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Study Says Recipe for Happiness Is an Affair with Lots of Sex: Time to Redefine Marriage?

Fef 2012/08/20 20:00:00
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A recent study (yeah, I know, another study stating the obvious) concludes that men want more sex than their wives. Catherine Hakim writes in The Telegraph, "...wisdom about men wanting more sex than their wives is not an unfair stereotype but a fact."

She continues to refer to studies that show the internet allows men (and women) to have affairs, which keep everyone happy. Ms. Hakim concludes, "The time has come, alongside the technology, to redraw the rules of marriage for the 21st century."

TELEGRAPH.CO.UK reports:
In an extract from her new book, the controversial sociologist says it is time to redraw marital rules -- with a radical rethink on fidelity.
book controversial sociologist redraw marital rules ndash radical rethink fidelity

Read More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/9486351/T...

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  • hapman SW 2012/08/22 13:18:08
    hapman
    agree with all of that. what bothers me is the overthink. like, 'what should we be doing?' especially from the religious community. the more we think ourselves out of behaviour that is natural and instinctive, the more problems we are going to create for ourselves.
  • SW hapman 2012/08/22 16:13:49
    SW
    What really struck me was pondering the question of why are men stronger and run faster than women? The answer people tend to give is so we can hunt or whatever while they're pregnant or nursing.. But why not make them strong and run fast too?

    Then it hit me. There's no wild animal a man can outrun that a woman can't. There's no wild animal a man can overpower that a woman can't... to a bear or lion for example, we're all bitches.

    What is the ONE animal a man can outrun and over power that a woman can't --and how does that help produce more babies?
  • hapman SW 2012/08/22 17:06:07
    hapman
    yeah, I can see that. most procreation was probably the result of rape when we were still living in caves. there's a few things I think about. the church says it's god's law. the relationship between a man and a woman and we mess with it at our peril. I think it's good philosophy, but for totally different reasons. if women start behaving like men, which they have, men aren't going to be attracted to them. this would have to have some pretty dire consequences. and with the different functions we perform, women are built and programmed for long periods of dull activity. men, for short periods of intense, dangerous activity. and the society we've built is screwing us both up. men are doing long hours of dull activity. women who don't work, and I'm sure this is why they want to, are at the nest and basically trapped there all day. as primitives, unless the men went on a planned expedition, most days he's only gone a couple of hours. our social structure and functions are wrecking everybody's natural rhythms.
  • SW hapman 2012/08/22 19:50:38 (edited)
    SW
    Turns out it's not a popular theory with the ladies...

