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The Mysticism of ‘Social Justice’?

~ The Rebel ~ 2012/06/27 14:44:43
If there were a Hall of Fame for political rhetoric, the phrase “social justice” would deserve a prominent place there. It has the prime virtue of political catchwords: It means many different things to many different people.

In other words, if you are a politician, you can get lots of people, with different concrete ideas, to agree with you when you come out boldly for the vague generality of “social justice.”

Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said that a good catchword can stop thought for 50 years. The phrase “social justice” has stopped many people from thinking, for at least a century — and counting.

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  • bettyboop 2012/07/01 11:47:49
    bettyboop
    +1
    Social Justice is an ideal, a theory made up by man that sounds good on paper and in speeches but in reality does not exist. Maybe social equalizer attempts might be a more fitting. Truth, and reality is it will never happen.
  • TheCouchF*cker 2012/06/28 21:02:11
  • will 2012/06/28 13:45:57
    will
    +1
    social justice = angry mob rule
  • rknothead 2012/06/28 11:13:49
    rknothead
    +1
    You might include social injustice with this. Both have caused people to stop thinking for about 50 years.
  • The One 2012/06/28 06:55:44
    The One
    +1
    I want my taint in your Social mouth justice!!!!LOL
  • Lawnmowerman~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/28 04:09:46
    Lawnmowerman~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Nothing mystical about it. It's just a rose-colored pipe dream used by Liberals and 'Progressives' (read 'socialists') to attempt to garner votes from the 'unlucky' (read 'deadbeats') by promising them money and property pilfered from the 'lucky' (read 'working man'). Sound familiar Mr. 'Spread The Wealth Around'?
  • Zippcodey 2012/06/28 00:34:02
    Zippcodey
    +2
    "The American people will never knowingly adopt SOCIALISM. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate.

    How Socialism Works:

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

    That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class......." All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-callin...






























































    "The American people will never knowingly adopt SOCIALISM. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate.

    How Socialism Works:

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

    That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class......." All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

    SOCIAL REFORM / JUSTICE.

    What the liberals and the Catholic Church are pushing is called SOCIAL JUSTICE (or SOCIAL REFORM) which the Vatican started that term in the 1800’s
    -----------------------------...
    Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership and centralized planning of all major industries (manufacturing, services, and energy), banks and insurance companies, agribusiness, transportation, the media, and medical facilities. Socialism prioritizes human needs and eliminates the profit motive that drives war, ecological destruction, and inequalities based on gender, race, nationality and sexuality. Socialism must be international so that global resources can be shared. No country can be truly independent of the global economy. Socialism has no room for unborn babies, old people, and the disabled, because they are not assets but a debit, to Socialism proprietorship. That's why the healthcare system has death counseling for old people and probably for the disabled too, or anyone when they get too expensive to take care of, it's time for you to go. Then of coarse, babies being aborted.

    Is this not Obama's message and what he is up to? They are purposely and systematically destroying everything that is good in this country. In just the year and a half Obama has been President, they have taken over the banks, auto industry, college tuitions, child nutrition, and now health care, even now the first steps of controlling housing. Ask yourself this: Why did they push healthcare before jobs, since people won‘t be able to pay for healthcare without jobs? If you notice all the new jobs are mostly government ones. Highway, Railroad, Nuclear Energy, Waterways. Now they want more IRS people, Census takers, think about it. As of February 2011, John Boehner says Obama has made 200,000 new federal government jobs. Answer: Because they are trying to take over all the businesses and bring them under government control too. Where you will get paid by the U.S. Treasury Department. That way government can control you from before birth, (since they passed abortion laws) to death. So if you die at birth or at whatever age, they will control it completely. You will also lose parental rights to your children, Hillary Clinton is making sure of that, government will control everything.

    Hillary Clinton and Obama are trying to get the Supreme Court and the U.N. to take the guns away from Americans.They are out to destroy our Constitution, which protects the American Citizen from the government. They want to get rid of the Bill of Rights, so you have no rights. They want to get rid of State Constitutions, so States have no rights. We have a bunch of Marxist, Communist, Fascist, Liberal, Radical, Socialist people in our government today. In a Socialist Society the leaders have all the money not the people.

    "Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sara Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control, to Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.



    THEIR 5 STEPS TO DESTRUCTION.

    The way a country is taken over is:

    1. They get rid of morality.

    2. They turn the people against each other.

    2. They take your guns.

    3. They take your freedoms.

    4. The country is taken over from within or without, ours is being taken over from within.

    "Capitalists" and the Communist Dimension

    The ultimate object of the parties of the Socialist International is nothing less than world government. As a first step towards it, they seek to strengthen the United Nations....

