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Was the Bible the most important Book ever written ?

CAPISCE 2013/02/28 01:45:54
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  • Jesferkicks 2013/02/28 02:50:14
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    Jesferkicks
    +15
    Not if you're Hindu, Agnostic, Chinese Folk, Buddhist, Atheist, Shinto, Sikh, Jew, Spirit, Bab, Tao, Confucius, Jansenist, or Islamic.

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  • vicki Adams Sloane 2013/03/06 07:15:56
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  • What'sIT 2013/03/03 21:22:00
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    What'sIT
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    It has been more of a force for sharpening peoples hatred toward gays and people of other religions than it has been to to create love,. or even a basic sense of decency.
    x rated bible
  • CAPISCE What'sIT 2013/03/03 23:14:16
    CAPISCE
    +1
    The question was about the Bible not the Koran.
    Islamic countries dangerous for gays

    Published on Wednesday, 04 April 2012 06:43 Canadian Atheist
    Written by John Draper
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    Of the seven countries that impose the death penalty for homosexuality, all are Muslim. It's not always imposed but it's on their books - Muslims think being gay is as bad as being a murderer. There are some Christians who think the same but to be fair Christians have not crossed the line ,so far they haven't sentenced a gay to 500 lashes and 5 years in prison because of it - like they did in 2010 in Saudi Arabia. Some (like me) would view that as worse than a death penalty. Yet behind closed doors, Muslim countries are the same as anywhere else. The only difference is that they are risking their lives. The Economist reports that: In February last year, police in Bahrain arrested scores of men, mostly other Gulf nationals, at a "gay party". Iranian gay men are typically tried on other trumped-up charges. But in September last year three were executed specifically for homosexuality. (Lesbians in Muslim countries tend to have an easier time: in Iran they are sentenced to death only on the fourth conviction of Lesbianism.)
    As Atheists we need to be fair about the difference between Islamic laws and current Christian laws and attitudes, if not we are in danger of losing credibility as a community.
  • What'sIT CAPISCE 2013/03/04 00:51:39
    What'sIT
    +1
    There is just as much hatred and torture of gays in the United States (and even murder).
    http://www.baywindows.com/hrc...
    And sometimes this even comes from school officials and others in positions of authority. Not to mention the high rate of suicide in the gay community because of the torments that they suffer. Often that is from "Christian" bullying and Christians are opposed to anti-bullying laws. They want the right to terrorize gays and overweight people and Atheists and even other Christians.

    clint McCance
  • CAPISCE What'sIT 2013/03/04 13:05:43 (edited)
    CAPISCE
    +1
    That is absurd--The words and actions of individuals claiming to be Christians is not the same as institutional beheadings and stonings.
    Wow
  • polo CAPISCE 2013/08/09 11:26:26
    polo
    What are the similarities between the Bible and the Quran and where do their messages differ?

    The Quran and the Bible

    What are the similarities between the Bible and the Quran and where do their messages differ? The most important similarity is that the both say that it exists only one God and He has created the heaven and the earth. The most remarkable difference concerns who Jesus the Nazarene is and how man is saved from the judgment of God.
    The Scriptures witness for God
    In some cases the Quran says almost in the same way as the Bible. In many cases the Bible says the opposite of the Quran. In the same way as your tongue can test the taste of foods your spirit can test the messages. So compare and test the spirits of these messages.

    Creation
    The Quran: "Praise be to God, who created the heavens and the earth, and made the darkness and the light." Quran 6:1

    The Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Ge.1:1

    The one God
    The Quran: "Your god is one god; there is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful." Quran 2:163 "Say, 'O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except God; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside God.'" Quran 3:64

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    What are the similarities between the Bible and the Quran and where do their messages differ?

    The Quran and the Bible

    What are the similarities between the Bible and the Quran and where do their messages differ? The most important similarity is that the both say that it exists only one God and He has created the heaven and the earth. The most remarkable difference concerns who Jesus the Nazarene is and how man is saved from the judgment of God.
    The Scriptures witness for God
    In some cases the Quran says almost in the same way as the Bible. In many cases the Bible says the opposite of the Quran. In the same way as your tongue can test the taste of foods your spirit can test the messages. So compare and test the spirits of these messages.

