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What is 'Rich'?

Transquesta 2012/08/03 06:52:20
'Rich' is having X amount of money (find for X :-) ).
'Rich' is a socioeconomic class/condition.
'Rich' is deriving any portion of one's income from source(s) other than one's effort or work (e.g., estates, dividends, interest, etc.)).
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Is it a state of mind? Is it an amount of money? Is it a socioeconomic class or condition? With all this talk about the 'greedy rich,' nobody seems able or willing to define it.
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  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/08 11:57:14
    'Rich' is a socioeconomic class/condition.
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +1
    I would think rich is a subjective identity based on everyone else's income and wealth, and the cost of living. I would class it as maybe the top 20% usually, or maybe someone of whom 80+% income is disposable. For example, In Africa, $10,000 might make you rich, but in America, $300,000 might make you rich.
  • me being me 2012/08/06 23:01:27
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    me being me
    +1
    More of a state of mind. With some people, it doesn't matter how much money they have. It's never enough. Which means in their minds, they rn't "Rich" yet.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/06 22:40:44
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    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    Rich is a relative term..... And only Americans answer it in this way.
  • betz 2012/08/05 13:13:31 (edited)
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    betz
    +1
    One can be rich in different ways.

    You can be rich in your life by having a loving family, being in good health, having a good job, being surrounded by wonderful friends.



    Being rich when it comes to money is having enough money to not only provide comfortably for yourself but also having enough left that you can do for others also.
  • doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/05 13:10:10
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    doofiegirl  POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Rich is being happy with who you are, and what you have. Friends are the richness in my life! The more I have, the richer I am!
  • Hamilton 2012/08/05 09:55:36
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    Hamilton
    +1
    Rich is thinking we can spend our way out of debt or that by raising our already astronomical tax rate we can tax our way out of debt and it will not hurt our already bleeding economy.

    Now THAT is just Rich!!
  • Jkirk3279 2012/08/05 00:57:35
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    Jkirk3279
    +1
    "Rich" is having an income five times that of the National Average, whether it is Earned Income or Unearned Income.

    For example, an income of $250,000 per year qualifies as Rich, because the median HOUSEHOLD income in the United States is less than $50K.

    Alternate definition: having enough in a Cayman Island bank to provide yourself with more than $250,000 per year spending allowance per year of expected lifespan.
  • Transqu... Jkirk3279 2012/08/05 00:59:51
    Transquesta
    Hey, at least you have a definition. Most don't. :-)
  • Tennessee3501 2012/08/04 20:26:18
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    Tennessee3501
    +2
    Isn' that when there is too much sugar and butter in your dessert? LOL !
  • Swampdog 2012/08/04 17:27:59
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    Swampdog
    +2
    Rich is how one would describe another who may have acquired wealth to the point of being independent. "They are rich, but we aren't bad off." To describe oneself as rich is presumptuous and without class.
  • Minarchist 2012/08/04 16:13:33
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    Minarchist
    +1
    The ability to function though society by means of sustainable wealth without effort that also provides bargaining in trade for the mediums of exchange in which provides that specific individual no function of needs, desires, or wants.
  • Transqu... Minarchist 2012/08/04 17:54:55
    Transquesta
    Nice! Kudos, well done and all that!
  • Minarchist Transqu... 2012/08/04 18:01:15
    Minarchist
    +1
    suffering by the depletion of brain cells on that one
  • A.Oscar 2012/08/04 12:25:23
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    A.Oscar
    +2
    Rich is a person that conformed with which have make him happy; could be just enough money, good house, lovely companion like wife, health, no worries, and sleep like a Angel. Friends always come and go.
  • oros 2012/08/04 10:56:33 (edited)
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    oros
    +1
    http://thevileplutocrat.com/

