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Whether your skin tans or not, tanning is the worse thing you can do for yourself. Please never tan...no in the sun or a tanning bed. A tanning bed is actually worse.

Jack's Pearl 2012/06/10 16:23:47
If you have had one burn in your life as a teen, you increase your odds of skin cancer by 50%. If you have burned more then that you basically guarantee yourself skin cancer at some point. That is how bad it is for you.

They say that tanning beds are safe, but they are misled themselves. Tanning beds are worse then tannin in the sun. So avoid those completely.

Where at least 35 poof sunscreen anytime you are out in the weather at all. You should always protect your neck and face, regardless. Even light coming through windows while you are at work or school or home, can have an effect.

Please protect your skin! Have young looking smooth skin your entire life!
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  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/06/13 18:59:11
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Very true. i remember in the 70's using baby oil in the sun to get a "healthy" looking tan. (WTF were we thinking?) Then for a while in the 90's I went to a tanning salon but stopped after a few months. Unless you've been on vacation, you just look odd with a tan in Philadelphia during Christmas. lol...
    Now we're so sun-phobic some people have a deficiency in Vitamin D.
    It seems to me it's about balance. (Just like alcohol, bacon, and chocolate.)
  • Guru Casper BN-ZERO 2012/06/12 20:03:13
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +2
    thanks good advice
  • Miko Mikomiko 2012/06/12 15:52:29
    Miko Mikomiko
    +1
    Okay, fully noted
  • Flowers 2012/06/12 15:05:02
    Flowers
    +2
    thanks for posting, I watched Mel's video she posted and it's really touching. Wearing sunscreen as much as possible reduces the risks, but we need to do more for ourselves to protect the skin we are in. We need to make sure companies continue to produce AFFORDABLE, effective sunscreen. Hold the companies that don't accountable. If they are giving us a product to use, it becomes THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to make sure that it actually works. Vitamin D is obtained from the sunrays regardless of whether the UVA and UVB are blocked by the sunscreens.
  • Jack's ... Flowers 2012/06/12 15:34:12
    Jack's Pearl
    +1
    Please rave her post too. :)
  • onetirednurse 2012/06/12 14:21:34 (edited)
    onetirednurse
    +3
    Good post.. My best friend was a tanning bed-aholic. Now she is battling metastatic melanoma. She has had 12 surgeries for melanoma tumors and lymph node dissections plus chemo and is very sick again. She has been fighting this since 2007 and I'm very worried for her, she is only 46..
  • Jack's ... onetire... 2012/06/12 14:36:20
    Jack's Pearl
    +1
    Oh my goodness. This is what is so sad. I think it's good to talk about it because most people don't know the risks. I hope your friend kicks it. Big hugs to you both.
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/12 14:12:09
    Reichstolz
    +1
    Your 50% statistic is false. Granted repeated sun exposure without protection does increase the risk of melanoma's, studies have yet to be conclusive as to how much. Also most research done into how much protection we receive from "sunscreen" is questionable.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 14:23:55
    Jack's Pearl
    Actually it may be 55% increase and it is correct. You are basically guaranteed skin cancer at some point in your life if you tan more times then once. Or burn.

    As far as using sunscreen, you need to put it on a half hour before exposure so that it get's into the skin. This is best while you are cool too. THen it needs to be reapplied as you are out. And it helps immensely to protect your skin.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/12 14:29:59
    Reichstolz
    It is false and conjecture, there is no control group in any of the research. If you want to spew unscientific crap be my guest, but you will have a counter argument every time. The use of sunscreen is just as erroneous as your claims of cancer. Burning due to sun exposure is a direct reflection of the melanin content, length of exposure, and place on the globe during the time of year you are exposed. The SPF ratings are subjective not objective.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 14:34:19
    Jack's Pearl
    I am not spewing crap. I'm telling the truth. I study health and skin issues. It's know that your odds double and quadruple the more you let your skin burn. Look at the video Mel posted. It has this in it.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/12 14:39:09
    Reichstolz
    Then you are ignorant in what you study. There is no control group to study, in order to make any claim about increased risk you would need a population that has never been exposed to the sun, which is an impossible group to create. Just because a video is created does not mean it presents truthful information.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 14:43:05
    Jack's Pearl
    I am not ignorant in anything I study. And the video was made by experts. So have the many books I've read and the nurses and Dr's I've asked. Following people over time and seeing what happens to them based off their behavior tells us a lot. This has been closely looked at for years. Good day. :)
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/12 14:47:00
    Reichstolz
    Experts with no concept of scietific research. Just because they have the title does not equate to sound information. While your video is a great scare peice, it ignors many risk factors that are undetermined. I am a physician and an epidemiologist sound evidence based research is not presented in any of the melanoma research, but it sure gives alot of "skin care" companies plenty of free advertising for products that cannot prove any claim.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 15:38:50
    Jack's Pearl
    You do not know what I have concepts of. This is NOT scare tactics. That is a gross over statement. It is known period that people need to protect their skin. I'm really glad you aren't my skin Dr. Sorry to say, but it's true. You sound a little paranoid and have some other agenda. Anger you are taking out on this topic. This isn't out there to sell products. Shoot, a little SPF 35 costs just a few dollars. Give it a rest.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/12 15:44:08
    Reichstolz
    There is no anger, why must you project? There is no sound evidence that proves: first, that sunscreen can protect you from melanoma's, secondly, risk factors for malignant melanoma's are not all known, third, to make a increased risk claim without a risk free population to use as a control is dishonest. It is unclear what the agenda of your piece is but it isn't to represent accurate information, that is certain.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 15:48:07
    Jack's Pearl
    I do give accurate information, or at least DO intend to. And I have learned recently how very critical skin protection is. For everyone. So I'm sharing it. Thanks for your discussion. Feel free to post all you'd like on the thread. Talk with others. :)
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/12 16:22:14
    Reichstolz
    +1
    Your information is not accurate, there are no accurate studies when discussing this topic.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 16:26:48
    Jack's Pearl
    That is your opinion. :) Thanks for sharing. I really do appreciate it, even if we disagree.
  • Pele Em... Reichstolz 2012/06/12 17:35:57 (edited)
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    From skincancer.org (spelling edit)

