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Texas Senate OKs Concealed Handguns on College Campuses: Smart or Stupid?

SodaHead Living 2011/05/11 15:42:20
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Just what we needed -- a bunch of college kids walking around with concealed handguns.

On Monday, the Texas Senate approved a bill that would allow individuals with concealed handgun licenses to carry weapons in public college buildings and classrooms, Time magazine reports.

Supporters of the bill say carrying guns on campus is a self-defense measure, one that could allow students to retaliate and defend themselves in school shootings like those at Virginia Tech in 2007 and Northern Illinois University in 2008.

But critics, including University of Texas administrators, fear the law could lead to more campus crime and suicides.

If the bill clears the House, Texas Gov. Rick Perry is expected to sign it into law. Would you call this a smart idea, or a very stupid one?

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  • BlueMax372 2011/05/11 16:08:25
    Smart
    BlueMax372
    +24
    Typical of SH-sponsored articles, this one starts out stupid, with "...a bunch of college kids walking around with concealed handguns." The "college kids" would have to be at least 21 to obtain the concealed carry permit and to have been vetted and trained according to state statute. Can we say "knee-jerk reaction," everyone?

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  • Edible_toad 2011/05/12 09:58:26
    Stupid
    Edible_toad
    We don't need more guns floating around a COLLEGE campus.
    The risk of misuse > the chance of them being handy in an event like Virginia Tech.

    Also, it makes it easier for guns to end up on the black market.
    Easier to use them as murder/crime weapons.
    Easier to use them for suicide.
    Easier to use them to threaten other students/people in general.

    It just seems like a silly thing to do.
  • Patrick... Edible_... 2011/05/12 10:20:00
    Patrick Jones
    +1
    "the chance of them being handy in an event like Virginia Tech."

    And if they had been, the body count would have been one, maybe 2. The shooter and the first person he shot. Tell me again why 1 or 2 dead is worse than 33?
  • Edible_... Patrick... 2011/05/12 11:44:38
    Edible_toad
    It's not.
    You completely took what I said out of context.
    I said the chance of their misuse was higher than the chance of another even like Virginia Tech happening and the gun being useful.
  • Patrick... Edible_... 2011/05/12 12:21:34
    Patrick Jones
    +1
    And I put what you said into the context of the real world.
  • Edible_... Patrick... 2011/05/12 12:54:45
    Edible_toad
    No. You didn't.
    In reality, what I said is much more likely.
    The guns being stolen, used for crimes and suicides, and for threating others is more likely to happen that another Virgina Tech.
    Sure, they may be handy in the event it does happen, but there can be things implemented the stop that which do not involve allowing everyone with a gun license to carry a weapon.
  • Patrick... Edible_... 2011/05/12 13:00:59
    Patrick Jones
    +1
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=41...

    29 years in a town where everyone is REQUIRED to own a gun. Not one person killed with one. No murders, no suicides, no accidental deaths, no self defense killings, nothing

    Nothing is safer than an area where everyone is armed.
  • Edible_... Patrick... 2011/05/12 21:14:49
    Edible_toad
    Yes. Everyone.
    This is only some. On a campus of people that are mostly between 18-22.
    I still maintain that it is a silly option.

    Though, I do come from a country that doesn't think guns are an important part of daily life, like most Americans do.

    Also, there was no FATAL shots in the town. So there were still shots.
  • TKramar Patrick... 2011/05/12 22:23:52
    TKramar
    Yeah, like someone said above--Afghanistan. Real safe place.
  • Patrick... TKramar 2011/05/13 01:12:32
    Patrick Jones
    Not everyone in Afganistan is allowed to have a gun.

    Before you bring it up, same thing with Mexico.
  • TKramar Patrick... 2011/05/13 12:14:53
    TKramar
    I don't expect them in Mexico. Somalia now, that's a different story.
  • MW121 2011/05/12 09:42:49
    Smart
    MW121
    +2
    Go Texas... Gotta love texas.. As long as you are trained, have a permit and know how to use the weapon, all the power to ya.. I know I was taught how to shoot guns at 9 years old and have been shooting them all my life.. I think it's just as safe as driving a car...
  • Bulanova (Team Hargitay) 2011/05/12 08:23:38
    Smart
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    +1
    There is some serious irony in some of these comments.
  • ConLibFraud 2011/05/12 08:14:14
    Smart
    ConLibFraud
    +3
    I know I wouldn't be on any campus without a gun! I plead the 2nd!
  • ih8uf 2011/05/12 07:12:13
    Stupid
    ih8uf
    must be time for a study group drive-by...
  • james 2011/05/12 07:03:29
    Stupid
    james
    Why would kids be allowed to cary guns
  • Fallsch... james 2011/05/12 08:48:48
    Fallschirmjager
    +3
    Kids aren't allowed.
  • Albannach 2011/05/12 06:07:05
    Stupid
    Albannach
    +1
    When people feel they need to take a gun to College there is something very wrong with that country.
  • Aesa. 2011/05/12 05:28:56
    Stupid
    Aesa.
    yeah let's just give kids permission to go on a shooting rampage
  • Patrick... Aesa. 2011/05/12 10:21:11 (edited)
    Patrick Jones
    +1
    Anyone who would do that is going to do that anyway... But now the ones getting killed could defend themselves.

