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Study: Brain Objectifies Women as Body Parts, Men as Whole: Is Objectifying Women Natural?

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A recent study finds that our brain objectifies women as different body parts, while viewing men as a whole.
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  • morris44 2012/07/26 20:58:05
    No
    morris44
    +47
    Processing something as an object (body parts) is not the same thing as the act of objectifying women.

    Our brain also sees animals as food. But we are able to refrain from eating our cat.

    Men can (and should) act right toward women.

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  • Rave Rock 2012/07/27 19:32:47
    Rave
    I do get what you're saying, but I also think I have a point. That societal circumstances do make women feel like they have to follow certain trends, even if they are objectifying, to get ahead and get a chance at a better life.

    Especially in the past, these days if you're intelligent and a likable and hardowrking person, you can get far as a woman too. However it's rare that a woman considered unattractive by social standards will be taken as seriously as a man with these qualities, unless they are exceptionally talented in a field.

    Men are still viewed more as an individual being, while women are often generalized with certain "exceptions".

    I care about my work and education too, I also take care of my looks, but I do feel the pressure as a woman in this society often to focus more on my looks than other aspects which interest me more, and it's frustrating at times.
  • Rock Rave 2012/07/27 19:54:20
    Rock
    I agree, but again I don't think it's unique just to females. Just go back to high school (I see your profile says you are from Finland, so you might have to think of this a different way), the good looking guy that was very popular, became the quarterback for the football team, was prom king or at least in the running, always dated the cheerleaders and so on. Point being, good looking people get a lot more breaks in life.

    I often laugh when I see a pretty girl and everybody being super nice to her. I wonder if she thinks that everybody goes through life with people being so nice and helpful. I wonder if she realizes she didn't get that second interview or dream job just because of her resume. We're all to blame though, I'm sure the scientist will tell us there is some sort of chemical released in the brain that makes us feel good when we are around pretty things. It doesn't really matter if it's another person, a car, a house, the things in that house, or an ocean view, it just makes us feel good.

    Going back to dressing for success, it's just like anything else, if you want it bad enough you will jump through the hoops it takes. Whether that's getting an education, being social, being nice, not getting arrested, and looking your best. As I said much earlier, it's one thing to know what you want, it's another to know how to get it. BTW, let's not kid ourselves, the tide is turning. Women are doing to men what has been done to them for years.
  • Rave Rock 2012/07/28 11:00:56
    Rave
    Yeah of course good looking people are generally more popular, it's just how humans tend to be. But there is some extra standard when it comes to looks for women.

    A average looking man can get by if he works out, dresses decently and takes care of his hygiene. It's a healthy standard for men and it's realistic, something most men can do easily; if you're not hideously ugly you should be fine in finding success if you know what you want and work to get it. Also the "footballer" is often more respected for his skills, and not his looks. It's kind of the same here In Finland except it's usually the Ice Hockey star that everyone likes in highschool.

    For women there's all the extra effort of all these hair products, having to shave all body parts, putting on make up, the "ideal" beauty standard for women these days is unhealthy and as a result most 'good looking' women are borderline underweight and suffer from health problems due to that, high heels are not very comfortable and not healthy to be worn all the time, neither are tight clothes, and women are not excused as often for not being fashionable or dressing sloppy. You're also expected to smile more and be more charming and social, a man generally can get a away with being the silent serious type. I'm always surprised how most ...



    Yeah of course good looking people are generally more popular, it's just how humans tend to be. But there is some extra standard when it comes to looks for women.

    A average looking man can get by if he works out, dresses decently and takes care of his hygiene. It's a healthy standard for men and it's realistic, something most men can do easily; if you're not hideously ugly you should be fine in finding success if you know what you want and work to get it. Also the "footballer" is often more respected for his skills, and not his looks. It's kind of the same here In Finland except it's usually the Ice Hockey star that everyone likes in highschool.

