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brother Allie 2012/05/23 14:26:53
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I recently came across this info and it led me to ask the question was jesus black
In a recent conversation, a friend casually said to me, “Well, you know Jesus was black, don’t you?” Needless to say, this led to a long conversation.

I researched this over 15 years ago, and did find that there is sufficient Biblical evidence to say that Jesus was indeed of mixed ancestry, including African. But whether or not that makes him “black” depends on whose definition you use.

Many have heard of the “black Madonna” and believe that to be a carryover from when everyone believed Jesus had African ancestors in his lineage. But that’s not “proof,” anymore than we can say it’s “proof” that Santa Claus is black because we saw a black Santa Claus last Christmas in Harlem.

Where is the proof? I have actually seen Old Testament quotes used to “prove” that Jesus was black. But you can’t use Old Testament quotes for proof, since those quotes were written before Jesus was born!

And you really can’t rely on the book of Daniel or the book of Revelation for proof of Jesus’ African ancestry either since those books are highly symbolic and prophetic and subject to diverse interpretations.

Many of the Old Testament quotes that are used to “prove” that Jesus is black are King James translations, and if you read from another Bible translation – such as the Lamsa Bible translated out of the Aramaic – there would be no “evidence” whatsoever there to suggest anything about Jesus being black.

The key to Jesus’ ancestry is to look at the genealogies listed in the Bible, specifically Luke 3: 23-31, and Matthew 1:1-17. Note carefully that most such lineages list only the male line, but there in these lineages (both a bit different, by the way), we are told of at least four of the women in Jesus’ genealogical line. These are Rehab, Ruth, Tamar, and Bathsheba. Rehab (also spelled Rahab) was a Canaanite. Tamar was probably a Canaanite. Bethsheba, often referred to as a Hittite, was more likely Japhethic, that is, not a descendant of Ham. (However, this is not clear). Ruth was in the line of Ham.

Now, who was Ham? Who were the Canaanites and Hittites?

According to Genesis 9:19, all mankind descended from Noah’s three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth as they spread throughout the world. Ham’s descendants became the black people who settled in Africa, and parts of the Arabian peninsula. His sons were Cush, whose descendants settled in Ethiopia, Mizraim, whose descendants settled in Egypt, Put, whose descendants settled in Libya, and Canaan, whose descendants settled in Palestine. The descendants of Cush were the main populace of the Cushite Empire, which extended from western Libya to Ethiopia and Nubia, all of present day Egypt, and the Arabian peninsula into the mountains of Turkey. They spoke several languages and had skin pigmentation ranging from dark black to medium brown.

It takes a bit of study to ascertain who these people were – and there were other possible African women in Jesus’ lineage as well – but, in general, when we are speaking of Cushites, Canaanites, descendants of Ham, etc., we are speaking of Africans. It is entirely possible that this wasn’t a big deal when the scriptures were written since Jesus’ racial background would have been regarded as common knowledge.

Still, nowhere in the Scriptures can one find definitive descriptions of Jesus’ ethnicity or physical appearance. It just isn’t there. But the clues are there. He was obviously a Jewish rabbi, trained in the Jewish ways, whose background included people from all parts of the known world at that time.

Was Jesus black? It all depends upon how you define “black.” He was clearly a cosmopolitan man.
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  • Insert Vaguely Clever Name ... 2012/06/01 23:39:50 (edited)
    no
    Insert Vaguely Clever Name Here
    +4
    if jesus was real he likely would have looked like this

    what jesus would have looked like

    this is what an average adult Jewish male would have looked like living in that time period. not black, but certainly not white

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  • charles nelson 2012/09/10 16:00:51
    no
    charles nelson
    Is Semitic black? He sure wasn't a northern european.
  • Yisra el 2012/09/08 20:39:20
    yes
    Yisra el
    +1
    First, of all let's debunk this whole "jeZEUSE" name. You have to know that the Hebrew language doesn't have the letter j in it, also the letter j was around 500 years ago. Next the contenant that you call Africa (which was named after a brittish war general) was populated by for the sake of conversation "black people" because black is NOT a race it is a color, anyway. This automatically shoots down the theory that he was european; based on the definition for "white" I choose to use the region because the definition charateristics don't allign with the european people. Once again, back to the subject- if the so called "white/european" race gets sunburn in in the chicago-florida and any other hot summer city in this country, we know there is no way they could have come from "africa" Next and this is KEY in Exodus4:6 Yahweh asked Moshe/Moses to place his hand in his busom and when he pulled it out, it what white, when he asked him to return his hand to his busom, it was 'black" like the rest of his skin. Now if having your hand turned white was seen as a Mericle....how could he have been european/white? As amatter of fact throughout the bible you read mainly in the book of leviticus that to be white was a sign of uncleanliness or as a punishment (leprosy) clean and unclean. O...