    Creation
    The Quran: "Praise be to God, who created the heavens and the earth, and made the darkness and the light." Quran 6:1

    The Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Ge.1:1

    The one God
    The Quran: "Your god is one god; there is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful." Quran 2:163 "Say, 'O followers of the scripture, let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except God; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside God.'" Quran 3:64

    The Bible: "Jesus answered him: 'The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one'." Mr.12:29 Jesus said: "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve." Mt.4:10 Apostle Paul said: "We know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one." 1Co.8:4

    Who gets grace from God?
    The Quran: "Repentance is acceptable by God from those who fall in sin out of ignorance, then repent immediately thereafter." Quran 4:17

    The Bible: "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble." Jas.4:6

    The book says about itself
    The Quran: "The book is, without a doubt, a revelation from the Lord of the universe."Quran 32:1 "We have cited for the people every kind of example in this Quran, that they may take heed. An Arabic Quran, without any ambiguity, that they may be righteous."Quran 39:27-28

    The Bible: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." 2Pe.1:20,21

    Muhammad and Jesus
    The Quran: "You shall believe in God and His messengers. You shall not say, 'Trinity.' You shall refrain from this for your own good. God is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son." Quran 4:171 "Pagans indeed are those who say that God is the Messiah, son of Mary." Quran 5:72 "Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of God and the final prophet." Quran 33:40

    The Bible: "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?" Joh.10:35-36 Jesus says: "If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on my own authority." Joh.7:17

    The atonement of sins and getting forgiveness
    The Quran: "If you refrain from committing the gross sins that are prohibited for you, we will remit your sins, and admit you an honorable admittance." Quran 4:31 "Proclaim: 'If you love God, you should follow me.' God will then love you, and forgive your sins."Quran 3:31

    The Bible: "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Joh.3:16 "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins." 1Jo.4:10 "We love Him because He first loved us." 1Jo.4:19

    How are we saved?
    The Quran: "O you who believe, let Me inform you of a trade that will save you from painful retribution. Believe in God and His messenger and strive in the cause of God with your money and your lives. This is the best deal for you, if you only knew. In return, He forgives your sins, and admits you into gardens with flowing streams, with beautiful mansions in the gardens of Eden. This is the greatest triumph." Quran 61:10-12

    The Bible: "For by grace you have been saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." Eph.2:8-9 "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus (= God) and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Ro.10:9-10

    Good deeds
    The Quran: "If you declare your charities, they are still good. But if you keep them anonymous, and give them to the poor, it is better for you, and remits more of your sins." Quran 2:271

    The Bible: "But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly." Mt.6:3-4

    Revenge
    The Quran: "O you who believe, equivalence is the law decreed for you when dealing with murder..." Quran 2:178 "Equivalence is a life saving law for you." Quran 2:179 "And if you punish, you shall inflict an equivalent punishment. But if you resort to patience (instead of revenge), it would be better for the patient ones." Quran 16:126

    The Bible: "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'. But I tell you not to resist an evil person." Mt.5:38-42 "Do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, 'Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord'." Ro.12:19

    War
    The Quran: "You may fight in the cause of God against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors. You may kill those who wage war against you, ..." Quran 2:190-191 "Unless these people leave you alone, offer you peace, and stop fighting you, you may fight them when you encounter them. Against these, we give you a clear authorization." Quran 4:91 "Those who readily fight in the cause of God are those who forsake this world in favor of the Hereafter. Whoever fights in the cause of God, then gets killed, or attains victory, we will surely grant him a great recompense."Quran 4:74

    The Bible: "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you."Mt.5:44 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other also. And from him takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either." Lu.6:27-29 "Jesus said to him: 'Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword." Mt.26:52

    Divorce
    The Quran: "Those who intend to divorce their wives shall wait four months; if they change their minds and reconcile, then God is Forgiver, Merciful. If they go through with the divorce, then God is Hearer, Knower. The divorced women shall wait three menstruations." Quran 2:226-228

    The Bible: "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery." Lu.16:18 "A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes." 1Co.7:39

    Treatment of a woman
    The Quran: "If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then deserting them in bed, then you may beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them." Quran 4:34

