not me! Organized religion rewrites the bible whenever they want something that they can't get any other way. They've been doing if for centuries & they usually do it right around some major event to hide their actions. They rewrite verses, change words, sometimes take out or add whole verses & even whole books. The book of Enoch was once in the bible & now it's not. It was removed so organized religion could gain power over the masses. In the book of Job, towards the end of the book, god asks job a long list of questions that no one seems to know the answer to. If you read the book of Enoch, you can find the answer to every one of these questions. For instance Mazzaroth. Job 38:32 - Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? What is Mazzaroth?

    http://scripturetext.com/job/...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://pillar-of-enoch.com/es...
    http://www.betemunah.org/maza...

    Deut 13:12-14, 17:2-4 Seducing people to worship other gods or the host of heaven (astrology) is an abomination to God.

    NEW POPE BENEDICT XVI: VATICAN CONTINUES TO OBSERVE OCCULT NUMERICS, TIMES, ASTROLOGICAL CONSIDERATIONS
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/ne...

    ...the key word here is "continues"...

    THE VATICAN AND WELL ESTABLISHED CORPORATIONS EXPLOIT ASTROLOGY!
    http://www.drturi.com/vatican...

    If astrology is an "abomination", why does the Vatican have it's own astrology department?

    Sinai was the home of Jeal or Jehovah (for Jehovah said "Jealous is my name"),
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades...

    As for The God YHVH (Jehovah), he is from the ancient war God of Israel called "Yahveh". That is why there is a lot of killing and war in Old Testament, there is also Elohim which comes from ancient God El or El Shaddai. It is many Gods and they put into one God...
    http://answers.yahoo.com/ques...

    "An interesting bit of history reveals that Mr. J.P. Morgan, yes, THE Mr. Morgan, mega-financial tycoon, was quoted as saying, "Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do!"
    http://krishna109.newsvine.co...
    http://answers.yahoo.com/ques...

    Vatican says belief in UFOs and extraterrestrials is OK
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2...

    Centuries ago, they used to torture, imprison, put to death, exile, etc, anyone who dared to say that there was life on other planets. Now it's ok, huh? Didn't they have the holy spirit with them during the dark ages? Why didn't the holy spirit tell them way back then that there was life on other planets?
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  • Mark acronom... 2012/06/26 20:54:43
    Mark
    Now I understand what you mean by re-write .
    There was never a book of Enoch , plus the one supposed as an additional author was NOT the famous Enoch , but the one coming down from Cain' genealogy .
    Satan runs parallel with Truth (means Truth had to exist first) , for him to go along side it ,... and even in the names of people in Genesis , you'll see his attempt to confuse those that are in the Christ line (Jewish) with those that would be great grandchildren of Satan himself (Cain married a gentile woman from Nod , so NO offspring were Jewish & the genealogy is very short , because the story line
    (8 Adamic souls) is all about Jesus' family line - Luke 3:23 ) .

    Cain & Abel were twins of different fathers .
    Where we get the term "to raise Cain" from = to raise hell , hint , hint .
    1John 3:12 , of means progeny ;
    John 8:44 , Jesus is telling these Kenites (offspring of Cain , acting as though they were Jewish ) who their real father was Via. Cain "1st murderer" ;
    2Cor.11:1-3 = how Eve lost her virginity , with her 1st conception (Cain) in Gen.3:15 . Adam doesn't get to her till 4:1-2 - AGAIN means "to continue to do a thing" in Hebrew = she bore Cain and "continued in labor" and bore Abel , except from 2 different fathers .

    Plenty more Scripture concerning this special type of twins .

