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When the native people of America offered them help, which religious group betrayed and massacred the natives and stole their land from sea to shining sea?

Foxhound BN0 2012/07/25 11:22:49
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  • donna.robinson.102 2012/08/14 15:25:37
    Christians
    donna.robinson.102
    +1
    Everyone has a right to their beleifs!
  • Barefoot Peace and Love∞ijm... 2012/08/11 23:29:14
    Christians
    Barefoot Peace and Love∞ijm♥☮♥∞
    +1
    american native land
    history repeats itself....!!
  • prayer warrior 2012/08/11 23:27:19
    Christians
    prayer warrior
    +1
    Those who claim to be Christians have always used religion as a power base.
  • abycinnamon BN-1 2012/08/11 20:43:15
    Christians
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    The same people who want to call this a christian nation.
  • Dwight 2012/07/26 19:29:38
    Christians
    Dwight
    +3
    Of course it was.

    Now get your ass on a boat and go back where your people came from! Maybe you can keep muslims from taking that from you.

    I can stay because I am Catawba.
  • bags th... Dwight 2012/07/26 20:32:50
  • Dwight bags th... 2012/07/27 14:44:09
    Dwight
    +2
    LOL! I like that.

    Ever notice just how many times such a thing has happened around the world? And the Tribes of North America were not much different really. Civilizations had risen and fallen before blue eyes and red beards were seen. And it would have happened again in time.
  • bags th... Dwight 2012/07/27 14:49:59 (edited)
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +2
    Yes, I'm sure it would have. Just a the Great Auk would have become extinct sooner or later, or any human will die sooner or later. But wouldn't it be wonderful if genocides didn't happen, and people and civilizations came to their own ends as their development led them.

    edit" BTW - the Vikings came here first. They integrated with the folks they found here in the New World. Mandan to this day find blue eyes and/or blondish hair cropping up here and there. The Lakotah has their Fox Clan......know for their fire red hair.
  • Dwight bags th... 2012/07/27 15:11:08
    Dwight
    +1
    Same with the Lumbies of eastern NC. Some think they are product of walter Ralieghs "Lost Colony". Lot's of Scot/Irish mixed into South Eastern Tribes for sure. Granny was Catawba but Gramps was German and my eyes are blue. And my mothers family is always prematurely grey.

    But I think, like horses or whatever, the more pure breed are more prone to more genetic problems.
  • bags th... Dwight 2012/07/27 15:13:33
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +3
    LOL.....'hybrid vigor', eh? ;)
  • Dwight bags th... 2012/07/27 15:22:32
    Dwight
    +1
    In a manner of speaking, yes.

