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Study Links Red Meat Consumption to Early Death: How Often Do You Eat Red Meat?

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Love yourself a juicy steak? And bacon on Sunday mornings? We have bad news for you. A new Harvard study finds that eating red meat -- particularly processed red meat -- is linked to dying in middle age.

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Researchers tracked the diets of more than 121,000 middle-aged men and women for up to 28 years, and found that each additional serving of red meat they ate per day was associated with a 13 percent higher risk of dying during the course of the study, Health.com reports.

Processed red meats, like hot dogs, bacon and salami, were even worse. Each additional daily serving was associated with a 20 percent higher risk of dying. But there's no need to go full-on vegetarian.

"Our message is to try to reduce the red meat consumption to less than two to three servings per week," said lead author An Pan, Ph.D., a research fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health, according to Health.com. The researchers also suggest substituting one daily serving of red meat with fish, poultry, nuts, legumes, whole grains or low-fat dairy products. Cutting back to eating red meat 2-3 times a week doesn't sound so hard. Think you can do it?

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  • Bunk11 2012/03/13 17:35:50
    Almost every day
    Bunk11
    +13
    I'd like to know who funded the study and what the political biases are of the people who conducted it. Did they take into account exercise, occupation and stress levels? Many of these studies are later shown to have been conducted by people with an axe to grind.

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  • Lucy Sabrena... 2012/04/09 20:24:57
    Lucy
    It takes years to cause the damage and it does. It causes cancer, heart disease, cholesterol, strokes etc.
  • Sabrena... Lucy 2012/04/13 21:17:25
    Sabrena Heimes
    Well, if you did research at all on this so-called 'pink slime', you would find that adding ammonia to the scraps makes it healthier than the ground beef it is put in, due to the fact that it kills almost all bacteria and prevents it from growing back again in the meat once it is outside of the process. Also, cholesterol is caused by fat, which there is very little of in it. And the ammonia process that they use to sanitize it is also used in the process of making chocolate, which nobody seems to be protesting about. Also, the picture that they used on the news was actually a dairy product, not meat.
  • Buffalo... Sabrena... 2012/04/09 21:28:39
    Buffalobill91
    lol--"it must not be too bad for us."

    did you forget the question on this page?- "Study Links Red Meat Consumption to Early Death:"
  • Piperpc 2012/03/16 00:36:03
    Never
    Piperpc
    +5
    I decided not to eat my fellow creatures many years ago. If that decision had been made on anything other than personal ethics, I doubt this study would sway me much.
    cows and pigs love
  • Buffalo... Piperpc 2012/03/16 17:02:33
    Buffalobill91
    +2
    I suppose I will say good for you... seems a bit ethically extreme but whatever floats your boat.......I agree its out of control now with "growing" animals housing them their entire life in cages, feeding them all kinds of crazy stuff to make them grow fast and fat and killing them.... based on ethics, even I have an issue with that... but how else could you feed all the sheeple?

    My daughter is a vegetarian--- but strangely enough--she will eat meat from time to time if it is "cared" for/home grown or hunted in the wild. (So it had a "life" before it became food...) I think she has it right...