    Also they aren't kids. They are over 21.
  • NekoChan 2011/05/12 05:21:10
    Stupid
    NekoChan
  • Nudenz 2011/05/12 05:19:29
    Stupid
    Nudenz
    +1
    Handguns should be illegal. They are used to kill people. For the people who say they need a gun for protection. From whom? Other people with guns.
  • tkoyh Nudenz 2011/05/12 16:43:01
    tkoyh
    your right!!!! .. haha
  • Depsycho 2011/05/12 05:18:59
    Smart
    Depsycho
    +3
    Sure, this might lead to another Columbine-esque incident, but if it does, at least when it does, the psychopath(s) won't be the only ones armed. Giving a gun to someone doesn't mean it's going to flip some hidden trigger in their head and cause them to shoot everyone in sight.
    Furthermore, these are college students; in other words, ADULTS. Not kids.
  • Lucky 2011/05/12 05:17:08
    Stupid
    Lucky
    Because you might be putting allowing that gun in the wrong person's hands.
  • Manwë 2011/05/12 05:10:36
    Stupid
    Manwë
    It's just as smart as having handguns without the locks on in homes with young children.
  • Fef 2011/05/12 04:31:45
    Smart
    Fef
    Would people prefer wearing the guns exposed on the hip? ;)
  • Patrick... Fef 2011/05/12 10:22:47
    Patrick Jones
    I would... Thats why I liked Wyoming so much...
  • jackolantyrn356 2011/05/12 04:29:11
    Smart
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    Unless you have let a "perp," Crazy" or "preditor" in to the herd, The campus as a whole will have the most Polite in the near Universe.
  • dm 2011/05/12 04:25:22
    Stupid
    dm
    You can be of age and trained how to use one but I don't trust anyone else with it.

    I just imagine some people getting angry and in the heat of the moment use it on someone.

    We shall see how it works out for them now that this bill is passed.

    More suicides? I don't think so. If people wanted to kill themselves there's plenty of other ways to without a gun.
  • KcKarnage 2011/05/12 04:22:30
    Stupid
    KcKarnage
    +2
    This is just another Columbine waiting to happen. There is no need for guns in a classroom, ever. Just because someone has a permit doesnt mean they are mentally stable. Once someone shoots up the school what will the senate do then? Probably just pass the blame onto Marylin Manson or video games like they did with Columbine.
  • dm KcKarnage 2011/05/12 04:26:45
    dm
    +1
    My thoughts exactly. I don't think some are mentally stable. I think they should pass a psychological test to own one. But still no guarantee. They can answer how they think they want them to answer..
  • KcKarnage dm 2011/05/13 03:32:56
    KcKarnage
    Exactly there are never guarantees. They could lie during the examine or go though a traumatic event that causes them to be mad at the world or a certain group of people, it's just all around not a good idea.
  • SteveCrawford 2011/05/12 04:18:03
    Smart
    SteveCrawford
    +3
    Sure, why not ? The 2nd amendment either applies to every LEGAL citizen anywhere anytime or it doesn't. Can't be making exceptions.
  • MO.gal 2011/05/12 04:13:47
    Stupid
    MO.gal
    I think it's a stupid idea to have guns on campus.
  • Jarred Nisenfeld 2011/05/12 03:44:52
    Smart
    Jarred Nisenfeld
    +2
    we need to be able to protect ourselves, remember Virginia Tech?
  • your favourite worst nightmare 2011/05/12 03:30:35
    Stupid
    your favourite worst nightmare
    +1
    what kind of hick carries a gun to school?
  • middlesex1957 2011/05/12 02:55:42
    Stupid
    middlesex1957
    +1
    I don't know what the laws are like in Texas but in New York it is very hard to prove self defense. Most of the people who fire a gun in self defense end up in jail. You have to prove you were in imminent danger of being shot yourself. With all the hot heads, tired students and drunkeness this is more likley to end in multiple tragedies than in self defense.
  • WilliamPeebles 2011/05/12 02:33:27 (edited)
    Smart
    WilliamPeebles
    +1
    It's a moot point. Easier to kill someone when guns are allowed, but if someone wanted to do it in the first place, they could still do it. So, not really a big issue. Thing is, you can kill the killer faster before he kills other people if other people have guns.
  • igillum 2011/05/12 02:30:09
    Smart
    igillum
    +1
    What's stupid is to allow a legislator to take away your right to defend yourself.
  • Kave-Man 2011/05/12 02:14:17
    Smart
    Kave-Man
    +1
    I'd teach there.

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