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Was Constantine the first use Christianity to control the masses?

bob 2012/01/06 17:14:48
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  • nightcrawler2005 2012/01/06 17:36:46
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    nightcrawler2005
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    He was the first to use Christianity to control the masses because Rome was the first country to declare Christianity the state religion.
    After him lots of Rulers have used Christianity to control the masses even to this day but that can be applied to most religions.

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  • sjalan 2012/01/08 03:01:23
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    NO I don't think so. If you will remember Nero fiddled while Rome Burned and he blamed it on the Christians. The Romans went after the Christians and nearly exterminated all of them that they were able to find.

    Most of the Christians that did survive hid in the catacombs under Rome.
  • Mandy 2012/01/07 15:38:39
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    Mandy
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    Constantine was one of many to use it to control the masses, but I couldn't say if he is the first. I have a hunch that in the three hundred years before Constantine's reign there were plenty of smaller scale leaders who used the gullibility of the masses to his or her benefit.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/01/07 09:57:54
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    Lady Whitewolf
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    Dunno if he was the first, but I wish that he had kept it the F*** to HIMSELF!
  • doreen.k.gray 2012/01/07 00:45:11
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    doreen.k.gray
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    He was not the first, as early as the Sanhedrin this was being done
  • Luckydog38 2012/01/06 22:28:59
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    Luckydog38
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    Constantine's story is much more broad than a conversion simply to control the masses. Even if this were the case....what does it say about the power of Christ if the Roman Leader (ruling a body that was the strongest in the world using it's accepted means for centuries) decided the best option in his day was to leave all that and go with a religion that the Romans had heretofore punished with tossing it's followers into the Roman Arena for games? As in many "Constantine posts" this is an oversimplification of what transpired on his conversion and his relationship with St. Helen.
  • santanasmooth 2012/01/06 20:50:46
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    santanasmooth
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    It wasn't the first but probably the most successful
  • Anna E 2012/01/06 19:28:07
    None of the above
    Anna E
    +1
    Jesus was (if he existed). His motive was to get people to conform to Biblical teachings.
  • Keen Tojones 2012/01/06 19:18:55
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    Keen Tojones
    +1
    Caligula used it to control them. In a fearsome way.
  • Chokmah 2012/01/06 19:13:12 (edited)
    Constantine did not use Christianity to control the masses
    Chokmah
    +3
    Constantine was a pagan and a politician and wanted peace within his Empire. Constantine called the Council of Nicea to quell religious infighting over scripture, dogma, etc.


    "Scholars debate whether Constantine adopted his mother St. Helena's Christianity in his youth, or whether he adopted it gradually over the course of his life.[202] Constantine would retain the title of pontifex maximus until his death, a title emperors bore as heads of the pagan priesthood, as would his Christian successors on to Gratian (r. 375–83). According to Christian writers, Constantine was over 40 when he finally declared himself a Christian, writing to Christians to make clear that he believed he owed his successes to the protection of the Christian High God alone.[203] Throughout his rule, Constantine supported the Church financially, built basilicas, granted privileges to clergy (e.g. exemption from certain taxes), promoted Christians to high office, and returned property confiscated during the Diocletianic persecution.[204] His most famous building projects include the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and Old Saint Peter's Basilica.

    Constantine did not patronize Christianity alone, however. After gaining victory in the Battle of the Milvian Bridge (312), a triumphal arch—the Arch of Constant...
    Constantine was a pagan and a politician and wanted peace within his Empire. Constantine called the Council of Nicea to quell religious infighting over scripture, dogma, etc.


    "Scholars debate whether Constantine adopted his mother St. Helena's Christianity in his youth, or whether he adopted it gradually over the course of his life.[202] Constantine would retain the title of pontifex maximus until his death, a title emperors bore as heads of the pagan priesthood, as would his Christian successors on to Gratian (r. 375–83). According to Christian writers, Constantine was over 40 when he finally declared himself a Christian, writing to Christians to make clear that he believed he owed his successes to the protection of the Christian High God alone.[203] Throughout his rule, Constantine supported the Church financially, built basilicas, granted privileges to clergy (e.g. exemption from certain taxes), promoted Christians to high office, and returned property confiscated during the Diocletianic persecution.[204] His most famous building projects include the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and Old Saint Peter's Basilica.