    Skin cancer is the most common form of cancer in the United States. More than 3.5 million skin cancers in over two million people are diagnosed annually.1

    Each year there are more new cases of skin cancer than the combined incidence of cancers of the breast, prostate, lung and colon.2

    One in five Americans will develop skin cancer in the course of a lifetime.3

    Over the past 31 years, more people have had skin cancer than all other cancers combined.4

    Nearly 800,000 Americans are living with a history of melanoma and 13 million are living with a history of nonmelanoma skin cancer, typically diagnosed as basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.5

    Actinic keratosis is the most common precancer; it affects more than 58 million Americans.6 Approximately 65 percent of all squamous cell carcinomas arise in lesions that previously were diagnosed as actinic keratoses. In patients with a history of two or more skin cancers, 36 percent of basal cell carcinomas arise in lesions previously diagnosed as actinic keratoses.7

    Basal cell carcinoma (BCC) is the most common form of skin cancer; an estimated 2.8 million are diagnosed annually in the US.8 BCCs are rarely fatal, but can be highly disfiguring if allowed to grow.

    Squam...





    From skincancer.org (spelling edit)

    Skin cancer is the most common form of cancer in the United States. More than 3.5 million skin cancers in over two million people are diagnosed annually.1

    Each year there are more new cases of skin cancer than the combined incidence of cancers of the breast, prostate, lung and colon.2

    One in five Americans will develop skin cancer in the course of a lifetime.3

    Over the past 31 years, more people have had skin cancer than all other cancers combined.4

    Nearly 800,000 Americans are living with a history of melanoma and 13 million are living with a history of nonmelanoma skin cancer, typically diagnosed as basal cell carcinoma or squamous cell carcinoma.5

    Actinic keratosis is the most common precancer; it affects more than 58 million Americans.6 Approximately 65 percent of all squamous cell carcinomas arise in lesions that previously were diagnosed as actinic keratoses. In patients with a history of two or more skin cancers, 36 percent of basal cell carcinomas arise in lesions previously diagnosed as actinic keratoses.7

    Basal cell carcinoma (BCC) is the most common form of skin cancer; an estimated 2.8 million are diagnosed annually in the US.8 BCCs are rarely fatal, but can be highly disfiguring if allowed to grow.

    Squamous cell carcinoma (SCC) is the second most common form of skin cancer.9 An estimated 700,000 cases are diagnosed each year in the US,10 resulting in approximately 2,500 deaths.2

    Between 40 and 50 percent of Americans who live to age 65 will have either skin cancer at least once.11

    About 90 percent of nonmelanoma skin cancers are associated with exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun.12

