Which Bible stories are re-telling of mythology, myths and fairy tales of other cultures?
bob
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Top Opinion
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Headhunter 13 2012/04/30 17:06:08All of the above+6Pretty much every major story in both the OT and the NT are retellings and plagiarizing of older myths and ideas






















Please provide the documentation for this. Please provide historical documentation of when and where the accounts in Grims took place, who were the eyewitnesses and what were the dates. I'm really eager to investigate these astonishing claims.
Let me give you two examples that you might be able to relate to, depending on how old you are. 911 happened September 11, 2001, almost eleven years ago. There are plenty of people still around who were eyewitnesses, and we still listen to their stories. In eleven years, how much of the story has been modified to include implausable details? Has there been any mythological god stories that have arisen from that event in the past 10.5 years? Unexplained stories of miracles? Crazy, unbelievable details? I think that we would agree that the stories have not been modified to include supernatual details.
The Detroit riot broke out July 23, 1967. I was a girl then, and my mother heard it on the radio and started crying. But I wasn't that interested in it. However since then, I have had plenty of opportunities to learn about that riot from friends and others who were eyewitnesses to it. That was 45 years ago. I've been driven around the neighborhoods that were affected, and talked...
Let me give you two examples that you might be able to relate to, depending on how old you are. 911 happened September 11, 2001, almost eleven years ago. There are plenty of people still around who were eyewitnesses, and we still listen to their stories. In eleven years, how much of the story has been modified to include implausable details? Has there been any mythological god stories that have arisen from that event in the past 10.5 years? Unexplained stories of miracles? Crazy, unbelievable details? I think that we would agree that the stories have not been modified to include supernatual details.
The Detroit riot broke out July 23, 1967. I was a girl then, and my mother heard it on the radio and started crying. But I wasn't that interested in it. However since then, I have had plenty of opportunities to learn about that riot from friends and others who were eyewitnesses to it. That was 45 years ago. I've been driven around the neighborhoods that were affected, and talked to people who were helping their neighbors get their stuff out of their houses before they burned to the ground--I could keep going. The point I am trying to make is that 45 years later, eyewitnesses are still around, old newpaper accounts are still available, and no one is inventing supernatuaral details to the event that occurred 45 years ago.
Taken in the same time frame, the NT authors wrote roughly between 50 CE to 90 CE. The events that they wrote about occurred around 32 CE. Before the events were written, these men travelled extensively reporting their accounts, and creating new events that were reported in Acts and the epistles. There was a rough twenty years between the time that these events happened and when they were written down and read by people who lived in Palestine at that time. What skeptics would have us believe, is that within a twenty year time-frame, these silly superstitious people --an entire population, by the way, were so gullible that they couldn't remember what really happened, and instead swallowed some fish-tale about a man-god, that who really didn't exist. I submit to you that the versions of invented tales (and there are so many differerent theories) is much more unlikely than the simple fact that these accounts were accepted and protected as truth, simply because eyewitnesses saw these events for themselves and knew them to be true.
Moses wrote Genesis by inspiration of God. It was believed and preserved because of the miraculous signs given as a witness to the Israelites in the desert. The Prophets were also written down by the men whose names are given to them, with the exception of the end of 2 Samuel. That means that the men who exhorted the kings of Israel and Judah in regards to upcoming punishment were speaking to the people of these nations, and they were preserved because the events in these accounts took place exactly as prophesied.
I am an atheist and there is something I have never understood very well. Do you believe the Bible is inerrant? If you do does that include the stories like Noah, Jonah, the Garden of Eden, etc...? You see where I'm going I'm sure. For someone like me they sound completely insane. My mother is still a regular church goer but she takes a more interpretive approach to the Bible. (they are lessons rather than actual facts, they were attempts to explain something the author didn't understand, etc...) I've asked other Christians but I never get a very complete answer, if i get one at all.
I promise not to bombard you with arguments telling you why you're wrong. My interest is why people believe the things they do, not in telling them why those things are wrong.
Thanks gracious. :-)
If the bible is not inerrant, then I have no reason for hope. If any part of it is a lie, then who am I do figure out what is a lie and what is the truth? It all claims to be true. Why should I believe that God will forgive me, if I can't believe that God sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach the gospel of forgiveness to the pagans in that city?