    little mark
  • PaulBot415 2012/06/14 23:48:22
    Is this just a scam to control people, gain power & seperate people from thei...
    PaulBot415
    its been probably thousands of years since most mainstream religions lost their original focus and intentions.
  • acronom... PaulBot415 2012/06/15 20:30:32
  • PaulBot415 acronom... 2012/06/16 01:01:46
    PaulBot415
    jeese who cares when, it happened, period.
  • acronom... PaulBot415 2012/06/16 16:16:12
    acronombe2012
    Moral Hazzard. If someone is allowed to get away with doing something wrong & not pay the price, what's to keep them from doing it over & over & over? That's exactly what's been happening in this situation. And here you are, trying to help sweep it under the carpet. Me thinks thou christians dost protest too much.
  • acronom... acronom... 2012/06/16 16:18:26
    acronombe2012
    The religious reek of dogmatism, prejudice & bigotry. I can smell it all the way across the internet! They spend all day pushing their beliefs & ideas onto others, They actually believe that they have all of the answers. I have a 127 IQ. I know the bible better than any preacher/priest, because, unlike most christians, I actually read it, studied it & researched it from cover to cover. Don't you find it amazing that people who aren't christian know so very much more than people who say they are christian? Their leaders tell them that they don't have what it takes to discern what the "word of god" says. The leaders tell the masses that only "they themselves" have a direct connection to the divine & they are the only ones qualified to interpret the meaning. This is exactly how they're able to get away with commiting pedophilia. Victims of gospel rip-offs rarely realize that they're victims. They usually stay devoted to their preacher no matter what & view all accusations against him/her as tricks of the devil. Brick by brick you're building your own hell. Beware the person who reads only one book. Beware the fundamentalists. They are dangerous. Nearly every christian proves themselves to be a hypocrite every single time they go to church. Matthew 6;5-6: Do not pray in public, for tha...&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    The religious reek of dogmatism, prejudice & bigotry. I can smell it all the way across the internet! They spend all day pushing their beliefs & ideas onto others, They actually believe that they have all of the answers. I have a 127 IQ. I know the bible better than any preacher/priest, because, unlike most christians, I actually read it, studied it & researched it from cover to cover. Don't you find it amazing that people who aren't christian know so very much more than people who say they are christian? Their leaders tell them that they don't have what it takes to discern what the "word of god" says. The leaders tell the masses that only "they themselves" have a direct connection to the divine & they are the only ones qualified to interpret the meaning. This is exactly how they're able to get away with commiting pedophilia. Victims of gospel rip-offs rarely realize that they're victims. They usually stay devoted to their preacher no matter what & view all accusations against him/her as tricks of the devil. Brick by brick you're building your own hell. Beware the person who reads only one book. Beware the fundamentalists. They are dangerous. Nearly every christian proves themselves to be a hypocrite every single time they go to church. Matthew 6;5-6: Do not pray in public, for that's what the hypocrites do - you have already been rewarded. Go home to your room or closet & pray in private & your god will reward you in public. You can go to church & worship your god. You can go to church & praise your god. You can go to church & gather together with other & talk about your daily walk with your god. What you can't do is go to church & pray in public to your god. No hypocrite will enter the gates of heaven. If you want to pray, go to a monastary. Be like the monks & seclude your selves from society, then you can pray all you want to your heart's content. Don't be led by another person in prayer. All you're doing is helping him/her achieve their goals (which is to control you & seperate you from your money), it does nothing for you. The religious love to violate people's rights. Get your butts to church, or you're gonna go to hell. Pay your tithes, or your gonna go to hell. Do what your preacher/priest tells you, or you're gonna go to hell. Those are terroristic threats. There are more gossipers in church than anywhere else (Romans 1:29b-32). They are haters, insolent, arrogant & boastful slanderers. They are senseless, faithless, heartless & ruthless busybodies. Although they know the righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Proverbs 20:19 - Gossips betray a confidence. The key word here is "betray". What does the bible say the punishment for betrayal is? To be sent to the deepest part of hell & be chewed like bubblegum in the mouth of Satan until the stars burn out! Divide + discourage + destroy + deceive = evil’s language. Consider the words of your mouth; it's wrong to use your tongue for gossip. Keep on walkin' preacher man, walk on by. There's nothing you have to say that has any business gettin' between my ears. I can think of much better ways to use my tongue. I know what my 9 basic human rights are - for instance, my right to have sex - all the sex I want & i'm a huge fan of cunninglingus - it turns me on just as much as he-ing & she-ing! I am 1 million% head-over-heels in love with women! But right now i'm single. I like being single, except for the part about not having a woman. If there are any women out there who are presently "unencumbered" by a man, my question - and offer - for you is, would you like to get "cumbered"? I know definitions to so very many words that most people have never heard of. Like the word "cupidity - inordinate lust & greed, especially for wealth or power. I know the constitution better than any politician. The amendments gets violated more often than anyone knows, because the U.S. people aren't in the know about what the constitution actually says & the people in power love to do things in secret & behind closed doors. I know the civil rights & the world human rights better than any lawyer. Slavery & child labor happens so very much on this planet & people's civil rights gets viloated all the time. That's why there's organizations like the ACLU & why they have so very much influence & power in the courts. No matter how much I study, research & learn, I realize I "know" nothing. No matter how much I learn, there's always more to learn. A person can never know enough.
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  • vannuck 2012/06/14 21:42:31 (edited)
    I have another idea...
    vannuck
    I myself am a Christan (Catholic to be exact) and even I'll admit their are several wack job Fundimetalist out there (Mostly in the US) and I don't like them giving Christians a bad name...but still let me remind you that not all of them are like that just like with anyother group Christans, Jews, Muslims...ect; They do have their fair share of Extremists.

