Was the Bible the most important Book ever written ?
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Jesferkicks 2013/02/28 02:50:14no
+15Not if you're Hindu, Agnostic, Chinese Folk, Buddhist, Atheist, Shinto, Sikh, Jew, Spirit, Bab, Tao, Confucius, Jansenist, or Islamic.
Islamic countries dangerous for gays
Published on Wednesday, 04 April 2012 06:43 Canadian Atheist
Written by John Draper
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Of the seven countries that impose the death penalty for homosexuality, all are Muslim. It's not always imposed but it's on their books - Muslims think being gay is as bad as being a murderer. There are some Christians who think the same but to be fair Christians have not crossed the line ,so far they haven't sentenced a gay to 500 lashes and 5 years in prison because of it - like they did in 2010 in Saudi Arabia. Some (like me) would view that as worse than a death penalty. Yet behind closed doors, Muslim countries are the same as anywhere else. The only difference is that they are risking their lives. The Economist reports that: In February last year, police in Bahrain arrested scores of men, mostly other Gulf nationals, at a "gay party". Iranian gay men are typically tried on other trumped-up charges. But in September last year three were executed specifically for homosexuality. (Lesbians in Muslim countries tend to have an easier time: in Iran they are sentenced to death only on the fourth conviction of Lesbianism.)
As Atheists we need to be fair about the difference between Islamic laws and current Christian laws and attitudes, if not we are in danger of losing credibility as a community.
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And sometimes this even comes from school officials and others in positions of authority. Not to mention the high rate of suicide in the gay community because of the torments that they suffer. Often that is from "Christian" bullying and Christians are opposed to anti-bullying laws. They want the right to terrorize gays and overweight people and Atheists and even other Christians.
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The problem with it is Bible is a pagan deity, then pagan Rome took Yahweh's name out of it and made it void of salvation, by putting pagan deity names to replace it.
The bible has caused more death and violence than it's prevented.
You're all tools to a set of fairy tales and set of golden rules. Those golden rules are everywhere, and ought to simply be upheld without guidance from some book. Stop just picking and choosing your verses that make it seem insightful, and inspiring, and take the good with the bad, or drop it altogether.
You're so devoted, so live by it to a T.
Its lead to the founding social ideals and constricted norms of those times, and, throughout time, built into the social norms that are currently in place today (at least, it's lead to the country's current state of social norms). If anything; progressive ideals towards tolerance and understanding of all people, has lead to how forgiving and accepting our country has become. If religion had never existed, many, many people would still be alive, plenty others dead, but we'd have advanced our understanding of the world by a thousand years. Not to mention; we'd have simply taken from the basic, "golden rules" which, in reality, are basic, common, freaking, sense.
So, no, I'm not some tool, blindly believing all that I hear from anti-religious puss-buckets, needlessly hating on the believers themselves. I hate religion itself, because it's full of holes, it's brought nothing but pain, suffering, and moral justification for murder, abuse, rape, and the mistreatment and enslavement of others.
I sincerely respect another person's right to believe what they like, I just hate people on a personal level when they attack others under the guise of being religiously (and therefore, morally) justified.
To reiterate, you're a tool for thinking that you weren't lucky to be born in a country that is primarily Christian. You think it's coincidence that mostly Christian nations are the most tolerant?
As I explained in another comment on this very page, if religion was never created people would have never found a common ground to work upon, thus civilization would have never gained footing. Historians tend to favor this view, so who are you to think otherwise?
Got to say, I particularly love how you claim the "golden rules" are "basic, common, freaking, sense." Says who, exactly? For one, I know nature doesn't.
Also; I do, I just haven't been to that part of the world.
No, I'm unlucky to be born into a WORLD where the religious beliefs of others have been (and continue to be) imposed on me since birth, where others condemn me for who I am and what I believe.
Key word, "mostly". Despite the headway Christians have made in terms of social progress, we still see TGLBO youth being thrown out onto the streets, beaten, abused, discriminated against, and even murdered, simply for being people born different than the cisgender, heterosexual. So yes, this, and other nations primarily rooted in Christianity, are more lenient. But there is still a grand amount of bigotry harbored by these people, because they are clouded by bible verses, telling them to abandon us as people.
People got along just fine before religion.
Disregarding that, taking the historian's point of view; religion gave people an excuse love thy neighbor, so long as they believed in the same god, and followed the same guidelines.
A historian is a person, and so am I. They speculate over the POSSIBLE outcomes, and the re...
Also; I do, I just haven't been to that part of the world.
No, I'm unlucky to be born into a WORLD where the religious beliefs of others have been (and continue to be) imposed on me since birth, where others condemn me for who I am and what I believe.
Key word, "mostly". Despite the headway Christians have made in terms of social progress, we still see TGLBO youth being thrown out onto the streets, beaten, abused, discriminated against, and even murdered, simply for being people born different than the cisgender, heterosexual. So yes, this, and other nations primarily rooted in Christianity, are more lenient. But there is still a grand amount of bigotry harbored by these people, because they are clouded by bible verses, telling them to abandon us as people.
People got along just fine before religion.
Disregarding that, taking the historian's point of view; religion gave people an excuse love thy neighbor, so long as they believed in the same god, and followed the same guidelines.
A historian is a person, and so am I. They speculate over the POSSIBLE outcomes, and the reasons for the current state of affairs. I'm speculating, just as they are, but; no one can deny the millions religion has killed due to its existence. Its presence in history has spurred art, literature, and kindness, but it's also spurred the glorification of death, the fear of consequence, and the convenient, grey, arbitrary classifications of god's will and the devil's.
Overall, religion perpetuates more hate than it does kindness, and the only thing one ought to abide by coming from those books is; the golden rules.
Actually; humans are born with the ability to feel empathy and sympathy. Look it up under, "neuroscience; feeling empathy". So, yeah, communities easily developed before religion, and people lived according to the idea that; you do not wrong another, because you would not want the same to happen to you.
you reply GET REAL so tell me what your reply means??
Therefore, (though I disagree) it is absolutely possible that 45 of the 46 differing versions, you have claimed, are false leaving one to be the truth. Simple logic!
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHERE DO YOU GET THE IDEA THAT THE BIBLE WE READ TODAY, TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH IS FALSE? NO ONE CLAIMS IS IT WITHOUT ERROR, BUT MANS ERROR DOESN'T DEMAND TAT TRUTH IS LOST.