    The Bible: "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her." Eph.5:25

    Hell
    The Quran: "Surely, those who disbelieve in our revelations, we will condemn them to the hellfire. Whenever their skins are burnt, we will give them new skins. Thus, they will suffer continuously." Quran 4:56

    The Bible: "And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire." Re.20:15 "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Re.21:8

    Heaven
    The Quran: "As for those who believe and lead a righteous life - we never burden any soul beyond its means - these will be the dwellers of Paradise. They abide in it forever. We will remove all jealousy from their hearts. Rivers will flow beneath them, and they will say, 'God be praised for guiding us. We could not possibly be guided, if it were not that God has guided us. The messengers of our Lord did bring the truth.' They will be called: 'This is your Paradise. You have inherited it, in return for your works.'" Quran 7:42-43

    The Bible: "There shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. And he showed me the river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads." Re.21:27-22:1-4

    Muhammad or the apostles of Jesus
    Muhammad disbelieves the two great truths of the Bible's Jesus: Jesus is the Son of God and only His atoning sacrifice opens for us the acceptance of God.

    The apostles of Jesus have written for us the teachings of Jesus, which are conflicting with the teachings of Muhammad. Who tells the truth? Isn't it easier to trust in the apostles who lived together with Jesus than to trust in Muhammad who lived 600 years later? Either Muhammad lies or the Apostles, but the both cannot be the witnesses of the same God.

    If you are a Muslim, I urge you to appeal to Jesus of the Bible. You can get theforgiveness of your sins only from Him, because only He can pay to God the wages of your sins. If you hold on to the good and give up the bad, one day you will confess that Jesus is your Lord.

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  • SIMPATTYCO 2013/03/03 17:18:39
    no
    SIMPATTYCO
    +1
    ONE OF MANY
  • Zippcodey 2013/03/03 14:25:43
    Yes
    Zippcodey
    +1
    It's the most sold and the most stolen.