    No further comment necessary.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/08/03 21:54:37
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    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Rich is having a loving wife and great children.
  • Ron in Oregon 2012/08/03 21:33:03
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    Ron in Oregon
    +2
    Rich does not have to always imply money.
  • Transqu... Ron in ... 2012/08/03 21:54:22
    Transquesta
    +1
    Agreed!
  • us 2012/08/03 21:24:41
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    us
    +1
    Rich, there will alway be someone wealthy than you, I believe you can be rich at heart,
    Rich could mean so many thing, I don't believe we should judge people on what they make. I think people that are in congress have over stepped what they make.
  • Theresa 2012/08/03 16:46:38
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    Theresa
    +1
    Rich is totally subjunctive. It can be anyone who is monetarily wealthier than you at any one period of time.
  • Transqu... Theresa 2012/08/03 17:22:31
    Transquesta
    +1
    'Subjunctive.' Excellent word choice. You don't see many people these days who can use the word correctly.

    Anyway, you're right.
  • Theresa Transqu... 2012/08/03 18:18:21
    Theresa
    +2
    I do have a very large vocabulary. LOL!
  • Transqu... Theresa 2012/08/03 19:02:07
    Transquesta
    +1
    A real lexicographic legend, huh? :-)

    I'm kinda fond of alliterations myself.
  • Theresa Transqu... 2012/08/03 22:28:00
    Theresa
    +1
    Indeed! LOL!
  • BoomLover 2012/08/03 14:27:54
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    BoomLover
    +2
    All depends on who is giving you the definition...Government thinks anybody with anything left over after taxes is "Rich", while most people in other countries think and most Americans are "Rich". We live in a country where even someone who has been designated as "Poor" still live in a house, with electricity, running water, have at least 1 TV, and have at least 1 car. And are receiving at least one source of income, even if it is from "the government". That makes the U.S. "Poor" richer than 3/4 of the rest of the people in the world. AS far as the "99%" and the "Occupiers" are concerned, all this nations ills would be solved by just "Taxing" the "Rich" and spreading their "money" around among themselves....
  • Transqu... BoomLover 2012/08/03 17:25:21
    Transquesta
    +1
    Indeed, rich is relative. Our urban outdoorsmen live more lavishly than half the world's 'middle class.'
  • us BoomLover 2012/08/03 21:07:23
    us
    +1
    I agree, alot americans are clueless how other countries are poor, but there government is wealthy does not share with there people.
  • Jkirk3279 BoomLover 2012/08/05 01:02:07
    Jkirk3279
    +1
    Ah, except that most of the folks in Europe have all those things, without the crushing personal debt.

    I once had this argument with a Conservative, who insisted that Poverty had been wiped out in America. Because, according to him, owning a refrigerator and a TV made you rich.

    Go back, and study the increase of the National Debt after Reagan nearly tripled it.

    Now observe the growth of the Debt, and compare this to the amount of money the US Government did NOT take in due to the Reagan Tax Cuts for the upper 2%.

    I think you'll find where the Debt came from.
  • OPOA912 2012/08/03 13:43:03 (edited)
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    OPOA912
    +2
    It sure in the hell is not $250,000! Does anyone really think about this figure and realize that because OZbama has driven us to bankruptcy this seems rich? CBO report on the rich CBO report on the rich CBO report on the rich
  • Transqu... OPOA912 2012/08/03 17:28:23
    Transquesta
    +1
    When I was ten I thought anyone who had $250,000 was filthy rich. And when I was ten, they probably were relatively speaking. Nowadays, they tell you not to even THINK about retirement until you have at least half a mil squirreled away.
  • OPOA912 Transqu... 2012/08/03 17:33:29
    OPOA912
    +1
    Exactly, and even then you're going to get it taxed to the point of being poor. We don't tax to little, the government spends to much.
  • Transqu... OPOA912 2012/08/03 21:10:27
    Transquesta
    +1
    Amen!

    (Not that I have any particular fondness for slavery by income tax in any form or to any degree, of course.)
  • Jkirk3279 OPOA912 2012/08/05 01:54:08
    Jkirk3279
    +1
    Perhaps you don't know how the tax system works.

