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Who's Less Moral, Men or Women?

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Women are still lagging behind men in at least one area ... rule-breaking. According to recent studies, men have lower moral standards than women, especially when they have to defend their manhood, Scientific American reports.
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Studies show that men are more likely than women to minimize the consequences of moral misconduct; to adopt ethically questionable tactics in strategic endeavors; and to engage in greater deceit, Scientific American reports. In other words, whether you're engaging in a business deal or choosing a life partner, you might be better off trusting a woman.

Guys are especially likely to be "immoral" in when success means proving their masculinity -- and yes, the workplace and the playing field both come to mind. But we have to wonder: Are guys more likely to engage in this sort of behavior because they're still more likely to be competing in these arenas than women? Or are men intrinsically more immoral? What do you think?
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  • Aingean J 2012/06/21 20:25:58
    Aingean
    If people went just off their experience with people maybe she is right. Isn't better to judge only from experience then from guessing at it?
  • nightowl 2012/06/21 04:43:10 (edited)
    Men
    nightowl
    +3
    Men obviously...just look at the number of male convicts vs female convicts.



    But I'm guessing most people are reading the word "moral" here and giving it a sexual connotation. I'm here to tell you that women are NO different than men in that area...they're just much more careful. They have to be because our jacked up society is so much more judgmental (unfairly) of women than it is of men. I'm not trying to put women down here either...I'm just saying that women are not the pictures of chastity and nest-building that our society expects them to be.