    After watching a romantic encounter between a group of male chimpanzees and a lone female on the Discovery Channel... (romantic in the "prison rape" sense) It seems like that's how it works in primates a lot of the time.
  • hapman SW 2012/08/23 07:09:21 (edited)
  • kobidob... hapman 2012/08/23 21:14:40
    kobidobidog
    You have a point. Church as I see it is not godly. The governmental is not godly either. How then can anything Godly whatever come out of it? The church religion wanted to condemn Jesus, and lazerus too. The government has the legal system wanting to arrest or kill whoever. They look the same thing to me. We are animals. A bull has a harem. A buck deer has his harem, and a lion too. Why not the Human animal too? I say let people decide what they want to do. Freedom of choice. This is call the land of the free, but there are jails. That sounds oxymoronic to me.
  • hapman kobidob... 2012/08/24 08:24:00
  • kobidob... hapman 2012/08/24 18:27:34 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    Teleological doctrine as taught by religions. I agree. I turn the KJV on its ear according to how religions teach it clearly showing what I teach with scripture supporting it all the way. Religions do not like that. They don't like it when I expose what they do not want to be exposed. They look at me like the religions looked at Jesus wanting him dead.
    Religion that condemned Jesus is parallel to the government with its legal system doing the same thing to whoever. They in spirit are the same. I see through the devils deceptions.
    Religious law is not Gods law of love whoever as yourself. Religious law is if you are different than we are we will oppress you. That is not what they say, but that is what they do.
    Religion needs to see that they are not behaving like Jesus. As a result behave like the devil.
    Religion is no more a spiritual organization than the government is. The spirit of God is in you, and me.
    Devils fear punishment. This is a clear sign that devils are in religion. Christ is in you. The only thing you lack is the truth that religoins do not teach. Devils fear the glorified face of God. Moses was kept from seeing Gods glorified face so Moses did not end up being ashes blowing in the wind.
  • hapman kobidob... 2012/08/24 19:04:29
    hapman
    +1
    interesting. got to go to bed so I can't write much now. I'll get back tomorrow. very interesting indeed.
  • KY 2012/08/22 05:12:44
    No
    KY
    What makes us different with animals ?And what is the meaning of the happiness again ?
  • kobidob... KY 2012/08/24 19:41:37 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    Nothing makes us different than animals. Both of us are born. Both of us turn to dust again.
    KJV Ecclesiastes 3, 18 - 20 has God saying we are a beast for times in two verses wanting to manifest that fact saying we are equal having no preeminence above a beast. We are actually in one way lower because we needed to have Jesus lay his life down for us.
  • TheBorg 2012/08/22 04:19:27 (edited)
    Yes
    TheBorg
  • SW TheBorg 2012/08/22 12:31:00
    SW
    Hey that's where she keeps going! I knew she didn't play bridge!
  • Matt TheBorg 2012/08/22 15:38:42
    Matt
    what? youre satisfied with sloppy seconds? time for you to man up and find a lady of your own, stirring someone elses porridge should not make you happier
  • kobidob... TheBorg 2012/08/24 18:42:51
    kobidobidog
    People in the beginning chose their partner or partners being faithful too them. The other way leads to conflict . How could it not lead to conflict? It has lead to conflict. Why chose conflict? Wouldn't it be humbling to not chose conflict?
  • mcmalaspino 2012/08/22 03:48:38
    Yes
    mcmalaspino
    +1
    But not quite in the way it seems the article is saying.
    It shouldn't be just about sex.
    Loving more than one person and being allowed to be with both can be extremely fulfilling and lead to much less dependency/clingy-ness and jealousy - two of the most likely things to ruin relationships.
    The polyamorous lifestyle isn't for everyone, but it is something that should be more widely considered and accepted.
  • PinkFlowerCake. 2012/08/22 03:38:04
    No
    PinkFlowerCake.
    no no no absolutely no.
  • Scott C 2012/08/22 03:35:28
    No
    Scott C
    +2
    You can't redefine something you didn't define to start with. Marriage is the most wonderfully beautiful sacred experience two people can share - the problem is that most people these days do not know the meaning and the message of marriage - we are so busy trying to please ourselves we fail to recognize the importance of being committed to each other. My vows said for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, until death do we part. Those vows have worked for thirty years and I doubt they will ever fail.
  • firelooker Scott C 2012/08/22 17:46:58
    firelooker
    +2
    Until you've been w/ your mate for over thirty years you don't know what it's like to know what trust is. My wife may not be a sexy movie star but after 40 yrs she still turns me on & I still try my very best to make our sex life good. Men need to learn that it takes two to tango and worrying about only pleasing yourself is what screws most relations up.
  • Melissa Ray 2012/08/22 03:17:49
    No
    Melissa Ray
    I really wish there was a different answer choice here, cause thats not what I wanna say, what I really wanna say is, WOW. .-.