    If you make $35K a year, someone who makes $388,350 a year pays the SAME taxes as you on his first 35K.

    About 15 cents on the dollar. You keep 85 cents.

    On the first dollar above that, he pays 25 cents. He keeps 75 cents. (You get nothing.)

    On the first dollar above $85,650, he pays 28 cents.

    On the first dollar above $178,650, he pays 33 cents.

    Above $388,350 he pays 35 cents.

    That means that if he's raking in $388,350+ he's still keeping 65 cents per dollar after that. And his taxes don't rise any more no matter how much he makes.

    That's the lowest top rate in the Western World.

    The top rate in Germany, that is much more prosperous than we are, is 51%.

    If you want to pay less than in the USA, you need to move to Singapore. Or Somalia.

    This is all ignoring the fact that REALLY high incomes are taxed on Capital Gains, and only pay a flat ~14%.

    Twenty Hedge Fund Managers on Wall Street bring in $2,000,000,000.00 PER YEAR.

    Yes, $2 Billion per year. Every year.

    And they pay 14% or less.

    The truth is, your Federal taxes are LOWER than they've been in DECADES.

    If you do the math, your statement "taxed to the point of being poor" simply makes no sense.

    A guy making over a million dollars a year is going to be third-house shopping, not ...





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    Perhaps you don't know how the tax system works.

    If you make $35K a year, someone who makes $388,350 a year pays the SAME taxes as you on his first 35K.

    About 15 cents on the dollar. You keep 85 cents.

    On the first dollar above that, he pays 25 cents. He keeps 75 cents. (You get nothing.)

    On the first dollar above $85,650, he pays 28 cents.

    On the first dollar above $178,650, he pays 33 cents.

    Above $388,350 he pays 35 cents.

    That means that if he's raking in $388,350+ he's still keeping 65 cents per dollar after that. And his taxes don't rise any more no matter how much he makes.

    That's the lowest top rate in the Western World.

    The top rate in Germany, that is much more prosperous than we are, is 51%.

    If you want to pay less than in the USA, you need to move to Singapore. Or Somalia.

    This is all ignoring the fact that REALLY high incomes are taxed on Capital Gains, and only pay a flat ~14%.

    Twenty Hedge Fund Managers on Wall Street bring in $2,000,000,000.00 PER YEAR.

    Yes, $2 Billion per year. Every year.

    And they pay 14% or less.

    The truth is, your Federal taxes are LOWER than they've been in DECADES.

    If you do the math, your statement "taxed to the point of being poor" simply makes no sense.

    A guy making over a million dollars a year is going to be third-house shopping, not eating Mac and Cheese.

    Reagan set the Capital Gains tax to the same level as the highest tax bracket, then 28%. He said it was ridiculous for a millionaire to pay a lower percentage of his taxes than a bus driver.

    The most prosperous times in America, had the highest tax rate at 74%.

    This was because the higher rate encouraged the wealthy business owners to avoid the taxes by NOT paying themselves > $3 Million per year.

    In a business, you can always re-invest instead of paying yourself. Buy new equipment, do some advertising, expand and hire more people; labor is always a write-off.

    And of course, if you buy new equipment and advertise, you'll NEED to hire more people to fill your expanding orders.

    And the money you pay your employees flows back into the community; more businesses get started where your employees can spend that money.

    People buy houses rather than live in Apartments. Which means Contractors have more work.

    By the time you are ready to retire, your business is HUGE.

    But... cut the taxes on the 1%... and they put the money they save on taxes in the Stock Market, where it does no good to anybody else.

    In fact, Stock Market bubbles form on a regular basis when the taxes on the 1% are low.

    President Harding lowered taxes on the 1%, and the Stock Market went wild. Regular people decided to put their Retirement Savings in the Stock Market.

    And everybody thought they'd be rich and retire early.