The reason that I take the three stories you mention as literal, is because their validity was stated by Jesus. That is, the resurrection of Jesus, along with His claims of Divinity is sufficient evidence to conclude that He was God. That being the case, God Himself testified that the three accounts you asked me about are true.(Jonah, Adam and Noah)
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Luke 3:38
the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Mark 10:4-9
4 They said,...
If the bible is not inerrant, then I have no reason for hope. If any part of it is a lie, then who am I do figure out what is a lie and what is the truth? It all claims to be true. Why should I believe that God will forgive me, if I can't believe that God sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach the gospel of forgiveness to the pagans in that city?
The reason that I take the three stories you mention as literal, is because their validity was stated by Jesus. That is, the resurrection of Jesus, along with His claims of Divinity is sufficient evidence to conclude that He was God. That being the case, God Himself testified that the three accounts you asked me about are true.(Jonah, Adam and Noah)
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Luke 3:38
the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Mark 10:4-9
4 They said, “ Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and [a]send her away.” 5 But Jesus said to them, “[b] Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. 7 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother[c], 8 and the two shall become one flesh; so they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”
Luke 17:26-28
26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.
I will tell you this...if things don't change in this country, you will not only believe there is a God, but you will try to run from him and there won't be any where to run. I have a gut feeling God is getting mighty fed up with all of us and if we don't turn back to him and make some changes in our lives, we're going to wish we had. This is not a maybe...it happened in the past and it can well happen in our time. Our choice!
Because it would have been exposed as mythology before it took hold.
This post is obviously to put mud in the face of Abrahamic based cults. But I ask those who encourage this action. What do you have to offer in exchange? How are the folk who believe whole heart in the literalness of these retold stores any better, being exposed to the legacy of them? Will they be smarter, more tolerant, nicer? What is your intent? Other than being a smart @$$?
Do you have something that will "evolve" us more? Make us more civil? How about awaken the unused gray matter in our brains so we can all realize our potential and exercise the latent genius within us?
Anything short of that is BS
Catholic Cardinal Says Adam and Eve Didn’t Exist
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In comments that may shock some staunch Catholics, Cardinal George Pell has described the biblical story of Adam and Eve as a myth.
He appeared alongside renowned evolutionary biologist and atheist, Professor Richard Dawkins, on the ABC’s Q&A; program last night.
Cardinal Pell said the existence of Adam and Eve was not a matter of science but rather a mythological account.
“It’s a very sophisticated mythology to try to explain the evil and the suffering in the world,” he said.
“It’s a religious story told for religious purposes.”
According to Genesis, God created Adam and Eve as the first man and woman and all people are descended from them.
Children in catholic school are led to believe it`s a true story. But The poor kids are also taught alot of false things. Santa Claus....
Odin during winter solstice would go in a hunting trip and bring Deer and food to villagers and bring toys to children and everyone would sing Drink mead and tell stories Slowly the story was merged with Saint Peter and Voila Santa Claus
Think about it
Elves Magic Reindeer a fat man who gives Gifts to others for Free and only wants cookies in return The Tree the Gift Giving everything about Christmas is actually Based on the Pagan holiday Yule
Yule/ Winter Solstice the Pagan Christmas
http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
Pagan Symbolism
My 9 year old son finally told me that some people are saying that there isn`t a Santa claus. I always say to him that I still believe in him, but that it`s not about getting presents...ya right ! like he wanted to believe that part. lol
Jesus was actually Born in Early May not December
I am looking forward to your teaching `s on All Hallows Eve, or Hallows eve, halloween ....I know some of it`s history but you have a knack for this kind of stuff. lol
but Dates back to the Egyptians
October 29 Going forth of Het-Hert (Hathor) and the Ennead
October 30 Celebration of the Netjert of Weaving and Fate; Coming forth of the Bennu transformed.
October 31 Feast of Sekhmet Bast Ra
a 3 Day holiday you prayed to the Dead to thank you ancestors
gave Treats and Candy to Children and costume party that ended in feasting and an orgy
I thought it started in medeival, England, or Ireland or Scotland ,somewhere out that celtic way...
this blog Explains what the holidays is about
Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Cannanites ,Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites the Phoeicans and many more
From Garden of Eden Story to the noah ark flood story to the Exodus incident with Moses are all from OTHER Religions that existed for Thousands of years before the Hebrews and Christianity was ever invented
Jesus was born, lived, and died for our sins. He rose from the grave. He even raised people from the dead to his choosing, and yes, he will come back for us. I believe anyone who posts a question like this has not truly read the Holy Bible completely through.
The Holy Bible was written as things happened during those times by the people who were there. Granted, Moses had to have the first five books written as God would have him to because until then it was retold from father to son, and passed on. It was tradition to keep the history in the family among the Jews, and was part of a right of passage into manhood. I'd like to see anyone today recite 12 generations of their family line and pass it onto their son. That's why all the "begats" are in there.
Ya know what I mean?