    — Declaration of the Socialist International 1962 Conference, Oslo, Norway

    The conflict between the two great superpowers ... will be replaced by the USDR (a union of socialist democratic republics). This will be a penultimate stage of progress toward a truly global world federal union...."5
    — Professor Mortimer Adler, socialist, author, 1991

    The Vatican has national relations with about 170 some countries and is also the only non-member to have permanent observer status at the U.N. ( I've read in a couple places where the Pope is actually over the U.N.) The Pope told the Western Europe countries that they need to unite under their religious roots of Christianity and to change over to Socialism, this is exactly what the E.U. has done. The E.U. pays a CHURCH TAX just for Catholics for now. So who is behind all this, does not take a rocket scientist to know.

    WHAT THE JESUITS AND VATICAN ARE UP TO.

    French General Marquis de Lafayette (1757-1834) stated: "It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country - the United States of America - are DESTROYED, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic JESUIT PRIESTS, for they are the most crafty, dangerous ENEMIES to CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. They have instigated most of the wars in Europe.

    They are all working together to bring us under U.N. control under Socialism, then under the Popes rule. The U.N. tells the leaders and judges to ignore the people and over ride the laws in place already, and just let the people fuss all they want. This is what is happening in America right now, and our government officials won’t step forward. Knowing that people without backbones are in this government today, and won’t stand for anything, that is why we are falling into the pit with the rest of the world.

    Rome is secretly running our government. I also believe that the Vatican and the Muslims are working together for the destruction of Israel and the United States, since they both want Israel destroyed. Muslim terrorist are going to South America, then they learn Spanish, they then go into Mexico and cross the border with the other illegal aliens into this country. Think about this, the middle eastern people could pass off as Latinos. Latinos come from prodominately Catholic countries which are poor ones. Mexico has strict immigration laws which they enforce, why aren't the Muslim terrorist being stopped in Mexico? Mexico is a Catholic country. Many of the terrorist are being caught at our border, but a lot of them are getting through, by the evidence. If America's security is such a high priority why aren't the borders secure? Our government knows the terrorist are coming into this country and this is what bothers me. Why do they ignore the need to secure the borders? Is this country being set-up for another attack and some in our government knows it and even in on it?

    The Jesuits have infilterated our government and why you have seen such a big change in it since Ronald Reagan was President, who signed a Concordant with the Papacy.

    A Irish preacher gave the best description of the Jesuits, that I really like. He said, " The head of the Jesuits is the Black Pope, and the Jesuits are the Gestapo of the Roman Catholic system, who push forward the policies and domination of the Roman Catholic system." He also added, that a Jesuit deceives people, are double crossers, and hypocrits.

    Issue # 79 // May 12, 2006 // Editor: Darryl Eberhart

    Indeed, power – absolute power – has long been the “game” at the Vatican. History has recorded the Vatican’s deep hatred for religious liberty and freedom of conscience. The U.S. Constitution, with it “Bill of Rights” guaranteeing such liberties, has long been hated by the Vatican. (For a good example of this, please read the Syllabus of Errors issued in 1864 by Pope Pius IX.) I have heard that there is an acronym in use by some Knights of Columbus in America. This acronym is “M.A.C.”: “Make America Catholic”. America is the last “roadblock” in the way of the Vatican and the rest of the globalist rich and power elite in their dreams for one-world government and one-world religion. Is America scheduled for a religious genocide – another Inquisition – as occurred in the 1940s in Croatia? I believe the danger is very real and possibly quite imminent – and that is why I have been writing more and more about the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy, its long-held dreams of world domination, its love of Fascist regimes, and its well-documented history of torture and religious genocide!

    I would like to here repeat an earlier “editorial comment” I made to an earlier quotation in this newsletter: “Is this [i.e., a Roman Catholic Croatian-Fascist-style religious genocide] what non-Catholic Americans will be facing when America soon comes under complete totalitarian Roman Catholic rule in an American Fascist super-Police State? It is reported that there are 10 Jesuit Provincials assigned to the USA – and America is divided into 10 FEMA regions. Is this just a ‘coincidence’?”No, dear reader, I highly doubt that this is just a “coincidence”. The destruction of the American Constitutional Republic, with its freedoms of religion and conscience, has long been planned – and one of the main movers behind this planned destruction has been, and remains, the Vatican and its Jesuit Order!