    Edit: Hmmmm...after thinking about it for a minute. I think I'd like to say that men are more aggressive than women which may cause us to cross the line more often and get busted for it. But it's probably true to say that the female gender has just as much potential for immorality as the male gender.
  • M. Aronson nightowl 2012/06/21 06:08:42
    M. Aronson
    +2
    I agree with most of what you said except for your last sentence. I think that because women usually wind up being the caregivers for the young and the very old, they are more likely to NOT want to see rules broken; they want a predictable, safe society.
  • J nightowl 2012/06/21 19:33:01
    J
    +1
    Law breakers are immoral, but there is much more to immorality than breaking mans law. Women are the world's biggest liars. And will even lie about their own transgressions more often then men. Men aren't as sneaky as women.
  • nightowl J 2012/06/22 05:56:04
    nightowl
    C'mon man don't hate on the ladies. Everybody lies...we men just as much as women.
  • JAA nightowl 2012/06/23 04:46:47
    JAA
    +2
    He's right, though, women tend to be sneakier about their lies & often do it to keep from getting in trouble by the male species. Men will usually lie to puff themselves up. Both are immoral. Women also tend to have advanced skills at gossiping & maligning; although gay men are by far better at it. All in all, men & women are pretty much equal where it comes to immoral behavior.
  • J nightowl 2012/06/25 16:39:47
    J
    I am not a man. I am female - with 6 sisters and 3 brothers. Direct lines into who is really the most "moral."
  • nightowl J 2012/09/18 00:49:14
    nightowl
    Maybe it's just your naughty family then...hmmm? ; ) Just kiddin....
  • J nightowl 2012/09/18 18:33:11
    J
    Most women are - they just try to pretend they aren't.
  • gonzalo 2012/06/21 04:19:20
    Men
    gonzalo
    +2
    That was easy. I'm a man, and everyday media and the internet only voice the wrong that MAN does (at least in america anyways) women can do very stupid things, and all the time, but we still out number them in stupidity. As a man it makes me sad.
  • JAA gonzalo 2012/06/23 04:48:45
    JAA
    I think you're being too hard on men, at least in comparison to women. I think women are more gullible & easily deceived than men, & men have a weakness in bitterness; however, they tend to both be just as immoral, only in different areas.
  • gonzalo JAA 2012/07/08 19:14:42
    gonzalo
    So you're saying if you randomly select 100 women in the world today, most would agree that if they were "DECEIVED" and if they could and would "if learned from prior mistakes" go back in time and agree that they did wrong and would never do it again, just because they were "DECEIVED" by yet again, a man?
  • JAA gonzalo 2012/07/08 19:28:36
    JAA
    No, I didn't say anything of the kind. Please read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. Thanks.
  • gonzalo JAA 2012/07/29 13:28:56
    gonzalo
    Not verbatim.
  • JAA gonzalo 2012/08/01 04:44:54
    JAA
    Not anything.
  • gonzalo JAA 2012/08/19 12:32:40 (edited)
    gonzalo
    Ok....Touché.....you win! Do you at least agree?
    Or in denial?
  • gonzalo gonzalo 2012/08/19 12:33:48
    gonzalo
    Nevertheless, were all guilty
  • gonzalo gonzalo 2012/09/26 03:27:53
    gonzalo
    Ok....what am i thinking about now?
  • Susan Vaughan 2012/06/21 03:45:13
    Men
    Susan Vaughan
    a lot of men still have the attitude that rules are meant to be broken. and I agree about the lower morals, it is as if they feel like they have the right to disobey rules in common courtesies
  • Sam 2012/06/21 03:14:52
    Men
    Sam
    +2
    MOST men are less moral than women, there are some great guys out there, though. But guys seem to be alot less moral than women from what I have seen over the years, maybe because women actually take time to think before making a move and men just let their testosterone and nerves get the best of the about 99.9 percent of the time.
  • JAA Sam 2012/06/23 04:53:05 (edited)
    JAA
    I can't believe you're serious about your comment. Women are no less "immoral" than men; they just have different areas of concentration with their immorality. Women are much better at gossiping, maligning, and lying than men; whereas, men are much more likely to violence & sexual immorality. They both are quite good at jealousy, having sex outside of marriage, implacability, deception, undercutting their fellow employees, breaking speeding & other traffic laws, to name a handful.
  • Osaka 2012/06/21 03:09:48
    Men
    Osaka
    Well men are seemingly are the ones to talk their girlfriends' into sex because there are a lot guys that think, if they have not had sex yet. There is something wrong with their dating relationship.
    Though when I remember the original desperate house wife. Potiphar's wife from Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors. Woman are guilty too. Especially if they married because of money, looks and fame. Or they have not had any attention, sexual or otherwise. Though relying on just sex is not formula for a successful relationship.
  • opa62 2012/06/21 02:48:36
    Women
    opa62
    +2
    My experience has been that women break far more rules, but because they are smaller rules, it is not as noticeable. Therefore, it is basically a dead heat if you weight the severity of the infraction, imo.
  • Boss 2012/06/21 02:42:53
    Women
    Boss
    hard to say..takes 2 to tango....
  • Nika 2012/06/21 01:56:10
    Men
    Nika
    +1
    Men are more obviously immoral because women are better at hiding it.
  • M. Aronson Nika 2012/06/21 06:13:40
    M. Aronson
    +1
    That's a pretty nasty thing to say. Women are less likely to attack someone physically, to commit murder, to rob a bank or a store, to carjack someone, to abuse an animal, to commit rape or other sexual crimes (yeah, I know there's a lot of that in the news lately, but it's still way more men who do it.) If women are truly "better at hiding it," it's because their infractions are much milder than what men do.
  • Nika M. Aronson 2012/06/21 15:00:27
    Nika
    That was kind of a joke. Yes men are way more likely to commit violent crimes. In fact it's reasonable to refer to an unknown serial killer as "he" because the amount of women serial killers are negligible compared to the amount of men. Serial killers often fall under sexual deviants as well but I'm not sure if these count as lack of more as much as brain dysfunction/psychological issues that men seem to develop more frequently.
  • JAA Nika 2012/06/23 04:55:39
    JAA
    +1
    I think you were right in your first comment.
  • Dave 007 M. Aronson 2012/06/23 15:27:55
    Dave 007
    Lady, go watch the movies on "Lifetime" and see how bad you all are.
  • Garciataria 2012/06/21 00:19:08
    Men
    Garciataria
    +2
    ... coming from a man. I think women are more well behaved, organized, and they know what they want better than men do. Plus, women are much more mature (and it's probably why I can make friends with women more easily).
  • JAA Garciat... 2012/06/23 05:00:55 (edited)
    JAA
    I truly must laugh at the "women are much more mature", & that's probably why I cannot make friends with women more easily. They lie, cheat, exaggerate, gossip, malign, & will turn on another woman in a heartbeat if it is in their best interest or if they've been "scorned". Women tend to be bitchier, less easy to please, deceptive, coy, and maneaters.

    Men, on the other hand, tend to have more problems with sexual immorality (pedophilia, homosexuality, adultery, & being promiscuous). They also have a tendency toward bitterness, anger, greed & power.