    Constantine did not patronize Christianity alone, however. After gaining victory in the Battle of the Milvian Bridge (312), a triumphal arch—the Arch of Constantine—was built (315) to celebrate it; the arch is decorated with images of Victoria and sacrifices to gods like Apollo, Diana, and Hercules, but contains no Christian symbolism." ~ Wikipedia
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  • 238leve... Chokmah 2013/12/08 00:39:32
    238levent .
    +1
    he accepted in his bed before dying,just to go to other side with lesser sins
  • seathanaich 2012/01/06 18:19:54
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    seathanaich
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    It's fair to say that Constantine was the first to use this particular religion to control the masses. His mother was the one who was actually the devout one. Like all people who establish religions, she was quite willing to lie in order to spread her religion, as evidenced by all the Christian churches she had built on existing Jewish and other non-Christian temples.
  • Chokmah seathan... 2012/01/06 21:38:50
    Chokmah
    Yes, and those Jewish and non-Christian temples were built on still earlier Temples of Babylonian, Canaanite, and Egyptian religions.
  • seathan... Chokmah 2012/01/06 22:53:28
    seathanaich
    +1
    Exactly. Either one religion replaces another over time, or else the same religion changes itself, adapting to survive. Fortunately, for the first time in human history, it's possible in some parts of the world to opt out of religion completely. Cheers.
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/01/06 17:46:38 (edited)
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    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    This question could be construed by some as being an outrageous statement...but Pagan rulers before Constantine used religion as one of their pillars of control of the masses for a millenia before.....from the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Sumeria...all rulers paid homage to Gods and of course the Egyptian pharoahs were actually living gods. In Europe that would evolve into Kings and Queens ruled by divine right...



    Constantine was actually a ruler that controlled the faith, rather than being controlled by the faith...nobody messed with Constantine...be they in robes or uniform...you questioned his authority at risk to your life...he was the supreme leader...why do you think the bishops showed up at Nicea in the first place? He didn't ask them to participate, he ordered them to participate and get results...
  • Burning Bright Embers 2012/01/06 17:43:59
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    Burning Bright Embers
    +2
    Indeed he was, and as nightcrawler has stated, started a trend that has continued to this day.
  • misterz 2012/01/06 17:42:44
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    misterz
    +2
    First to state to have a religion.
  • Bob, th... misterz 2012/01/06 21:14:13
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    Nope, try the real ancients...Egypt for example being one
  • Chokmah misterz 2012/01/06 21:40:47 (edited)
    Chokmah
    +1
    Israel and Judea were theocracies with a State religion and even a State race. Only members of the tribe were privileged. Egypt, Persia, all had state religions long before Constantine.
  • Bob, th... Chokmah 2012/01/06 22:32:33
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    and Egypt was before Israel and they had to deal with the Hykos and many others
  • Chokmah misterz 2013/12/08 03:10:35 (edited)
    Chokmah
    +1
    Sorry, but Israel had a religion long before Constantine.
  • Dave In Cali 2012/01/06 17:42:19
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    Dave In Cali
    +1
    He was the first to use Christianity, yes. A better question would be to ask 'who was the first politician/king/chief or whatever to control the masses with religion or mythology?'
  • bob Dave In... 2012/01/06 20:20:34
    bob
    +1
    good point
  • Bob, th... Dave In... 2012/01/06 21:14:42
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    Sumerians?
  • Dave In... Bob, th... 2012/01/06 22:10:50
    Dave In Cali
    I'll take it... but if you dive off into mythology, you'll find that according to some, this is the "third cycle" of man... we've been here before and blown ourselves up twice... I think it's safe to say that this trend of telling fairy tales to control, manipulate and at best, inspire your fellow man is very old indeed.
  • Bob, th... Dave In... 2012/01/06 22:29:41
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    tick, tick, tick, tick......(my hands are over my ears waiting for the explosion) :)
  • nightcrawler2005 2012/01/06 17:36:46
    Constantine was the first of many to use Christianity to control the masses
    nightcrawler2005
    +6
    He was the first to use Christianity to control the masses because Rome was the first country to declare Christianity the state religion.
    After him lots of Rulers have used Christianity to control the masses even to this day but that can be applied to most religions.
  • Dave In... nightcr... 2012/01/06 17:40:50
    Dave In Cali
    +2
    We have a winner!
  • Chokmah nightcr... 2012/01/06 19:44:41
    Chokmah
    +1
    Christianity was NOT declared the State Religion under Constantine.. your scholarship is faulty
  • Bob, th... Chokmah 2012/01/06 22:30:55
    Bob, the reasonable one
    He made it the "official" religion....I guess we're splitting hairs on this one.
  • Chokmah Bob, th... 2012/01/07 03:04:51
    Chokmah
    +1
    No, Constantine ordered Christianity to stop being persecuted and granted tolerance to the new religion, which had been growing by leaps and bounds because people were sick of paganism. Constantine NEVER made Christianity the 'official' or 'state' religion.

    Read up, dudes!
  • Redskin nightcr... 2012/01/06 21:15:52
    Redskin
    +1
    I think the dude might be right,
    For some reason (probably somethin I read) I believe the first state was . . . Armenia

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