    Then the Stock Market Crashed, about seven years after the Harding Tax Cut.

    All the money didn't vanish; it was swept into the pockets of the Traders that had been selling short. THEY became VERY RICH.

    Everybody else suffered. Businesses closed. Two years later, the Banks collapsed, because Hoover decided to cut spending and do NOTHING.

    Breadlines, soup kitchens, people starving. We passed Laws preventing the Banks from playing with Depositor's money.

    And the top tax rate was RAISED to 91%, until JFK closed a lot of loopholes and lowered it to 74%.

    Reagan cut taxes, over and over, until the top Tax Rate was 28%.

    But he RAISED the Capital Gains tax rate.

    So while we did get a Stock Bubble, it wasn't quite as bad when it burst in 1987. That, and we had banking regulations that protected people's savings. It was, essentially, the first Bailout.

    And then Clinton somehow managed to RAISE the top bracket to 39.6%.

    Newt Gingrich shouted that this would cause a Depression.

    No... it caused Prosperity.

    It moderated the Stock Market a bit. Lower Defense Spending also made it possible, with the extra Revenue, to Balance the Budget two years running.

    We were on track to paying down the Debt.

    Then of course, the Supreme Court appointed G.W. Bush President.

    And he lowered taxes on the 1%.

    Funny thing. About eight years later... the Stock Market Crashed and burned.

    The laws protecting people had been repealed. Trillions of dollars vanished instantly into the pockets of short-sellers. Retirement accounts were just... gone.

    So, that's THREE times that cutting the taxes on the 1% have crashed the Stock Market in the last Century.

    And what is the presumptive Republican Nominee promising to do if elected?

    Cut taxes on the 1%.
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  • Jkirk3279 OPOA912 2012/08/05 01:05:19
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    +1
    This is proof you are deluded.

    The Economy did not crash under Obama's Presidency. It crashed under the Presidency of G.W. Bush.

    I guarantee you, if I were earning $250,000 a year, I'd be rich. I spend very little on clothing, transportation, and food. In a mere five years I'd have a million dollars in the bank.
  • Transqu... Jkirk3279 2012/08/05 01:17:24
    Transquesta
    Ahem. "Proof" he's deluded? I must be missing something--you know, like proof of anything? As far as I'm concerned this whole issue of 'rich' is a red herring. If we MUST tax income (as it seems we do considering that nobody wants to discuss the fifty-some odd ways of generating revenue WITHOUT mass enslavement), then how 'bout let's do it equitably? Everybody pays twenty (or X) percent of their income, no deductions no excuses? Run a lemonade stand? Twenty percent of your profits go to Uncle. Run a multi-billion dollar (private) corporation? Twenty percent of your profits go to Uncle.

    But NO! We don't wanna do that! How would our masters lead the dumbass masses around by the nose if they didn't have a way to pit one class of Americans against the other?

    This whole conversation is starting to stimulate my gag reflex, and I frikkin' started it. :-)
  • Peggy 2012/08/03 12:36:02
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    Peggy
    +2
    Rich is being content with what you have, having a job that pays the bills, health that is good and allows you to do your job, family and friends in the good and bad times.
  • Daniel O'Hern 2012/08/03 11:49:31
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    Daniel O'Hern
    +1
    Rich is not worrying about money and loving what you do to make it. Rich is when u can give ur kids 100 million each and not pay one dime in gift tax because u wrote the law
    To get away with it (Romney) don't believe me look it up
  • kurtanderson1 2012/08/03 11:29:17
    'Rich' is having X amount of money (find for X :-) ).
    kurtanderson1
    +1
    10 million dollars or more.....
  • shadow76 2012/08/03 08:11:54
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    shadow76
    +2
    George Soros. MultiBillionairs
  • ChiTownGirl 2012/08/03 07:30:50
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    ChiTownGirl
    +2
    Rich to me, in the monetary sense, is having millions, wealthy is being a billionaire, but rich with love is the best!!!

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