    Women are catching up with men in the sexual immorality, but they are well behind them in violent crimes & pedophilia. So, I pretty much consider it a draw between men & women, making us all very "human".
  • Garciat... JAA 2012/06/24 21:22:09
    Garciataria
    +1
    I should have said towards me, women are much more mature. Even as a kid I've had a much easier time getting along with women.
  • ♥dreamer-leigh♥ 2012/06/20 23:47:21
    Men
    ♥dreamer-leigh♥
    Definately men...they are in alot of case non trustworthy because of it
  • jathtech 2012/06/20 23:32:46
    Women
    jathtech
    +3
    to be honest, both sides are generally equally immoral. However, I've seen women be much more ignorant to the fact that no one is perfect, and much more judgmental than any guy.
  • Leigh-Anne 2012/06/20 23:13:05
    Men
    Leigh-Anne
    +3
    im sorry but there is no argument. 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in her lifetime (a statistic i can personally vouch for), the same statistic can not only not be said for men, but men who are raped will also most likely be raped by other men. Most sex offenders and pedophiles are men. Most violent crimes are perpetrated by men. More men are willing to leave their families for selfish reasons. Far more men are charged for animal cruelty than women (how someone treats animals says a lot). And of course lets not forget the massive and horrific sex slave industry forcing thousands, perhaps millions of women and girls into sexual slavery, which could not be possible without all the men running and kidnapping for the organizations, as well as their giant loyal customer base made up of MILLIONS of men worldwide. If the answer to this question isnt obvious, i dont know the meaning of the word.
  • jathtech Leigh-Anne 2012/06/20 23:35:48
    jathtech
    3 in 4 men will be raped in their lifetime by women.... Just not sexually. Their work, their kids, their live will be taken away by greedy evil conniving women. I'm dreadfully sorry to hear about your terrible experience, but just the idea that women are more moral than men is part of the reason they are not. They are much more judgmental and many are more greedy.
  • Empathic Leigh-Anne 2012/06/21 10:13:47
    Empathic
    Leigh-Anne: Sorry if you have had a bad experience. However, it doesn't make you able to 'vouch for' a claimed population statistic. The '1 in 4' statistic was never credible and like most feminist claims seems to be elevated to ever increasing levels of falsehood. Some studies have claimed 1 in 4 women were 'sexually abused' but I don't think there has ever been one that claimed 1 in 4 women are raped. The studies claiming such high levels of sexual abuse are always based on unreliable self-reports in questionnaires or 'semi-structured' interviews designed to manipulate and extract the answers the 'advocacy' researchers are looking for. No effort is ever made to measure the validity of the self-reports. 'Sexual abuse' is defined so widely in these studies that it will include many completely normal, consenting and benign events. Perhaps if one defines as 'sexual abuse' every teenage boy's tentative kiss or grope that immediately stopped at any sign of nonacceptance by his date, every sexual comment or activity by boys that girls may have found uncomfortable and every effort by a married partner to initiate sex when the wife was not feeling like it, then maybe 1 in 4 women is sexually abused.

    So-called sex trafficking is another big propaganda beat up. It may happen i...



    Leigh-Anne: Sorry if you have had a bad experience. However, it doesn't make you able to 'vouch for' a claimed population statistic. The '1 in 4' statistic was never credible and like most feminist claims seems to be elevated to ever increasing levels of falsehood. Some studies have claimed 1 in 4 women were 'sexually abused' but I don't think there has ever been one that claimed 1 in 4 women are raped. The studies claiming such high levels of sexual abuse are always based on unreliable self-reports in questionnaires or 'semi-structured' interviews designed to manipulate and extract the answers the 'advocacy' researchers are looking for. No effort is ever made to measure the validity of the self-reports. 'Sexual abuse' is defined so widely in these studies that it will include many completely normal, consenting and benign events. Perhaps if one defines as 'sexual abuse' every teenage boy's tentative kiss or grope that immediately stopped at any sign of nonacceptance by his date, every sexual comment or activity by boys that girls may have found uncomfortable and every effort by a married partner to initiate sex when the wife was not feeling like it, then maybe 1 in 4 women is sexually abused.

    So-called sex trafficking is another big propaganda beat up. It may happen in some countries but it's mainly claimed in western countries by prostitutes caught working without work permits, few investigations ever supporting the claims. Also, UN research shows that the trafficking and financial enslavement of men for their labour is a much bigger issue.

    Men will always commit more sexual crimes than women because of biological factors (but that's not to diminish offenders' responsibility for their behaviour). Morality isn't just about sex and violence. Western women initiate about 80% of relationship break-ups, failing to honour their marital vows in search of more personal happiness, thereby depriving their children of the security and identity of their biological family unit . Women mostly think it's ok that the partner they ditched after using him to make children is then enslaved by the state to continue to pay for her upkeep through so-called 'child support' that is often much more than children need cost to run. Women will often see themselves as entitled to plunder their ex-partners' assets earned well before ever meeting them, but when women have more wealth than a prospective partner they are more likely to demand a strong prenuptual agreement to ensure a separating partner gets nothing of theirs. Women often steal from their employers, shoplift and commit fraud offences. Women often use false allegations in family courts to increase their chances of getting what they want. All these things show poor morality.

    Women's crime rates in many categories traditionally dominated by men have been rising rapidly towards the male levels since the age of feminism. This suggests that personal morality regarding those crimes was not the main constraint on women.
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  • Shadow_Wolf 2012/06/20 22:50:32
    Women
    Shadow_Wolf
    Of course the average man would say women and vice versa. I generally say that everyone to some degree has lost moral. However it's not every man or every woman it's just alot of them.
  • Stan Kapusta 2012/06/20 21:55:52
    Men
    Stan Kapusta
    +1
    Men can't get pregneant. Or a bad reputation. That's why.So Guys Pig On!
  • Osaka Stan Ka... 2012/06/21 02:36:17
    Osaka
    You mean rove on?

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