    Here we are in this century complaining that equal marriage will DESTROY marriage, yet, clearly here, it is already corrupt
    Why can't we just have our rights and be able to marry? We're obviously not ruining anything here.
  • EddyGee53 2012/08/22 03:08:02
  • in vino veritas 2012/08/22 02:45:32
    No
    in vino veritas
    This is poppycock,in a committed relationship men and women want intimacy( which is more than just sex) the very thing they stand to lose when their partner becomes involved with another.That goes for internet affairs too, no one is going to get a free pass from me,its called cheating for a reason,your partner is losing out on what is rightfully theirs,your attention,lust,passion,love.They can take their worthless study and shove it because its contrived at the expense of those who stand to hurt the most,the unaware partner.
  • firelooker in vino... 2012/08/22 17:53:14
    firelooker
    +1
    You're right, most men cannot please two women regardless of what he may think. One of them is going to lose a certain amount of affection especially if the wife doesn't try to satisfy the husbands sexual needs or vice versa. A relationship depends on fidelity to work & if one or both parties aren't comitted to each other then the marriage wont work & things will quickly fall apart. Been there done that it was fun for awhile but trying to keep it a secret gets nerve wracking after awhile.
  • in vino... firelooker 2012/08/28 00:21:28
    in vino veritas
    Relationships suffer from selfishness the last thing we need is another person with needs brought into the mix,thanks.
  • firelooker in vino... 2012/08/28 18:45:50
    firelooker
    You're welcome.
  • luke 2012/08/22 01:42:53
    Yes
    luke
    From "man/woman" to "human/human".
  • Joker~RWAC/CFM-THE REAL POTL 2012/08/22 01:21:27
    No
    Joker~RWAC/CFM-THE REAL POTL
    I second the current top comment. The are a few reasons as to why but people don't put in the work for their relationship. It's as simple as that.
  • Twinkle 2012/08/22 00:27:44
  • Yes
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +2
    As my favorite comedian Margaret Cho say's "The secret to a great marriage is to have lots and lots of sex with as many people as possible"
  • in vino... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/08/22 02:47:35
  • Pixie·Ÿ... in vino... 2012/08/22 02:53:43
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +1
    No, no no she really did say that.
  • in vino... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/08/22 03:55:17
    in vino veritas
    +1
    A lot of people say a lot of things it doesnt make it so whats the point of being married if you want lots and lots of sexual partners stay single and detached. stds
  • Pixie·Ÿ... in vino... 2012/08/22 03:56:28
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    That is what works for them so who is to say it is wrong?
  • in vino... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/08/28 00:26:45
    in vino veritas
    In essence you are saying anything goes because it works for someone I dont agree there must be standards sexually and otherwise by which we live our lives....reality check as it involves sexual activity. sexuallt transmitted disease
  • Pixie·Ÿ... in vino... 2012/08/28 00:30:02
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    Funny story the only time i ever got an STI (thankfully it was a curable one) was in a monogamous relationship. nice try though. I am sorry you have a problem with Poly relation ships but just because you have a problem with it doesn't mean it is wrong. It is wrong to you but not to me.
  • in vino... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/08/28 00:37:35
    in vino veritas
    "the only time i ever got an STD was in a monogamous relationship" someone wasnt monogamous you prove my point and yes it is wrong just because you disagree doesnt make it ok,I feel sorry for this lost generation and how it has affected children caught in the middle of all the drama of multiple partners.Sad
  • Pixie·Ÿ... in vino... 2012/08/28 00:42:20
  • SW in vino... 2012/08/22 19:52:18
    SW
    +1
    Why not eliminate the middle man? hahah!
  • middlesex1957 2012/08/22 00:08:07
    No
    middlesex1957
    +1
    But the reality is that marriage was re-defined the day no-fault divorce became legal. Once people could get divorced without proving abuse, abandonement or adultry they flew the coop by the millions. This happened when my age group was in high school and it seemed like all our parents divorced at once. Their sexless, loveless, "battle of the sexes" marriages had been based on obligation and reproduction and it was and still is pathetic. Today most children are growing up in single parent homes or homes where the parents never have been married - so marriage has been re-defined. Those who think that same sex couples will destroy marriage because our only reason for getting married is loving care for each other until death are fools. That IS the best definition of marriage. You could learn a lot from couples who are each other's lovers and best friends.
  • LucyLucero 2012/08/21 23:32:57
    No
    LucyLucero
    +2
    It's called keeping your pants on, legs closed, and being FAITHFUL. And if you can't be faithful, don't tie the knot!

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