    Treatment of nonmelanoma skin cancers increased by nearly 77 percent between 1992 and 2006.13
    (more)
  • Jack's ... Pele Em... 2012/06/12 23:09:30
    Jack's Pearl
    +1
    Thank you for finding this to post. Very helpful.
  • Pele Em... Jack's ... 2012/06/13 02:46:18
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    Arguing with you for arguments sake seemed a little ridiculous. It's well-established that the sun has a role in skin cancer. ;)
  • Reichstolz Pele Em... 2012/06/13 03:45:40
    Reichstolz
    Not well established by those who want sound research. There is no accurate data to be had due to the fact we do not have a naive population to study.
  • Pele Em... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 04:13:50
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    There have been all sorts of legitimate studies and all sorts of sound and reliable research.
  • Reichstolz Pele Em... 2012/06/13 13:39:19
    Reichstolz
    Please tell me what they are using for a control group when determining risk?
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 11:47:23
    Jack's Pearl
    When it comes to cancer and things it's impossible to have a control group. Observation and writing down what we see over years is how we learn. That is how we know the effects of the sun on our skin over a period of time.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/13 13:40:26
    Reichstolz
    Correct and to make observational assessments and classify them as determinate is impossible.
  • Jack's ... Pele Em... 2012/06/13 11:46:00
    Jack's Pearl
    +1
    I know. We weren't even arguing. You were talking to someone else. I stepped in. :)
  • Pele Em... Jack's ... 2012/06/13 18:38:31
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    I just didn't like his rude remarks to you, but arguing with him is like banging your head against the wall. It feels so good when you stop! So, he can just argue with himself.

    No matter what you say to him, it's wrong, the group is a government conspiracy, and there is no 'proof.'
  • Jack's ... Pele Em... 2012/06/13 18:41:04
    Jack's Pearl
    +1
    I agree. Thank you for staying to point. Whether we agreed or not. I know you would not insult me.
  • Pele Em... Jack's ... 2012/06/13 18:47:10
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    Civility is the oil which helps society function. No one has to agree, but I do on this. Let's leave skin cancer out of the equation: Excessive tanning ages your skin. I saw this firsthand when I was newly married and living in Sacramento--husband was in USAF. We lived in an apartment with a pool--very common. Two of the assistant managers for the place were in their late 50's/early 60's. In other words, not much older than I am right now. Their skin was like crocodile hide from tanning. They both looked 80, instead of 20 years younger. It was a lesson I never forgot. I have fairly light skin, but I'm fortunate that even though pale, I neither tan nor burn too easily. At least I know my skin doesn't look like badly tanned leather!
  • Reichstolz Pele Em... 2012/06/13 03:44:32
    Reichstolz
    Great you can copy and paste, now can you copy and paste the data used to extrapolate these numbers.
    According to the claims, of risk, on this post, the malignancy rates should be in the billions of cases annually, do you have that data.
    Let me break it down for you by citation
    Citation 1
    "Estimated incidence"
    Citation 2
    Please refer to page 5
    http://www.cancer.org/acs/gro...
    Citation 3
    "Estimated effect"
    Citation 4
    See revision history
    http://seer.cancer.gov/csr/19...
    Citation 5
    The Lewen Group nothing but a lobbying group for health care dollars, so far have produced reports regarding breast cancer increases, prostate cancer increases, anything that will pour more grant money into those they represent.

    Interesting and they are here to educate, surely you jest.
    http://www.skincancer.org/abo...


    I hope you understand the point. Please come to the table from an educated perspective or do not come at all.
  • Pele Em... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 04:17:24
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    Fine. Tan away and cry large tears when what might have been basal cell carcinoma becomes malignant melanoma. It's your skin and your life. Tanning is not all that attractive and ages the skin dramatically, even if you don't believe it causes cancer.
    old tan
  • Reichstolz Pele Em... 2012/06/13 13:50:29
    Reichstolz
    Carrying a book of matches causes cancer as well, I can prove that to you with all statistical certainty. Never once would I need to include the fact that those who use tobacco carry matches. Making assertions and recommendations. when not evidence based, is how blood letting remained a viable treatment for hundreds of years.
    I understand where your perceived concern comes from. You have been told that if you do "x", "y" won't happen, unfortunately the evidence is not sufficient to support that.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 11:48:20
    Jack's Pearl
    We are both very educated. Stop being rude. Leave if you can't be civil.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/13 13:51:33
    Reichstolz
    I apologize if your perception of accurate communication is rude, but I would tend to disagree that what you are presenting is educated.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 14:04:37
    Jack's Pearl
    This is my perception of rudeness. YOU: "I hope you understand the point. Please come to the table from an educated perspective or do not come at all." This is where I say leave if you can't be a civil person. Resorting to trying to hush people up because your points aren't adding up is uncouth and rude. Good day to you.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/13 14:05:52
    Reichstolz
    People spewing ignorance should be hushed. Everyone is entitled to opinion, but furthering ignorance should never be tolerated.
  • Jack's ... Reichstolz 2012/06/13 14:14:56
    Jack's Pearl
    No one here, including you is spewing ignorance. No one on SH needs to by "hushed." If you don't like something, go away. Or stay and be civil. But DO NOT insult others intentions or knowledge. Insults get you no where. I won't listen to it any further. If you decide to be fair in your discussion; meaning no insults, then feel free to continue on. If not, I ask you to stop. Ugliness is not welcome on my threads.
  • Reichstolz Jack's ... 2012/06/13 14:19:25
    Reichstolz
    Ah the wonderful world of civility and the end of accurate use of language, what a thoughtless world it can be.

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