UN to investigate "plight" of US Native Americans: Approve?

Give me a break, those folks want to get ahead it takes work and joining the melting pot of America. They wanted their reservations, their police their society and when it doesn't work the hand is out and let's cry that we are not being treated fairly.

I can tell you have never been on a Res. Or even Read a treaty.
They wanted their reservations my ASS! WE were put there!!! Against OUR WILL!!!
Wake up and learn your history.

I agree I never have have been on a reservation and you have some valid points. I will check out some treaty info and educate myself. All of us in America get tired of the whining and moaning about what people don't have but there are also two sides to every story and I have not read yours

Is someone making you stay there? I don't understand why someone would purposely choose to stay in an area where jobs are few and far between, and I don't just mean Native Americans.

Do you understand the history of the Native People?
In the beginning YES.
It went from being a god forsaken wasteland that the "WHITE" man stuck us on to OUR LAND. Like the Great Oak we as a people set down roots. This is where we honor our dead. Where we raise our young to pass on our traditions.

If there were no jobs in America would you move to China to find work? On the chance they might hire an American but wont because of the shape of your eyes? That was the way it is for us.

By putting the Natives on reservations they turned hunter/gatherers into farmers and farmers into hunter/gatherers. If you give a hunter a plow and take away his weapon he will starve. If you take away a farmers plow and give him a bow and tell him to hunt he will starve.

Please look up The Trail of Tears. it was the Bataan Death March of America

You are talking about past history, and yes, I've read The Trail of Tears. It was a travesty. But again, it is past history. I agree, Native Americans were treated terribly. Isn't it time to move on?

My husband's grandparents were dirt poor. They lived on land that had been in their family for generations. But they made the decision to leave and make a better life elsewhere. They didn't expect the government to take care of them.

Please explain to me why you feel that is not possible for Native Americans?

Not looking for a Hand Out. We don't expect the government to take care of us.
Up until the mid '70's if you left the res you were brought back to the res. in handcuffs. There was no leaving to make a better life for us.

I'm still hoping you can give me an explanation for why so many Native Americans are still struggling today.

The simple answer.......
Because life is tough on the res. but we get by.

Thanks for the videos, but I'm still wondering why "life is tough." The land looks lovely, the people mostly seem to be proud of their heritage, and to my knowledge, no one is forcing anyone to live ont the "res." Forgive me, but I just don't understand why so many Native Americans are still struggling. I would like to understand, but I don't get it.

Most Native Americans don't have a ssn so off rez over the table work is hard to come by and under the table jobs don't pay well or last long.
But we get by.

you don't need a ssn to work, go to the ss website and it tells you you do not need a ssn to work, if necessary print up a copy of it and take it with you when applying for a job and attach to the application for a job.now you do need one for a federal job or gov job of some sort.

rose

Why no SSN?

One last video

What an ignorant statement.

You are wrong,they did not want to live on reservation.They were corralled like cattle to do so,and their land taken away from them by soulless people that thought it was their right.

Enough already I said I would read up on it. Too many experts on everything,

I am half Native Am.

Yeah. Maybe they should check on them. They're probably living in horrible conditions.

Why the UN? Why not state, local or Bureau of Indian Affairs? Make the case that this requires extraterritorial oversight.

Yeah. I'm just saying someone should look in on them for their own good. :)

Are state, local, or BIA resources being used effectively or appropriately to help them?

To help them do exactly what? They take great pride in their autonomy. You'd take that from them? They have major problems with unemployment. When has the UN developed expertise in that area? Maybe they should help congress? This looks to me like someone desperate to slam a square peg into a round hole

The problem is that you connect giving them assistance and access to resources as taking away their autonomy, rather than giving them opportunities and choices.

Of course, I could ask the same-- when did the US develop the expertise in the areas that we're currently sticking our noses in?

Answer the first question first, then throw out the red herrings in the following post.

My bad; I mean help them get job-finding assistance, unemployment funds, access to psychiatric care and therapists, access to outreach programs to assist and buffering their social problems so that they can work on a solution, raise awareness to them and ease of access for programs that help them reduce the incidence of drug use (such as alcohol).

It's a fair question. Everyone on this post, by my observation, is being a complete hypocrite-- we have no issue cheering ourselves on when we stick our nose in other peoples' business, but we complain when others do the same.

I don't approve. That doesn't mean that the UN can't investigate anything they so choose. Of course I also think that the US should pull funding from the UN if they spend too much on too many issues that stray from their primary mission. That mission is to try to prevent global war.

The NA's have dual citizenship here in the US which is more than the rest of us have. I don't see any mass genocide occurring. I certainly don't see much chance of a global war nucleating on treaty lands.

good point, forgot that the un goal was strictly to stop war between nations, they have deviated and used it as a excuse to take over ownership of all the earth and the people and animals on it. they have no idea how to achieve peace let alone maintain it in a way that respects the rights of life liberty and property of all concerned. in fact it seems the more they butt in the more wars, civil uprisings, clashes, mass protests etc we seem to be getting and poorer everyone is getting spiritually, emotionally, economically and physically including the poor enviroment, like windmills killing millions of birds and creating a visual and noise pollution thank ngos and agenda 21,. I would think spending all those billions on better technology for using oil and gas the most cleanly and less enviormentally destructive ways would be better but what do I know I can't solve mans problems any more than those people in the un can either..

rose

How do I know what they claim is true or not?

I don't remember reading anything about the UN in our Constitution, we nor the Native Americans need the UN trying to tell us how things should be in America. If they want or need help speak up and ask.

they have thats wht there is a problem

To hell with the UN. No idea why we're even part of this thing, anymore... or why they're still doing business within our borders.

Unfortunately most will be covered up by the BIA

It is about time ....

I have a genuine and severe distrust of ANYTHING the UN has to do with, as everything they do seems to screw over America in some way or another.

The plight of Native Americans is well known by anyone who pays attention, and it is further exacerbated by our governments very own policies...all this is already documented. It is up to the people of this country to demand reforms, not the freakin UN.

We need to tell the UN to eat glass and go away or we will stop all support for their phoney programs. They are in here up to their noses right because obama and Hillary are using them to bury us in ways hard to believe using treaty nonsense. They are looking to investigate the Trayvon thing and now they will recomend giving thousands if not millions of people's home to the indians. Death to the UN and the obama regime. Maybe we could teach them Japanese customs and solve all our problems.

The reasoning behind my disapproval is based on the fact that the Indians are not forced to stay on reservations. This is a choice. The alternative is, essentially, to live under the US welfare system, and let the devil control the music and lead the dance steps. This is possibly THE Petri Dish of total reliance on welfare. Reliance on the government breeds apathy and dependence. The UN needs to keep out of our business. No one is forcing the native Americans to stay on the reservation. No one confines the indigenous tribal members to the reservation. It is their choice, and, at the same time, their "keepers" offer no alternatives, other than "We are looking out for your best interests." This may seem heartless, but I am 1/16th Cherokee, so I can speak to this. It is up to the individual to accept or reject his/her lot. Cultural ties can be maintained without subservience.

So it's basically either "give up your heritage or suffer"?

Show me whereit's the UN's responsibility to inetrfer in the United Staes of America