If God doesn't exist (as Ed believes), then God has killed nobody.
If God does exist, God has perfect moral prerogative to give and take life.
Satan does not.
In actual fact, Atheists have slaughtered far more people in this past century alone (100-200 MILLION) than all religions combined over thousands of years.
Also, if there is no God, there is nothing immoral about murder. It's just another chemical event.
Why would an Atheist consider murder to be wrong - when there is not objective moral wrong under Atheism? The murder's opinion is no less valid than anyone else's
Ed has no point. He has blind faith that No God exists - but cannot defend it in reason.
Atheism cuts it's own throat.
Who has killed more, Satan or God?
Radical Ed
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And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. Job 1:1-19
Since I revised the number on God's kill list, I also have to change the God vs. Satan killing contest results. So here it is.
In a previous post, I counted the number of people that were killed by God in the Bible. I came up with 2,476,633, which, of course, greatly underestimates God's total death toll, since it only includes those killings for which specific numbers are given. No attempt was made to include the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc., with which the good book is filled. Still, 2 million is a respectable number even for world class killers.
But how does this compare with Satan? How many did he kill in the Bible?
Well I can only find ten, and even these he shares with God, since God allowed him to do it as a part of a bet. I'm talking about the seven sons and three daughters of Job.
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job ... And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.
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And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD ... put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
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And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house...And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. -- Job 1:1-19
So it seems that both Satan and God share the blame (or the credit) for these killings. If so, then the tally would be:
killings
God 2,476,633
Satan 10
Since I revised the number on God's kill list, I also have to change the God vs. Satan killing contest results. So here it is.
In a previous post, I counted the number of people that were killed by God in the Bible. I came up with 2,476,633, which, of course, greatly underestimates God's total death toll, since it only includes those killings for which specific numbers are given. No attempt was made to include the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc., with which the good book is filled. Still, 2 million is a respectable number even for world class killers.
But how does this compare with Satan? How many did he kill in the Bible?
Well I can only find ten, and even these he shares with God, since God allowed him to do it as a part of a bet. I'm talking about the seven sons and three daughters of Job.
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job ... And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.
...
And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD ... put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
...
And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house...And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. -- Job 1:1-19
So it seems that both Satan and God share the blame (or the credit) for these killings. If so, then the tally would be:
killings
God 2,476,633
Satan 10
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Any other discussion along this line is an argument among fools.
If God does exist, God has perfect moral prerogative to give and take life.
Satan does not.
In actual fact, Atheists have slaughtered far more people in this past century alone (100-200 MILLION) than all religions combined over thousands of years.
Also, if there is no God, there is nothing immoral about murder. It's just another chemical event.
Why would an Atheist consider murder to be wrong - when there is not objective moral wrong under Atheism? The murder's opinion is no less valid than anyone else's
Ed has no point. He has blind faith that No God exists - but cannot defend it in reason.
Atheism cuts it's own throat.
Let me guess. You have no idea. You're just following the herd of the intellectually lazy
Many letters from contemporaries.
Changed world history.
There is your evidence.
Now where is your evidence? You have none.
And I bet the letters you have in mind have been proven to be forgeries... Please name the authors of these letters... Then I will give you proof .. You still have nothing... You will always have nothing.. Because there is nothing to prove your assertions.....
The fact that you are clueless on how the New Testament was formed is your fault - not mine.
Why do you keep demanding proof when your belief is held without a shred of evidence whatsoever? I have provided you massive evidence. You have provided zero evidence.
Who cares? You can believe the Bible a cookbook if you wan't. That doesn't make your belief valid. What evidence and arguments do you have to justify your belief?
Otherwise, your opinion is worthless.
"My beliefs are equally as valid as yours"
No. I don't see any reason to think they are. Not all beliefs can be valid. You haven't justified your beliefs at all.
"I choose to believe science and not in some magical man in the sky.
I believe in science as well. That's irrelevant. Science cannot answer most questions. Can science prove your life has meaning and value - or rape is wrong?
I don't believe in a magical man in the sky either. God is non-physical and not located in space.
You don't even understand what we mean when we speak of God.