    Saying all Christans use "emotional blackmail", threats, and look down their noses to those who are not "Saved" is like saying all blacks are Ganster Thugs from the Ghetto.
  • acronom... vannuck 2012/06/14 22:59:21
    acronombe2012
    You have a point. I've met a few & I mean just a few who are actually nice people. But the majority seems to want to just go with the flow, even if they know in their gut that it might be wrong. What really needs to happen is the people in the pews need to hold the people running the show accountable for their actions & attitudes, because the church in the whole is being held responsible for the actions of a few, who also happen to be in positions of authority & power. They hold sway over the masses & the flock just runs with whatever the preacher says without ever using their brains & common sense to check out if it's the right thing to say or do. However, I know i'm right about this, because I was in the various religious churches for nearly 30 years & I experienced these things 1st hand. They're out there & they're running the show. So, are you who say you're doing it right just gonna sit there & let these people get away with it? Because every time they do something wrong, it gives religianity/churchianity a black eye & anyone involved in that particular denomination will be judged as guilty by association, regardless of the denomination. This is why I got away from it all together. No matter which denomination I went to, There was the ones leading the pack who were not living thei...&&&
    You have a point. I've met a few & I mean just a few who are actually nice people. But the majority seems to want to just go with the flow, even if they know in their gut that it might be wrong. What really needs to happen is the people in the pews need to hold the people running the show accountable for their actions & attitudes, because the church in the whole is being held responsible for the actions of a few, who also happen to be in positions of authority & power. They hold sway over the masses & the flock just runs with whatever the preacher says without ever using their brains & common sense to check out if it's the right thing to say or do. However, I know i'm right about this, because I was in the various religious churches for nearly 30 years & I experienced these things 1st hand. They're out there & they're running the show. So, are you who say you're doing it right just gonna sit there & let these people get away with it? Because every time they do something wrong, it gives religianity/churchianity a black eye & anyone involved in that particular denomination will be judged as guilty by association, regardless of the denomination. This is why I got away from it all together. No matter which denomination I went to, There was the ones leading the pack who were not living their private life as they lived their public life - piously. If you don't do it 24/7/365, someone's gonna catch you doing the wrong thing at the right time. I know not all african americans are not bad. I have black friends, asian friends, mexican friends that are quality people. If they weren't, I wouldn't have anything to do with them. Race, color or nation of origin doesn't matter. It's who you are inside that counts in my book. I know some quality white people & I know some white people who are absolute trash. I keep my clique small & tight. You ahve to be honest & good to be my friend. Which belief system you belong to doesn't matter. And yes, emotional blackmail is a perfected weapon of the "holy righteous". Love bombing is a dangerous weapon. Look at all the scandals that have been in the news recently involving religianity/churchianity. The Vatican is in yet another scandal as recent as less than a month ago. in the world of phenomena appearances are truth
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  • Cuppajo 2012/06/14 19:39:31
    I have another idea...
    Cuppajo
    +2
    Ask the atheists who claim, "I don't care what anyone else believes" then spend hours upon hours jumping on Christians for things that happened 1000 years ago.

    And no, I don't wish to "debate this with you".
  • Kyra 2012/06/14 19:29:41
    I have another idea...
    Kyra
    +2
    I don't think they got past the Old Testament.

    1 John2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
  • ehrhornp 2012/06/14 19:28:41
    I have another idea...
    ehrhornp
    It is basically the fundamentalists of any religion who are out to control people and their behavior. Normal Christians, those who just try to follow the teachings of Jesus, have no problem with people believing or acting differently.

    Unfortunately no matter how religious a person can be, they can generally always be dragged by their leaders into war. The exceptions are the true christians, probably less than 10% of the population.
  • Vennie 2012/06/14 19:26:24
    I have another idea...
    Vennie
    Not all "religious" people are hateful, etc. However, when someone who professes to be a "good Christian" (or a "good Muslim", or a good whatever) spews bigotry and hatred and does cruel and hurtful activities, it calls attention to the contradiction between what they say they believe and their actions.
  • HarleyCharley 2012/06/14 19:25:13
    I have another idea...
    HarleyCharley
    some are good and some bad...
  • Sister Jean 2012/06/14 19:24:43
    I have another idea...
    Sister Jean
    the ones I know are not...they are Honest and Honesty can hurt..just same as truth hurts at times.

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