    Fascism was defined by Mussolini as the "Combining of Communism and Capitalism. We ARE THERE PEOPLE!

    Today the Papacy is pushing Socialism, which will most likely start World War 3. What the liberals and the Catholic Church are pushing is called SOCIAL JUSTICE (or SOCIAL REFORM) which the Vatican started that term in the 1800’s

    A Fascist state was a totalitarian state, controlling all the political, economic and social activities of its people. This is what started World War 2, and was the pet of the Papacy.National Healthcare, Illegal Immigration, Climate Control, are all some of the Vatican's agendas.
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  • umapathy Krishnamurthy 2012/06/27 23:58:00
    umapathy Krishnamurthy
    +1
    It is true
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/27 19:02:05 (edited)
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    Socalled Social Jistice is a LIE. There is no justice in it. The Lie is from Socialists and Marxists.
    See the idea a couple of centuries go something bad happened top a race of people. Now there is a demand tfor reprations to come from the race of people who wrogrd them...... The Blacks were promised 40 acres and a mule when thy were freed as slaves. AAlready since 19968 3 trillion dollars has been spent every year to house cloth and feed them .. think that population has already eatten up that mule and thse 40 acres????
  • Mr Marvin 2012/06/27 18:57:09
    Mr Marvin
    +2
    Social justice is part of socialism. America was founded as equal civial justice for all.
  • bettyboop Mr Marvin 2012/07/01 11:52:28
    bettyboop
    +1
    It may have been founded on it, but even civil justice for all is a lie. Justice is for sale to the highest bidders.
  • prosperhappily 2012/06/27 18:15:55
    prosperhappily
    +3
    Social Justice is just a way of saying "getting stuff you didn't earn".
  • Stephen Oberkirch 2012/06/27 17:29:12
    Stephen Oberkirch
    +1
    “Social justice”, “Equal justice”, "Liberty and Freedom" or whatever other phrases you choose are all political and too often used to justify whatever manner of oppression the elite seek to impose on others. It has always been that way throughout history and will continue as long as there are organized societies.
  • cynsity Stephen... 2012/06/27 20:22:33
    cynsity
    +1
    you are only telling half the story. The "elite" are not the only ones to oppress. The poor oppress as well. It is human nature not money nature to oppress. And often those with money, the elite, will do more to help people out from oppression than the poor will. Just name one scholarship funded by a "poor" person?
  • Biki 2012/06/27 17:23:45
    Biki
    +2
    I can't stand that phrase!
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/06/27 17:00:10
    JCD aka "biz"
    The Catholic Church, and most mainstream Protestant Churches, support social justice, and a degree of wealth redistribution.
    CINOs, or "Christians In Name Only", generally don't.
  • Howler 2012/06/27 16:28:41 (edited)
    Howler
    +3
    There is no such thing in this life as social justice.

    It simply cannot exist.

    If any human or group of humans ever have the power to force "social justification" on the rest of humanity, those in power will certainly never include themselves to be treated as those they are attempting to socially-justify, and probably will never have had any intention of including themselves in the transformation from the get-go.
  • Ken 2012/06/27 16:07:59
    Ken
    Are you suggesting justice is hollow political rhetoric? Do you feel the same way about liberty? Freedom?

    Do you belief the American system of government is about protecting private property rather than liberty and justice? If so, why was John Locke's notion of "property" as an inalienable right replaced with the "pursuit of happiness" in the Declaration of Independence?

    Many of those arguing for "social justice" are indeed misguided idealists who somehow believe replacing one "boss" with another will somehow change the structure of society. Although America's founders were much more pragmatic, they held the concepts of liberty, justice in high esteem. They also firmly believed that each person should be rewarded for their own contribution and not because of activities performed by their parents or grandparents. Too many modern conservatives reject the notion of "social justice" because they think they are entitled to the wealth accumulated by their predecessors simply because they were born in America.

    American's have this wealth because of the virtue and sacrifice of our predecessors. I suspect the current generation will learn the truth of Paine's words "virtue...is not hereditary....neither is it perpetual" if they ignore the concept of justice for all.
  • Sweet-N... Ken 2012/06/27 20:38:47
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +1
    No. We reject it because "justice" does not need a qualifier. Social justice is not the same as justice. Liberty and justice for all implies equal rights and equal opportunity. Social justice on the other hand implies that equal outcome is guaranteed just for demanding it.
  • Ken Sweet-N... 2012/06/27 23:06:25
    Ken
    So you accept the concept of justice?