    Not to go and involve religion but I think they were meant to be our food... I dont see anything wrong with killing what you eat, as long as you eat what you kill.....we have done it from the beginning of time to feed ourselves.... and I think it is more humane than what they do on those megafarms nowadays.
  • Piperpc Buffalo... 2012/03/16 18:31:29
    Piperpc
    +3
    Why does it seem "ethically extreme"? It would be extreme if I harassed others who haven't made my decision, or picketed the meat isle in my local grocery store......
    I don't delude myself that there is any "do no harm" way to feed the masses, but I do believe that if people at least ate way less meat, the suffering in factory farms would be lessened.
    I do respect your daughter's thinking, and others who share her feelings. I don't want to involve religion either, but no, animals were not originally meant to be our food. No, we have not killed animals for food since the "beginning of time".
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/03/16 23:18:25
    Lucy
    +1
    Yes, Piper!! You are so right. If a person goes by the Bible, God said that he gave every green plant for food. It is in Genesis.
  • Piperpc Lucy 2012/03/17 01:26:50
    Piperpc
    +4
    The Bible is "all over the place" about the issue of eating animals, I'd say. I choose to believe that the original plan was not animals devouring each alive, to survive. I was scolded by a relative once, when I declined the meat at a Thanksgiving dinner; she told my father, "doesn't she know that eating meat is "biblical?", like it was some kind of sin. The Bible has nothing to do with my feelings about other animals, but I have felt closest to God when I am helping and appreciating my fellow creatures.
    lion and lamb
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/03/17 04:40:44
    Lucy
    +1
    Listen, I have felt the same way. When I help the animals, I feel His pleasure. We are meant to be caretakers of his creation in my opinion, not destroyers and killers. Big and small cats do some pretty rough stuff for food, but we are supposed to be thoughtful and unlike cats, we can live on veggies.
    You wrote a beautiful answer.
  • Piperpc Lucy 2012/03/17 20:01:56
    Piperpc
    +1
    Yes, nature is very cruel, and carnivores have to be, in order to survive. Humans are not carnivores, and the origin of the word humane is "human"; go figure.........
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/03/17 23:07:29
  • Jonathan Piperpc 2012/03/22 18:30:43 (edited)
    Jonathan
    +1
    we are omnivores, it is still natural to eat meat. the prophets ate meat; that is why they treated livestock like their income. and for tidings...
  • Piperpc Jonathan 2012/03/22 20:08:38
    Piperpc
    Yes, that is what we are. We have the ability to choose whether or not to consume the flesh of other animals, so whether it is "natural" or not is a matter of opinion.
  • Buffalo... Lucy 2012/03/22 15:03:43
    Buffalobill91
    ...and not to get back on biblical stuff--- but the bible (old testament) points out what animals NOT to eat... wouldn't that imply that others were meant to be eaten? that why people of some religions to his day wont eat pork right?
  • Lucy Buffalo... 2012/04/09 20:28:55
    Lucy
    No. The reason they did not eat pigs was that pork had trichinosis, a worm, in it that could cause blindness.
  • Buffalo... Lucy 2012/04/09 21:35:59 (edited)
    Buffalobill91
    So you are trying to say it had nothing to do with biblical writings talking about a cloven hoof.... and the idea of "kosher meat" but rather that they knew about parasitic diseases thousands of years ago??? o......k.......
  • Lucy Buffalo... 2012/04/11 22:57:58
    Lucy
    Yes. They knew people got sick, they weren't stupid, and they figured out it came from the pig meat or goat. Kosher is the way the animal is killed. There was also no way to refrigerate meat in the desert then.
  • Buffalo... Lucy 2012/04/11 23:33:19
    Buffalobill91
    auh, yeah....Im not Jewish, so im no expert----but I know that's not the whole story--- I just C&P'd this from wiki as to not exhaust myself....

    (LIKE YOU SAID) "A list of some kosher foods are found in the book of Leviticus 11:1-47. There are also certain kosher rules found there. Reasons for food not being kosher include the presence of ingredients derived from non-kosher animals or from kosher animals that were not slaughtered in the ritually proper manner, a mixture of meat and milk, wine, or grape juice (or their derivatives) produced without supervision, the use of produce from Israel that has not been tithed, or the use of non-kosher cooking utensils"

    (BUT--LIKE I SAID) "With regard to animals, Deuteronomy and Leviticus state that anything which chews the cud and has a cloven hoof is ritually clean, but animals that only chew the cud or only have cloven hooves are not. The texts identify four animals in particular as being unclean for this reason: the hare, hyrax, camel, and pig — although the camel ruminates and has two toes, and the hare and hyrax are coprophages rather than ruminants. Leviticus states that every creeping thing that crawls the earth is unclean."
  • Lucy Buffalo... 2012/04/12 00:43:31
    Lucy
    Ha-ha. Okay.
  • Buffalo... Piperpc 2012/03/20 12:54:41
    Buffalobill91
    +2
    you're right... it cant be ethically extreme because its based on your personal ethics. I suppose I jumped the gun in my response.... It would only be extreme if you pushed those thoughts on others.

    I dont understand why you dont think that we have have eaten animals for food all throughout history though--- hunter/gatherer means exactly that.... even if you look back to Mesopotamia they ate mostly veggies but sometimes killed and ate their goats... If you know something more about the issue then please direct me to where I can learn about it.
  • Piperpc Buffalo... 2012/03/20 16:16:11 (edited)
    Piperpc
    +1
    Well now, I didn't say humans haven't been eating animals throughout history, but I'm almost certain it's not been since the "beginning of time". Granted it has been a very LONG time; a few million years. I don't see that as any argument for eating meat though, since we've also been killing each other throughout history. There are pretty good arguments on both sides of the issue, but no good argument to subject an animal to a life of suffering. I suspect we would agree on that.
  • Buffalo... Piperpc 2012/03/22 15:03:15 (edited)
    Buffalobill91
    +1
    potato-potatoe, tomato-tomatoe... Mesopotamia is widely recognized as the first real "civilization" so I'd consider that far enough back....

    my only point was that eating animals works as sustenance, and people have always consumed it to survive. So its not unnatural for people to do it...

    I believe we have gone WAY overboard with meat (mainly fat), salt, and sugar in the US--- hence the obesity epidemic and the other crazy health problems...

    I believe being totally vegetarian (and especially vegan-although I see nothing wrong with it) is more unnatural because the only reason in the past that people didn't eat meat was because of not having the money to obtain it on a regular basis. They farmed their foods and used livestock to work the farm... if a horse was the only animal you could afford, and he not only helped plow your field but also was your transportation---- you'd have to be a moron to eat him---right???