    For women there's all the extra effort of all these hair products, having to shave all body parts, putting on make up, the "ideal" beauty standard for women these days is unhealthy and as a result most 'good looking' women are borderline underweight and suffer from health problems due to that, high heels are not very comfortable and not healthy to be worn all the time, neither are tight clothes, and women are not excused as often for not being fashionable or dressing sloppy. You're also expected to smile more and be more charming and social, a man generally can get a away with being the silent serious type. I'm always surprised how most of my male friends (Most my friends are male) don't know how much effort goes into maintaining the "ideal female" look for society. They often say that women make it hard for themselves, but the moment they are approached by an average woman looking by with her hair natural, no make up and casual clothes who is of average weight, they completely ignore her presence. It's not their fault really; the standards for women have become very high.

    The whole ideal of looks determining your success is a stronger force in woman. Like you mentioned some unqualified women being chosen for their looks, you don't hear many unqualified men being chosen for their looks, men are generally still more likely to be chosen for their skill and personality.

    I know it's no use really complaining about this matter, however I do wish it'd be more balanced out and we could get past our materialism and focus on more practical tasks. Of course you're always going to have to jump through some hoops to get where you want and that's just how it is, but sometimes it seems like I'm supporting a system which I absolutely don't even want to be a part of.
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  • Rock Rave 2012/07/28 17:06:54
    Rock
    Everything you said is true. However, I think you underestimate how much good looks, charm, and flashy clothes determine a man's success. I'm not saying it's as big of an issue for men, but it's still pretty prominent and only getting bigger as women get a larger foothold in the corporate hierarchy.

    I admire and appreciate what women have to go through. I don't however think it's wrong. If I were an employer, I'd think that someone that does not put their best foot forward in regards to their appearance, probably is not going to put their best foot forward in regards to their work ethic.
  • Sintwa 2012/07/27 00:24:34
    Yes
    Sintwa
    +5
    Biologically it makes sense. You want the child bearing hips and breasts for the babies to live off for a bit. This sounds horrible and crude but it makes sense unfortunatt. Whereas women want good genetics in men for their children and that requires all-around goodness, so would view the man as a whole.
  • Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/27 00:21:15
    Yes
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Of course it's natural! Men can be simple, carnal creatures. Who was it that said you have to spend years stomping on them and aging them before they become something you'd like to have dinner with? (comparison to fine wine)
  • laydeel... Purple ... 2012/07/27 00:24:14
    laydeelapis
    +2
    LMAO! That's hilarious!
  • ilikewater 2012/07/27 00:19:03
    No
    ilikewater
    +1
    Whose brain?
  • nataku80 ilikewater 2012/08/05 19:19:45
    nataku80
    I think it's " who's"
  • ilikewater nataku80 2012/08/06 15:49:38
    ilikewater
    Nope, it's not..
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/07/27 00:08:58
    Yes
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    They don't broadcast it, but they objectify men just as much; ever heard of Playgirl or the Chippendales?
  • sexyvgi... Christo... 2012/07/27 00:37:03
  • Christo... sexyvgi... 2012/07/27 00:39:27
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    Exactly.
  • AM sexyvgi... 2012/07/27 00:50:33
    AM
    +2
    Hey I dated twins...
  • sexyvgi... AM 2012/07/27 00:53:51
    sexyvgirl6969
    +2
    Both at the same time?
  • AM sexyvgi... 2012/07/27 00:59:30
    AM
    +2
    No i my defense they weren't identical .On my first date with one he introduced me to his twin...not his best move...lol
  • sexyvgi... AM 2012/07/27 01:01:35
    sexyvgirl6969
    +2
    lol... I haven't done twins yet, but if I do I want identical twins.
  • Boris Badinov 2012/07/26 23:40:43
    Yes
    Boris Badinov
    +3
    I'm all for body parts...
  • Squatch 2012/07/26 23:02:39
    Yes
    Squatch
    +3
    I think this is seen mostly through media the portrayal of women. They all have to be slender and beautiful and a lot of them have breast implants. Also, you have the UN recently saying prostitution should be legalized. How can you objectify women anymore than to boil them down to a commodity used for gratification?