    The problem with it is Bible is a pagan deity, then pagan Rome took Yahweh's name out of it and made it void of salvation, by putting pagan deity names to replace it.
  • Austin 2013/03/03 03:00:37
    Yes
    Austin
    +1
    Since there can't be the most important since it's subjective, I answered in terms of # of copies and its impact on world history. It is inarguably the most printed book ever and arguably has had the most impact (which I say only because that is also subjective).
  • izzybean Austin 2013/03/06 19:43:24
    izzybean
    It is also the source of some of the oldest written word. It has also been proven to be historically accurate. If importance means oldest and historically correct then yes
  • Leona Hill 2013/03/02 16:54:06
    no
    Leona Hill
    The Bible is a very important book, and Christians would agree that it is the most important. But other religions would have every right to disagree. Clearly, the Muslims would agree that the Quran/Koran is the most important book. I can't be absolutely sure, but I suspect that the Mormons may think that the Book of Mormon is the most important book or at least as important as the Bible.
  • CAPISCE Leona Hill 2013/03/03 03:19:30
    CAPISCE
    Fair enough
  • Amber 2013/03/02 08:59:12
    Yes
    Amber
    +5
    Arguably, it has shaped the world more than any other book in human history. Civilizations have been razed in the name of it, and new ones have been built on the ashes of the old. It's influenced "morality" and human thought for centuries. It will probably continue to do so for generations to come. Some of us may not like it, but it's true.
  • Whitese7en 2013/03/02 03:30:02
    Yes
    Whitese7en
    +3
    Without question!!
  • Mary Mary 2013/03/01 23:42:54
  • CAPISCE Mary Mary 2013/03/03 14:09:18
    CAPISCE
    +1
    Very important book for whores
  • Mary Mary CAPISCE 2013/03/03 14:12:14
    Mary Mary
    Actually is a great book for enhancing marriages. I am hardly a whore, I'm a mother of 3 beautiful boys a grandmother of 2 beautiful children and a very loving wife to my husband.
  • CAPISCE Mary Mary 2013/03/03 14:13:42
    CAPISCE
    Was not referring to you in particular.
  • Mary Mary CAPISCE 2013/03/03 14:19:18
    Mary Mary
    I read it early in my marriage. I wasn't a whore then either. After all it's what god put us on earth to do. Multiply.
  • CAPISCE Mary Mary 2013/03/03 14:21:39
    CAPISCE
    I'm not sure how to reply other than my last post
  • Mary Mary CAPISCE 2013/03/03 14:35:45
    Mary Mary
    +1
    Thanks ok. :-)
  • Kidasha 2013/03/01 19:06:28
    no
    Kidasha
    not at all
  • Sakura Uchiha 2013/03/01 16:53:59 (edited)
    no
    Sakura Uchiha
    +1
    No but it is the most influental , but it is one of the most dangerest book ever.
  • Cochise 2013/03/01 14:35:16
    Yes
    Cochise
    +2
    For me, yes. I am a Christian, and I believe in God's words and Christ's deeds. The Bible tells me there is Heaven to look forward to, after the Hell I'm catching here on earth. I believe that to be fact. It may be a gamble, but I'm living a good life, and loving my neighbor, and taking a gamble that this is true. The unknown is too risky to NOT take a chance on being re-united with my loved ones. I believe our purpose for being born, was to be able to enter the Kingdom of God. Not to just exist here on earth, and die, and rot away. The Bible has given me so much to look forward to, so it is the most important book ever written..
  • DesertBloomDenier 2013/03/01 14:15:51
    no
    DesertBloomDenier
    +1
    Nope not if you consider how many people have died in unnecessary wars and conflicts for that so called Holy book.
  • Cochise DesertB... 2013/03/01 14:38:22
    Cochise
    But if they believed in God, they are only resting now. It's a gamble for some, but if the Bible's teaching is true, then they will NOT have died for nothing. Better start reading and believing, what do you have to lose?
  • Jesferk... Cochise 2013/03/19 12:14:28
    Jesferkicks
    The "what do you have to lose?" is common sense.
  • CAPISCE DesertB... 2013/03/02 14:53:51
    CAPISCE
    Stupid Human interpretation and manipulation
  • Austin DesertB... 2013/03/03 03:01:45
    Austin
    blah blah blah
  • Diary of a Madman 2013/03/01 13:16:21
    no
    Diary of a Madman
    +2
    Great lifestyle guide but used for evil purposes by politicians; folks like Constantine and the Popes.
  • ziad 2013/03/01 13:14:41
    no
    ziad
    no
  • "SennaKoshiba" 2013/03/01 10:02:06
    no
    "SennaKoshiba"
    +2
    "Important"? No. "Prominent"? Yes.
    The bible has caused more death and violence than it's prevented.

    You're all tools to a set of fairy tales and set of golden rules. Those golden rules are everywhere, and ought to simply be upheld without guidance from some book. Stop just picking and choosing your verses that make it seem insightful, and inspiring, and take the good with the bad, or drop it altogether.
    You're so devoted, so live by it to a T.
  • Austin "SennaK... 2013/03/03 03:03:57 (edited)
    Austin
    +1
    I'm not religious, nor do I necessarily believe in a "God", but you're a tool for believing that Christianity, and by extension The Bible, has not made the country in which you live one of the more tolerable/tolerant in world history. As you said, you can't pick and choose.
  • "SennaK... Austin 2013/03/03 06:18:14
    "SennaKoshiba"
    Pfft-ahahahahaha!! XD
    Its lead to the founding social ideals and constricted norms of those times, and, throughout time, built into the social norms that are currently in place today (at least, it's lead to the country's current state of social norms). If anything; progressive ideals towards tolerance and understanding of all people, has lead to how forgiving and accepting our country has become. If religion had never existed, many, many people would still be alive, plenty others dead, but we'd have advanced our understanding of the world by a thousand years. Not to mention; we'd have simply taken from the basic, "golden rules" which, in reality, are basic, common, freaking, sense.

    So, no, I'm not some tool, blindly believing all that I hear from anti-religious puss-buckets, needlessly hating on the believers themselves. I hate religion itself, because it's full of holes, it's brought nothing but pain, suffering, and moral justification for murder, abuse, rape, and the mistreatment and enslavement of others.

