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What would happen if your country built a strong community in another country?

Eyes See Wide North 2012/07/19 02:39:33
England has many communities within itself, Muslim communities,
Asian communities and especially black communities,
all of which live with the lower class English.

Only in some places a particular ethnic group becomes a neighbourhood,
and usually when this happens to cry out loud to have things changed to
suit there own ways.

America did the exact same thing a long time with there "ghetto" communities,
they are still dealing with the backlash.

And while im on the subject I might aswell mention Hitler,
who pretty much perfected this form of society, the ghetto.

But lets look at this from both angles

What good would a community of people from your country or city/town
do in another country, how would they adapt to there new environment?

Please answer with examples if you wish, stating your country and the country you would like to inhabit.


Beware however, if your going to make incredibly stupid statements
or demonstrate plain ignorance
I am going to demonstrate what an idiot you are.
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  • Resp 2012/08/12 12:13:27
    Resp
    It is acceptable apparently only if non-Europeans create the community.

    When Europeans or European-Americans practice this then it is called "racism".
  • Metaldane 2012/07/19 09:55:22
    Metaldane
    +1
    It'd be up to each individual how the reacted some would try to form their own area others would immediately adapt to the new society it just depend on the person, what they value, and what their new society values.

    I for one would do quite well if We went to Denmark and would probably leave behind any American community there but if we moved to Ireland I'd defenintly stay.
  • Eyes Se... Metaldane 2012/07/19 11:36:06
    Eyes See Wide North
    Some are better at adapting, if an entire community moved abroad and decided to keep to there own, no good would come from that.

    I hate seclusion, the people of this world would never understand just how much it effects our world.
  • Elephant Lord 2012/07/19 09:09:15
    Elephant Lord
    I don't know. But the native Americans also allowed this to happen, and they were faced with backlash too.
  • Eyes Se... Elephan... 2012/07/19 11:33:37
    Eyes See Wide North
    They did not allow it, they were massively overpowered.
  • sockpuppet 2012/07/19 04:25:41
    sockpuppet
    Before you criticize anyone for being an idiot, you should really learn the difference between "their" and "there" and work on the "your/you're" thing.

    Then you can examine your facts regarding ghettos... American vs German. You'll find that the ones in the States are more like the slums in Ireland than the internment areas
    of WWII Warsaw, f'rinstance. :O)

    And to answer your question, every time I was deployed to an American military enclave in any other country, we were self-supporting and highly adaptable. Even beyond this, the locals thrived because of our presence-- we provide medical, logistical and economic support wherever we raise our flag.
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/07/19 04:35:56 (edited)
    Eyes See Wide North
    Correcting spelling mistakes, typical of someone who finds reason in everything to complain, boo-hoo I made a few spelling mistakes, whats the worse that could happen?

    I did mention England, but yeah just disregard that because it doesnt suit your point :)

    Yeah, I am aware of the fact that your ghettos are a prettier sight, does not change the fact it is a ghetto, what did you really think??

    Thats army...
    Im not talking about military occupations which are always intended to either destroy, support or re-build an area, so your example has no relevance to my question, I could have just asked what does your country do when it invades another?
    Which by the way, just because it was all nice and pretty for you does not make it that way everywhere, in fact many places your men raise there flag are flattened....

    Your really starting to irritate me, you love taking the moral highground but have yet to show me any right to it.
  • sockpuppet Eyes Se... 2012/07/19 05:12:38 (edited)
    sockpuppet
    The Third Reich's ghettos were nothing like ours in the States. Read up on it. We're talking about enforced internment, barbed wire, guards, dogs and patrols. In America, it's just low-income housing. They're free to live wherever they please, as long as they can finagle the finances, like everyone else.

    My answer regarding military enclaves seems a perfect fit with your question, so you've re-defined the terms to exclude it because you've closed your mind to America, being anything but detrimental to your fictitious little world of noble savages.

    Sure... we've hammered a lot of places. You're asking about community building, though-- and the military forces of the Civilized World are all about that. I think you watch too much television.

    As for the moral high ground... well. You're the one slinging mud-- it's up to *you* to convince *me* that you're not just a crackpot 20-someting ideologue in a coffee shop somewhere. If you want credibility, earn it with experience.

    Finally, they're NOT spelling mistakes-- they're grammatical errors. You honestly have no idea how to use some of the most elementary words in our language. Homophone problems like "there" and "their" generally plague the non-reader. You don't see it very often, so you've never learned to tell one from the other.

    That's another thing that you should be working on if you want others to come and sit at your feet.
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/07/19 07:59:35
    Eyes See Wide North
    Look at the bigger picture..
    Im not just talking about guard dogs, and by the way, when the ghettos were first created, they were just low income neighbourhoods, they were moved into the camps after, you were obviously assuming I had no idea about history..