    When Robin Hood hunts deer to feed his starving family and neighbors in the King's Forest is it a crime? Is it just for the King who inherited this forest from his father, to deny Robin Hood the opportunity to feed his family and neighbors? Is it right for a distant King to collect taxes on colonies simply because one of his subjects "discovered" this land?

    IMO, our founders tried to create a system where a person's worth and value were based on what their own accomplishments and efforts. As American wealth grew, many Americans lost interest in helping their neighbor succeed and abandoned the American School of Economics advocated by Alexander Hamilton and supported by Henry Clay, Abraham Lincoln, and many other great Americans. Instead they argue for the British System advocated by Adam Smith; a form of capitalism intended to protect the entitlement of the nobility.

    The inevitable response to the British System of Capitalism is another European import, Socialism and the resulting class struggle which Marx suggests would inevitably lead to class warfare. The term Social Justice has emerged to incorporate the many values of our founders which have been ignored and trampled upon by those claiming to be conservative and advocating the...
    So you accept the concept of justice?

    When Robin Hood hunts deer to feed his starving family and neighbors in the King's Forest is it a crime? Is it just for the King who inherited this forest from his father, to deny Robin Hood the opportunity to feed his family and neighbors? Is it right for a distant King to collect taxes on colonies simply because one of his subjects "discovered" this land?

    IMO, our founders tried to create a system where a person's worth and value were based on what their own accomplishments and efforts. As American wealth grew, many Americans lost interest in helping their neighbor succeed and abandoned the American School of Economics advocated by Alexander Hamilton and supported by Henry Clay, Abraham Lincoln, and many other great Americans. Instead they argue for the British System advocated by Adam Smith; a form of capitalism intended to protect the entitlement of the nobility.

    The inevitable response to the British System of Capitalism is another European import, Socialism and the resulting class struggle which Marx suggests would inevitably lead to class warfare. The term Social Justice has emerged to incorporate the many values of our founders which have been ignored and trampled upon by those claiming to be conservative and advocating the British System. We can eliminate the calls for "social justice" by eliminating all entitlements including all titles of nobility, i.e., inherited wealth and power. Admittedly this is easier said than done.
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  • Sweet-N... Ken 2012/06/28 19:04:21
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    You use a lot of words to say nothing. A crime is a crime because we are a nation of laws. If Robin Hood hunted on land that was not his, it was most definitely a crime. Was the law just? Not for Robin. But you are confusing tyranny with capitalism. The king did not inherit the land, the land was taken by force, conquered, kept and expanded within the royal family, doled out in parcels as favors, the poor were taxed to pay for it all. Also, the common man was not allowed to become rich (no equality of opportunity, remember?) and any who tried were taken to court at best, unceremoniously jailed at worst.
    This kind of tyrannical monarchy is much more closely related to communism than capitalism. You see, what you are talking about is government owning everything (like the monarchy in the days of the fabled Robin Hood) as opposed to American capitalism, which if Constitutionally followed, would allow ALL Americans equal opportunity to be as wealthy and successful as they wish if they are willing to work for it.
    I will never stoop to emotional, irrational knee-jerk reactions like "social justice". If you are implying that as a conservative, I am trying to "conserve" the ideology of tyranny, then there is no hope of me explaining anything to you because in that case, your level of confusion concerning ideologies is too great.
  • Ken Sweet-N... 2012/06/29 04:00:22
    Ken
    +1
    Well...it was a crime to dump Tea into the Boston Harbor but America's founders did it because they felt the tax on tea was not justice.

    It was a crime to raise an army to fight the British when they responded by sending mercenaries to collect taxes from the American Colonies but America's founders did it because they felt British rule of America was not justice.

    Clearly America's founders din not believe the law provides justice.
  • Ken Sweet-N... 2012/06/29 11:41:46
    Ken
    I am confused by ideologies invented in Europe and followed by people professing to be American patriots. Consider your statement that America is a "nation of laws".

    It was a crime to dump Tea into the Boston Harbor but America's founders did it because they felt the tax on tea was not justice.

    It was a crime to raise an army to fight the British when they responded by sending mercenaries to collect taxes from the American Colonies but America's founders did it because they felt British rule of America was not justice.