    First, of all let's debunk this whole "jeZEUSE" name. You have to know that the Hebrew language doesn't have the letter j in it, also the letter j was around 500 years ago. Next the contenant that you call Africa (which was named after a brittish war general) was populated by for the sake of conversation "black people" because black is NOT a race it is a color, anyway. This automatically shoots down the theory that he was european; based on the definition for "white" I choose to use the region because the definition charateristics don't allign with the european people. Once again, back to the subject- if the so called "white/european" race gets sunburn in in the chicago-florida and any other hot summer city in this country, we know there is no way they could have come from "africa" Next and this is KEY in Exodus4:6 Yahweh asked Moshe/Moses to place his hand in his busom and when he pulled it out, it what white, when he asked him to return his hand to his busom, it was 'black" like the rest of his skin. Now if having your hand turned white was seen as a Mericle....how could he have been european/white? As amatter of fact throughout the bible you read mainly in the book of leviticus that to be white was a sign of uncleanliness or as a punishment (leprosy) clean and unclean. Once again, proof that the people of the bible the world see as jews were not white/european. You may also look to the book of Revelations3:9 Yahweh refers to those people claiming to be jews as the synagogue of satan, and once again I apologize for getting side tracked.

    If you can I recmmend taking a look at this book Yahushua The Black Messiah, ISBN# 978-0-9825080-9-1. In this book you see pics of John Pope II looking at a picture of a "black" baby Yahshua (not jeZEUSE) and his mother, yet they place these pics of blond hair blue eyed anglo saxon..there's more information I could've shared, but I am at work supposedly doing overtime.
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  • Brosia 2012/09/08 20:32:40
    no
    Brosia
    He was lighter, as he was of Middle Eastern decent. All the pics of Jesus being white is wishful thinking.
  • captainquiggle 2012/09/08 20:22:03
    yes
    captainquiggle
    +2
    If we are talking about what he would be in the USA, he'd be BLACK. One must remember that European Jews and the Jews of the bible are two different things. One must also remember that the Jews of the bible could easily pass for other northern Africans as is told a few times in the bible.

    Anyone thinking that Jesus was white is a holdover from some racist, backwater town.

    Remember, in America, if it's not white-- it's black.
  • Yisra el captain... 2012/09/08 20:54:03
    Yisra el
    +3
    PREACH!!!!!!!!!!! I concur.
  • Chris -... captain... 2012/09/09 10:54:34
  • captain... Chris -... 2012/09/09 14:39:21
    captainquiggle
    So, are you saying that Jesus would be considered White in America? Hardly. Enjoy your delusions.
  • Chris -... captain... 2012/09/09 15:10:17
  • captain... Chris -... 2012/09/09 15:22:46
    captainquiggle
    +1
    LOL. You folks?

    So, we both agree he was nowhere near white. Remember the "one drop rule" that decides who's black and who isn't in America? Yeah... Jesus would be black by that rule.

    Why would you deny that?
  • Chris -... captain... 2012/09/09 15:32:14
  • captain... Chris -... 2012/09/09 15:43:15
    captainquiggle
    I'm answering the topic question. Simple answer, really.
  • Chris -... captain... 2012/09/10 12:12:20
  • Mungu 2012/09/08 19:41:49
    no
    Mungu
    +2
    This question is silly, everyone knows he was Irish.

    Well................Black Irish.
  • charles... Mungu 2012/09/10 16:04:08
    charles nelson
    It's true
  • Shadow13 2012/09/08 18:15:40
    yes
    Shadow13
    +1


    Really? Who really cares, does it make any difference whatsoever?
  • Yisra el Shadow13 2012/09/08 20:59:03
    Yisra el
    +4
    If it didn't matter why did they throw up the blonde hair blued eyed pics? YES IT MATTERS. Because to change a person's name, and heritage beliefs, customs is a crime ie what amerikkka and other countries have done to the 'so called" black people. And FYI black is not a race of people it is a color. We are Hebrew Ysraelites, the LOST TRIBE of Ysra el.
  • Shadow13 Yisra el 2012/09/09 03:24:53
    Shadow13
    Race is a figment of the social imagination. Whose only basis in this world is the degree of melanin in the skin, a trait just as significant as shoe size or height.