    Bering born in a ghetto is like a handicap, its a tool used by society so everyone else can feel safe.
    This is done by making the most of the middle and all of the upper class believe that all the bad guys come from the ghetto, making them feel safe once they are outside it, and of course, every ghetto has there own style, accents and slang, so even when outside the ghetto they are still identifiable.

    Idiot, im not making that up, so stop fighting me about it.

    Could you please go into further detail about your 2nd paragraph, you seem to be copying me.

    You dont seem to think very well, you just keep making assumptions, stop making this about me, keep focused on the point, im doing that, but when you try to talk about me, I have to drop to your level...

    How do I know your not some crack head? Im not trying to prove myself here kid, im making my point, I have re-read 4 of our previous debates just now (from different angles) and still, it is you in the wrong.
    And what I noticed your very good at is making it seem like its me, ever...











    Look at the bigger picture..
    Im not just talking about guard dogs, and by the way, when the ghettos were first created, they were just low income neighbourhoods, they were moved into the camps after, you were obviously assuming I had no idea about history..

    Bering born in a ghetto is like a handicap, its a tool used by society so everyone else can feel safe.
    This is done by making the most of the middle and all of the upper class believe that all the bad guys come from the ghetto, making them feel safe once they are outside it, and of course, every ghetto has there own style, accents and slang, so even when outside the ghetto they are still identifiable.

    Idiot, im not making that up, so stop fighting me about it.

    Could you please go into further detail about your 2nd paragraph, you seem to be copying me.

    You dont seem to think very well, you just keep making assumptions, stop making this about me, keep focused on the point, im doing that, but when you try to talk about me, I have to drop to your level...

    How do I know your not some crack head? Im not trying to prove myself here kid, im making my point, I have re-read 4 of our previous debates just now (from different angles) and still, it is you in the wrong.
    And what I noticed your very good at is making it seem like its me, every question I throw at you instead of answering you return it to me.
    You dont often listen to everything I have to say, instead dwelling on your own priorities, and taking every slight offense as an opportunity to throw offense back.

    And FINALLY, like I care, if my grammatical errors bother you so much, dont bother reading.

    Another assumption...

    I dont know whats wrong with your head, but you have obviously got a chip on your shoulder.
    I see make you some good points, but once you find a disagreement, thats all you will find with someone.

    You must be a prick, I hope im hitting close to home when I say this behaviour of yours is hurting a lot of the people who love or loved you.

    Seriously tell me you have not noticed this behaviour in yourself?
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  • Vision of Verve 2012/07/19 04:05:00
  • Eyes Se... Vision ... 2012/07/19 04:13:22
    Eyes See Wide North
    Simple reason, communities dont have power over themselves, they are governed by people who cannot relate to what it is like where they live, a mile can make a massive difference.

    This is why America, Ireland and other countries rebelled against England, because there leaders were to far away to deal with there issues, every neighbourhood needs a president.

    The average neighbourhood where I live is about 10 thousand +
    And in some of the larger cities, it can be hundreds of thousands.
  • sockpuppet Eyes Se... 2012/07/19 04:35:12
    sockpuppet
    Colonial expansion is a business move. They don't send out occupying forces and settlement parties just so they can 'govern' someone half a world away. It all turns on the wheels of commerce.
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/07/19 04:37:31
    Eyes See Wide North
    They are still in charge of many factors that need to be decided by the people there,

    So you slam me for supporting particular aspects of Hitlers regime, but then show complete support for the old British Empire?

    Your too funny
  • sockpuppet Eyes Se... 2012/07/19 14:28:48
    sockpuppet
    Are you supporting aspects of Hitler's regime? Which ones?
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/07/20 11:18:34
    Eyes See Wide North
    The ones I like.
    - One world united
    - When he started the war, Germany was currently being treated unfairly, he wanted equality, something a lot of countries in our world today should demand.
    - How much he accomplished in a short few year
    - Technological advancements
    - How he inspired his followers.
    - The massive industrial boost

    Take those traits, say them without thinking of Hitler so you can actually look at something with an open mind for once.

    I know when you talk about Hitler, straight away you close yourself off, you made it clear in an earlier post.

    Now the traits your country adapted.
    - Propaganda
    - Ghetto communities
    - Uniting people by making someone else out to be the bad guy
    - Conspiracy

    Aswell as stealing a large number of Nazi scientists (all types of scientists, including social engineering ones) who helped your country invent nuclear weaponry.
  • sockpuppet Vision ... 2012/07/19 04:30:06
    sockpuppet
    He's in Europe... he doesn't really get the whole 'freedom' thing. The whole question is just intended to compare the US to Nazi Germany because he's too passive-aggressive to come out and say it like a grownup. :O)
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/07/19 04:31:48
    Eyes See Wide North
    You assume so much, are you not aware of your own ignorance?

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