    We could go on and discuss the many conflicts within and between these United States including both slavery and the current debate over health care reform. As you review these debates you quickly realize that obeying "the law" is not a core American value. Bottom line America's founders and subsequent generations of Americans have always defined justice as something other than "the law".
  • Sweet-N... Ken 2012/06/29 15:57:38
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    *yawn* I'm sorry but I am tired of your drivel. Go jump to the "D" side where you belong.
  • Ken Sweet-N... 2012/06/29 16:39:51
    Ken
    So you believe we would be better off if America's founders had obeyed the law and neglected justice. I am tired of these pretend patriots who do not know American history but wave the flag. Who do not understand the US Constitution while wrapping themselves in it like a blanket. Beware you hypocrite because a man reaps what he sows.
  • Howler Sweet-N... 2012/06/29 13:35:39 (edited)
    Howler
    +2
    Regarding your take on Mr. Ken's blather - "You use a lot of words to say nothing."

    And he almost always does.

    It seems he consistently tries to use little, sometimes subtle, psychologically-twisted mindgames to play one's opinion against itself so that he can continue to tout himself as a "conservative" and a "lifelong" Republican, when, if one looks at his more direct commentary on political and/or religious/theistic issues, he easily shows himself to be a typical Obama supporter -- more on the left-wing, Progressive side of "social justice".

    At least IMO.

    I respond to you because I cannot respond to him.
  • Sweet-N... Howler 2012/06/29 15:53:30
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    Absolutely agree. It is almost painful to sort through his nonsense. He definitely confuses issues and muddles them together.
  • tracy.m.miller1 2012/06/27 16:07:24
    tracy.m.miller1
    +3
    Both seemingly innocuous words, one promotes the idea that it's for everybody, "social". The other, "justice", is something we all have longed for since childhood. But together these words represent socialism, and the type our country is engaging in is not benefiting the entire population and sparking tensions along several lines. This is the ultimate goal to promote civil unrest and take over. Our people are too stupid from tv to realize this.
  • Paul Adam 2012/06/27 15:40:00
    Paul Adam
    Ask Sokrates & Plato all about it: Rethorics, grammar & logic? There never mede an even pair now did they? Social Darwinism or any kind of Christian faith or Allaha or Jehova?
  • Obama Failed Soda Head Chie... 2012/06/27 15:35:32
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +3
    What is "social justice"? The theory that implies and justifies the practice of socialism

    . And what is "socialism"? Domination by the State. What is "socialized" is state-controlled. So what is "totalitarian" socialism other than total socialism, i.e.,

    state control of everything? And what is that but the absence of a free market in anything, be it goods or ideas? Those who contend that a socialist government need not be totalitarian, that it can allow a free market -- independent choice

    , the very source of "inequality"! -- in some things (ideas) and not in others (goods -- as if, say, books were one or the other), are saying only that the socialist ethic shouldn't be applied consistently

    More: http://www.discoverthenetwork...
  • Sweet-N-Sour 2012/06/27 15:33:24
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    Mysticism is a good description. Social justice is just another way of trying to qualify and legitimize doing horrible things to someone with whom you don't agree or don't see as your equal.
  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/06/27 15:28:39
    Elaine Magliacane
    +4
    Social justice = MARXISM.... give me EQUAL JUSTICE... please... the law should treat EVERYONE the same... Gays, black, Illegals, rich people... all the SAME... EQUAL justice.
  • SiliconSorcerer 2012/06/27 15:10:47
    SiliconSorcerer
    +3
    Social Justice = Socialism
  • KingdomNow 2012/06/27 15:10:18
    KingdomNow
    +2
    "Social Justice" is ranked up there with "Final Solution".
    Concentration camp
    Social Justice in action
  • JCD aka... KingdomNow 2012/06/27 16:57:07
    JCD aka "biz"
    LOL
  • DefendnProtect 2012/06/27 15:09:05
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    Emptied ideological words. Let's start with the criminal money bankster cartel propped up by government regulation debasing the currency, evaporating purchasing power from local communities, slashing jobs, instructing their puppets like Bush, Obama and Romney to do more bankrupting wars for world control, debt slavery and taking away civil liberties.

    Take it down!

    Understand it first. Knowledge is power. Recommended docu, Money as debt


    Highly recommended docu Money Masters
  • prosper... Defendn... 2012/06/27 18:18:27
    prosperhappily
    +2
    Knowledge is POTENTIAL power. It's worth nothing if you don't use it.
  • Defendn... prosper... 2012/06/27 18:23:36
    DefendnProtect
    +2
    Your knowledge is wisdom. We got to put it into action. Thanks!

    Member of parliament in my country brought to court.

    geert wilders in court
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/06/27 15:04:26
    ☆ QueenAline
    +4
    political rhetoric is exactly what it is
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/06/27 15:01:16
    Christopher Kirchen
    +7
    "Social Justice" is just minorities' way of saying, "We want what we want! Give it to us NOW!

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