    Don't get me wrong- As an ethical choice I can understand why someone wouldn't eat meat (and respect it...like I said, my daughter is vegetarian so I have had this conversation before)....believe me, that first kill of a deer for me so many years ago wasnt easy...the only way I could describe it was a religious experience because I respect the planet and wildlife.
  • Piperpc Buffalo... 2012/03/22 16:22:52
    Piperpc
    +1
    As I mentioned, there are some pretty good arguments on both sides of the issue of whether it is "natural" for humans to eat other animals. I don't agree, that the only reason in the past that people didn't eat meat was because they couldn't afford to. The ethical question of how we relate to and treat our fellow creatures is an age-old one.
    I understand your point of view, and appreciate your discussing it with me. I'm glad you understand mine........we both recognize that many people eat way too much meat, and we both respect the planet and wildlife.
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/04/09 20:30:47
    Lucy
    +1
    I agree with you. Just because people have eaten meat does not mean we have to. I have not eaten any meat for 35 years. I am healthy, strong and happy, because i have a clear conscientious.
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/04/09 20:27:24
    Lucy
    +1
    You are right. In Genesis, if you want to go religion, says, "I have given you every green thing and it will be food for you." No mention of meat.
  • Piperpc Lucy 2012/04/09 22:46:52
    Piperpc
    +1
    I do believe that was the original plan, if one believes in the God of the Bible.
  • Lucy Buffalo... 2012/03/16 23:19:46
    Lucy
    +1
    You have good points too. I agree with your daughte, but I do not agree with your last paragraph. However, I am not going to tell you what to do; it has to come from your heart.
  • Lucy Buffalo... 2012/04/09 20:26:23
    Lucy
    I agree that hunting is far better than the slaughterhouse and the shipping of stressed animals.
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/03/16 23:23:36
    Lucy
    +1
    Yes, to me, the only reason not to eat meat is the ethical reason. Who am i to take another animal's life? I can live perfectly without meat.
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/04/09 20:25:22
    Lucy
    +1
    That is a lovely and to me the only reason to do it.
  • Piperpc Lucy 2012/04/09 22:54:04
    Piperpc
    +1
    My own reasons are ethical and personal, but some people do choose to eat no, or less meat, for health reasons. Whatever one's reason is, if more people ate at least far less meat, I believe it would benefit them and the environment. It goes without saying, that it would lessen the suffering of animals in factory farming.
  • Lucy Piperpc 2012/04/11 22:59:54
    Lucy
    +1
    I hope so. At least fewer animals would suffer the horrible fear of being shipped and then lined up to be killed. It would also save so much water and corn if animals were not used to meat. we could feed the entire world with soybeans and other vegetables and grains.
  • Piperpc Lucy 2012/04/12 00:25:53
    Piperpc
    +1
    There is no "do no harm" way to feed so many people now, but people ignoring what goes on in factory farming is disturbing. I do believe that people at least recognizing some of the issues that you and I are concerned about would help.
  • mema 2012/03/15 22:50:13
    About 2-3 times a week
    mema
    +2
    Here comes another study that was stopped when they reached the result they were looking for. Yum, yum to medium rare steaks, bacon on Sunday and any other day I want it chased by chicken, pork or fish. You might call me a PETA member. PeopleEatingTastyAnimals.
    Oh wait. I forgot. The latest battle cry of the HSUS/PETA (real ones) Save a chicken, Starve a child!!!
  • Chainam... mema 2012/03/16 11:04:29
    Chainamarie
    +2
    What an incredibily stupid thing to say---Being compassionate to our fellow non human earthlings mean we have to be mean or not have any caring for our own species.
    Odd??
    What is heavens name does not eating other living beings have to do with 'starving a child?
  • mema Chainam... 2012/03/16 16:15:36
    mema
    You further my belief, through exposure to, that people supporting PETA and HSUS are mentally unstable. When was the last time you showed tangible compassion to a human? An unknown to you human? RSPCA has stolen the ads once used to seek financial support for children in Africa. They now plead for monthly access to our credit cards for animals. Heck, most of the pictures shared on their sites are over 40 years old. Just reusing what has worked in the past. ANYONE stupid enough to support such a fallacy deserves to lose their shoes and socks.
  • Piperpc mema 2012/03/16 23:05:43
    Piperpc
    +2
    Showing compassion doesn't have to an either/or, of course. Those who care about the suffering of animals, and respect non-human life, do normally care about all life.

    That "People Eating Tasty Animals" thing? It is redundant to the point of idiocy.
  • Lucy mema 2012/03/16 23:26:42
    Lucy
    +1
    You have a lot of nerve to accuse us, who care for animals, of not caring for humans. You don't know us and what else we do in our lives. What do you do to help humans?
  • mema Lucy 2012/04/27 15:23:36
    mema
    You have no clue who you are talking to yet you spew demands of my every day acts and routine for your verification of my worth? I think not.
  • Lucy mema 2012/04/27 21:23:09
    Lucy
    Your crazy. You asked me what I do to help humans? So I asked you. Did you read your own writing?

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