    I sincerely respect another person's right to believe what they like, I just hate people on a personal level when they attack others under the guise of being religiously (and therefore, morally) justified.
  • Austin "SennaK... 2013/03/03 07:46:58 (edited)
    Austin
    +1
    OK, Ms. Progressive, go live in a country where Christianity isn't well practiced or wasn't the mainstay of public belief during its creation. I would say all those Muslim women I saw covered in black in 100° temps are happy, but the thing is, I never saw their faces. That's called "real world experience", do you have any?

    To reiterate, you're a tool for thinking that you weren't lucky to be born in a country that is primarily Christian. You think it's coincidence that mostly Christian nations are the most tolerant?

    As I explained in another comment on this very page, if religion was never created people would have never found a common ground to work upon, thus civilization would have never gained footing. Historians tend to favor this view, so who are you to think otherwise?

    Got to say, I particularly love how you claim the "golden rules" are "basic, common, freaking, sense." Says who, exactly? For one, I know nature doesn't.
  • "SennaK... Austin 2013/03/03 08:15:07
    "SennaKoshiba"
    Your point? Your experiences have only given me more credibility. Religion is a tool for men to be important, and to have others subservient to them. Those that don't believe are blasphemers that deserve death.
    Also; I do, I just haven't been to that part of the world.

    No, I'm unlucky to be born into a WORLD where the religious beliefs of others have been (and continue to be) imposed on me since birth, where others condemn me for who I am and what I believe.
    Key word, "mostly". Despite the headway Christians have made in terms of social progress, we still see TGLBO youth being thrown out onto the streets, beaten, abused, discriminated against, and even murdered, simply for being people born different than the cisgender, heterosexual. So yes, this, and other nations primarily rooted in Christianity, are more lenient. But there is still a grand amount of bigotry harbored by these people, because they are clouded by bible verses, telling them to abandon us as people.

    People got along just fine before religion.
    Disregarding that, taking the historian's point of view; religion gave people an excuse love thy neighbor, so long as they believed in the same god, and followed the same guidelines.
    A historian is a person, and so am I. They speculate over the POSSIBLE outcomes, and the re...


    Your point? Your experiences have only given me more credibility. Religion is a tool for men to be important, and to have others subservient to them. Those that don't believe are blasphemers that deserve death.
    Also; I do, I just haven't been to that part of the world.

    No, I'm unlucky to be born into a WORLD where the religious beliefs of others have been (and continue to be) imposed on me since birth, where others condemn me for who I am and what I believe.
    Key word, "mostly". Despite the headway Christians have made in terms of social progress, we still see TGLBO youth being thrown out onto the streets, beaten, abused, discriminated against, and even murdered, simply for being people born different than the cisgender, heterosexual. So yes, this, and other nations primarily rooted in Christianity, are more lenient. But there is still a grand amount of bigotry harbored by these people, because they are clouded by bible verses, telling them to abandon us as people.

    People got along just fine before religion.
    Disregarding that, taking the historian's point of view; religion gave people an excuse love thy neighbor, so long as they believed in the same god, and followed the same guidelines.
    A historian is a person, and so am I. They speculate over the POSSIBLE outcomes, and the reasons for the current state of affairs. I'm speculating, just as they are, but; no one can deny the millions religion has killed due to its existence. Its presence in history has spurred art, literature, and kindness, but it's also spurred the glorification of death, the fear of consequence, and the convenient, grey, arbitrary classifications of god's will and the devil's.
    Overall, religion perpetuates more hate than it does kindness, and the only thing one ought to abide by coming from those books is; the golden rules.

    Actually; humans are born with the ability to feel empathy and sympathy. Look it up under, "neuroscience; feeling empathy". So, yeah, communities easily developed before religion, and people lived according to the idea that; you do not wrong another, because you would not want the same to happen to you.
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  • seance 2013/03/01 04:23:33
    Yes
    seance
    you said BIBLE but which one are you referring to!!!!!
  • CAPISCE seance 2013/03/03 03:09:57
    CAPISCE
    +1
    Get real
  • seance CAPISCE 2013/03/03 06:01:02 (edited)
    seance
    i answer YES and then ask which one.
    you reply GET REAL so tell me what your reply means??
  • WGN seance 2013/03/03 03:30:28
    WGN
    +1
    Yes, which one? There are currently about 46 different versions in print. Since they all differ, then not one of them can be totally true.
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