    Seriously, I believe it to be eligant proof of common ancestery that all ethnic groups can inter breed. And I believe that when we do we deepen our genetic material rather than leaving it shallow. Many may not like that thought, but I believe it's to our childrens benefit.
  • bags th... Dwight 2012/07/27 15:26:56
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +3
    As the Grandmothers taught me, the Creator made all the colors of mankind to grow on one ear of corn to show us that we are all the same even if we look different. Wise people the elders.....
  • Dwight bags th... 2012/07/27 15:41:17
    Dwight
    +1
    I have found the old ones to be more wise as I've aged myself. And I like that metaphor.
  • bags th... Dwight 2012/07/27 15:45:10
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +2
    Gramma Coco....Sauk and Fox. Wonderful woman.
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/07/26 16:51:11
    Christians
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +2
    My gawd, we agree on something. LOL But since I am Native American, I would call the ones who did that "fake Christians" because when our people read the Bible finally for ourselves, we found that the Jesus of the New Testament's spiritual way of love was very much like our way of respecting all life. Once a Lakota elder (I am Cherokee) said that, "This Jesus would have made a good Lakota. Too bad they don't follow His way." LOL
  • Dwight Nam Era... 2012/07/26 19:31:57
    Dwight
    +1
    My great-grandmother once said the whites were a mixed blessing. They took the land, but stopped us fighting among ourselves.
  • Nam Era... Dwight 2012/07/26 19:44:31
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +1
    That's because there were so few of us left that it was just plain stupid to continue fighting among ourselves. LOL
  • Dwight Nam Era... 2012/07/26 19:49:40
    Dwight
    +2
    I guess. Still, glad I don't have to worry about raiding Irioquois or Shawnee down here in Carolina.
  • Xerxes 2012/07/26 16:11:16
    Christians
    Xerxes
    +1
    Still waiting for your proof. Don't make an accusation if you cannot back it up
  • Marcus Clark 2012/07/25 23:20:46
    Muslims
    Marcus Clark
    None of the above
  • rand 2012/07/25 21:27:13
    Christians
    rand
    +4
    ...as a matter of having been those on the continent. The Jews wiped out the Canaanites for their land and the Muslims slaughtered thousands of Hindus to get theirs. Those most true to their pacifist words are the Buddhists. Check out Asoka. “Society is founded not on the ideals but on the nature of man…” “…known history shows little alteration in the conduct of mankind.” From The Lessons of History by the Durants.
  • ALofRI 2012/07/25 19:15:18
    Christians
    ALofRI
    +1
    But...but...They were SAVAGES! And...and ...(my Romney imitation), We did it in the name of GOD...so it was O.K.....
  • Foxhoun... ALofRI 2012/07/25 19:19:21
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    Praise Jesus and his magic underwear!
  • ALofRI Foxhoun... 2012/07/25 20:22:56
    ALofRI
    +2
    Magic underwear?? And I thought they were miracles! Damn! Charlatanized again!
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/07/25 17:41:46
    Christians
    C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT
    +3
    Land of the Thieves, Home of the Slaves...
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2012/07/25 15:41:20 (edited)
    Christians
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +2
    But it was not just one religious group. "Christians" were not just one group, even back then. And there were likely Jews and Muslims involved in lesser numbers. And it was not the majority of any group that betrayed and massacred the natives (which natives also were known to massacre, scalp, etc., the White Man).

    The Question is skewed, both in the phrasing of the Question and in the Choices provided.
  • Foxhoun... Dave Sa... 2012/07/25 19:21:09
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    They would beg to differ.
  • Dave Sa... Foxhoun... 2012/07/25 19:48:29
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    And who are "they"?
  • petean05 Dave Sa... 2012/07/25 21:50:02
    petean05
    +1
    Actually, scalping was a practice that originated with German mercenaries. They got paid by the kill, and so would bring back scalps to get a count and a paycheck. Natives adopted this practice from them over time.
  • Dave Sa... petean05 2012/07/25 23:28:03
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    No.
    While Germans may have paid for scalps, "Scalping was being practiced by the Native Americans prior to the arrival of any European explorers and settlers." ... "Although the Europeans did not originate scalping, they certainly did encourage its promotion and spread. This was accomplished by the posting of bounties for each scalp brought in ... "

    http://www.mohicanpress.com/m...
  • petean05 Dave Sa... 2012/07/26 23:21:13
    petean05
    Thank you for the information. It sounds as though I was incorrect in what I had learned previously. From what I am reading now, delving past the site you linked, is that scalping may have been practiced as early as 400 B.C.

    From there it has been used all over the world, by Europeans, pre-Colombian Americans, and many other cultures.
  • Dave Sa... petean05 2012/07/26 23:24:38
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    Alma Chapter 44, in the Book of Mormon, recounts one instance of it about 75 BC.
  • Contarded Guru Chickenhawk 2012/07/25 13:54:05
  • Brad # 2486547 2012/07/25 13:46:55
  • Contard... Brad # ... 2012/07/25 13:55:45
  • Chris- ... Contard... 2012/07/25 14:04:40
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +5
    Why even respond to to this guy? You have WAY more patience than I. :-)
  • Contard... Chris- ... 2012/07/25 14:14:49
  • Chris- ... Contard... 2012/07/25 14:20:32
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +3
    I guess that depends on how bored you are. :^D
  • Contard... Chris- ... 2012/07/25 14:24:41
  • Brad # ... Contard... 2012/07/25 16:33:50
    Brad # 2486547
    Good call..you would have lost the debate.

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