    All I can hope is that men who think like this are blessed with a family of daughters.
  • Jesferk... Squatch 2012/07/30 22:02:40
    Jesferkicks
    A common laborer for $20 a hour technically is nothing more than a commodity used for muscle, a call-girl blessed with the wares and who develops some guile can bring home upwards of a thousand a day. Which commodity would logic support?
  • Squatch Jesferk... 2012/08/01 15:06:07
    Squatch
    Prostitutiom is not a logical argument it is a moral one and I would say the overall quality of life for a prositute is pretty poor. Most of them sell themselves for drugs. It is not like they use that money to go home and run a household.
  • The Gipper~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/26 22:52:10
    Yes
    The Gipper~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    At least for my brain it is!
  • Michelle 2012/07/26 21:52:45
    Yes
    Michelle
    +1
    Sure. I've never been inside a man's brain, though, so I can't really judge. But being natural does not mean it's good.
  • Chaya2010 2012/07/26 21:41:05
    Yes
    Chaya2010
    +3
    I have five brothers and I've heard how they speak and know to an extent how they think, men are visual creatures without a doubt.
  • ElynnKy Chaya2010 2012/07/27 01:03:08
    ElynnKy
    +1
    How visual do you think men were before the media came along to constantly bombard us all with images? We are all more visual than previous generations.
  • Chaya2010 ElynnKy 2012/07/27 09:08:37
    Chaya2010
    Possibly.
  • morris44 2012/07/26 20:58:05
    No
    morris44
    +47
    Processing something as an object (body parts) is not the same thing as the act of objectifying women.

    Our brain also sees animals as food. But we are able to refrain from eating our cat.

    Men can (and should) act right toward women.
  • ☠ Live ... morris44 2012/07/27 01:08:22
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +2
    *rave*
  • Anthony... morris44 2012/07/27 02:45:06
    Anthony Souls
    +2
    Dictionary.com
    verb (used with object), ob·jec·ti·fied, ob·jec·ti·fy·ing.
    to present as an object, especially of sight, touch, or other physical sense; make objective; externalize.

    They are transforming the concept of sex and beauty into a sensual real object.

    Sounds like objectifying to me. :P

    Take care,
  • nataku80 Anthony... 2012/08/05 19:13:12
    nataku80
    Now does that sound so bad
  • sockpuppet morris44 2012/07/27 02:55:35
    sockpuppet
    +3
    I was going to say something pretty similar to this, but not nearly as well.
  • Heisenberg morris44 2012/07/27 18:49:21
    Heisenberg
    ...and the winner of pandering to vapid minds goes to....Morris44!
  • Jesferk... Heisenberg 2012/07/28 14:44:24
    Jesferkicks
    oooo vapid ... big words
  • morris44 Heisenberg 2012/08/02 14:46:00
    morris44
    Winning!
    Finally.
  • Motley morris44 2012/07/27 19:57:50
    Motley
    +2
    The chinese would totally eat your cat
  • morris44 Motley 2012/08/02 14:49:06
    morris44
    The undercurrent of sexual euphemism is stirring.
  • Jkirk3279 morris44 2012/07/27 21:55:52
    Jkirk3279
    +1
    No, we see animals as animals. We see a steak as food.
  • morris44 Jkirk3279 2012/08/02 14:53:38
    morris44
    They always appeared as gourmet meals in the cartoons. Swinging on the swing. Back and forth. Tasty.
  • The Cru... morris44 2012/07/28 23:28:20
    The Crusher
    +1
    Define "act right". It is right. Never forget you are an animal FIRST. to be an object of desire is neither good nor bad... Right or wrong. The issue start when what you've been taught to expect or seek isn't given, in this case. You may want to be more than legs, hips, thighs and breast .... And there areany of us who notice your personality as well... But you can choose to like it or not. Guys who prefer body over mind will find girls who accept and vice versa. Right is YOUR PERSPECTIVE and your choice. Dare I ask how much you weigh?
  • morris44 The Cru... 2012/08/02 14:54:46
    morris44
    I weigh about 205 right now.

    And Im 6 feet tall.

    Oh, and I'm a dude.

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