    It is pointless really to argue about what color he was. Jesus was not divine, or some other ridiculous notion, he was a human being. He was a philosopher and a good one and I think he would be appalled at the very state of religion today. In his time he saw the problems withing the Jewish religion and advocated something different, something that got twisted just the same.

    The tribes of Israel where just a bunch of superstitious desert folk whose leaders decided to create a false history and deity to justify horrifying acts of genocide and wanton cruelty, that unfortunately wasn't crushed into the grave of the thousands of other dead gods.
  • tobe 2012/07/24 04:07:01
    no
    tobe
    +1
    he was middle eastern. He was born in jerusalem and after that they fled to Egypt.
  • Yisra el tobe 2012/09/08 21:03:20
    Yisra el
    +4
    He was not middle was not a region, it was coined that back in the 1940's, and Yahweh instructed Yoseph and Mariam to hide in Mitsriam known today as egypt because they would easily blend in with the people of that region. And in those times "egypt" was populated by "black" people. How could a "white" man and or baby hide there? egypt means land of the black people or land of black skin...look it up.
  • Chris -... Yisra el 2012/09/09 10:53:30 (edited)
  • charles... Chris -... 2012/09/10 16:15:52
    charles nelson
    That was 2000 years ago and everybody had slaves. Little different that 150 years ago.
  • Chris -... charles... 2012/09/10 18:34:17 (edited)
  • charles... Chris -... 2012/09/10 20:44:10
    charles nelson
    We all gottum
  • Chris -... charles... 2012/09/11 14:14:20
  • tblackb 2012/07/03 17:10:23
    yes
    tblackb
    +2
    if you read the description in the bible of him and of the people in the region where he was born and lived. they were people of darker skin
  • MlssCue... tblackb 2012/07/06 18:57:37
    MlssCue =Go Blue=
    +1
    True. Is it not John the Baptist (his cousin) whom is described as having coarse hair & dark skin?
  • tblackb MlssCue... 2012/07/06 23:43:07
    tblackb
    +1
    correct...there are only second and third had accounts of his physical appearance ( nothing scientific). the rest is based on what is know about John and the people in that region during the same time frame.
  • MlssCue... tblackb 2012/07/07 00:51:03
    MlssCue =Go Blue=
    +1
    Thought so, thank you.
  • MM_1985 2012/07/03 03:48:21
    no
    MM_1985
    +1
    i dont know but i think he is not totally black color
  • Yisra el MM_1985 2012/09/08 21:05:16
    Yisra el
    +2
    Yes he was and it is a scientific fact that all races spawned from the black race, which was the first race created.
  • MlssCue =Go Blue= 2012/07/03 03:35:24
    yes
    MlssCue =Go Blue=
    Maybe
  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/06/28 16:34:55
    no
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    I don't know. He lived in the middle east so he was certainly dark skinned.

    I know what he didn't look like. When I was a child I was given an illustrated children's Bible for 1st communion. There was a picture of Jesus rising from the water after being baptized. He was blonde haired, blue eyed, tanned, and very buff. He was like the Nazi version of Jesus. We still tease my mother about that Bible. LOL...
  • Chris -... Chris- ... 2012/09/09 10:52:15
  • Chris- ... Chris -... 2012/09/09 21:10:03
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Yes. It was very creepy when I look back on it. lol...
  • Chris -... Chris- ... 2012/09/10 12:13:33
  • Chris - The Rowdy One! #187 2012/06/28 11:46:42
  • Mungu Chris -... 2012/09/08 19:44:09
    Mungu
    +1
    hhhmmm, a Semite the color of sand

    semite
  • Yisra el Mungu 2012/09/08 21:06:06
    Yisra el
    +3
    LMAO!!!!!!! they don't see it.
  • Chris -... Yisra el 2012/09/09 10:51:35
  • Chris -... Mungu 2012/09/09 10:50:51

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