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Student Suspended for Calling Teacher a 'Fat A--' on Facebook: Fair?

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Earlier this week, we told you that Facebook is being linked to eating disorders in teenagers. Well, it turns out that teenagers may also be using Facebook to give other people eating disorders.

A California high school student was suspended after updating his Facebook status with a nasty comment about his teacher's weight, Mashable.com reports.

High school sophomore Donny Tobolski reportedly called his biology teacher, Mr. Cimino, a "fat a-- who should stop eating fast food, and is a d-----bag" after Cimino assigned his classes three times more homework than usual in December.

Long before Facebook was invented, this was the kind of thing that kids would say out loud, or pass to each other in a note. But when Sacramento's Mesa Verde High School was notified of the Facebook post, they reportedly suspended Tobolski for one day on charges of "cyberbullying."

Wait a second -- isn't Tobolski aloud to speak (or write) his mind in his private time?

The American Civil Liberties Union had the same concern. They sent a letter to school authorities stating that Tobolski had been within his right to free speech when posting the comments, adding that school should only discipline students for similar offenses if the speech posed a threat to school functions, The San Francisco Chronicle reports.

"Schools have an obligation to provide a safe school environment," wrote ACLU lawyer Linda Lye. But "petty comments, insults, ordinary personality conflicts ... don't rise to the level of harassment."

Score one for free speech -- Mesa Verde officials have reportedly erased the suspension from Tobolski's record. But it's still mean to call people fat a--es and d-bags -- even if they do assign too much homework.

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  • TasselLady 2011/02/04 16:34:30
    Yes
    TasselLady
    +9
    Yes, he should be. It's one thing to say it privately to somebody else, but to defame the teacher's character on a public page is almost akin to slander in a newspaper. Sounds like this little punk needs a good kick in the shins or the hindquarters. Many teen have a mouth on them, and this is one example of how nasty kids can be.

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  • Kristi 2011/03/22 01:53:40
    Yes
    Kristi
    Once you put something on Facebook (or anywhere on the internet) it is "published," just like in a newspaper. Regardless of Freedom of Speech, defamation of character is unacceptable and punishable.
  • nuff sed smithyy 2011/03/20 16:57:24
    No
    nuff sed smithyy
    the student should get a second chance, and the teacher shouldn't be so sensetive.
  • MorganRae 2011/02/16 20:37:00
    No
    MorganRae
    i'm not saying beat your kids......but you need to beat your kids.
  • Jana~ una chica loca 2011/02/15 19:33:58
    Yes
    Jana~ una chica loca
    +1
    yes and No. yes because the student was supposed to be more discreet not log in to facebook and status it. use other networks that your teachers don't use. no so what how many times have kids called their teachers morons, idiots,etc. why the hell don't they just leave us alone we have a right to say,write and think whatever we want to and it's none of their damn business.
  • Sattesh 2011/02/13 05:14:00
    No
    Sattesh
    teachers don't know how to laugh things off these days.........
  • brotherplease 2011/02/07 17:10:30
    No
    brotherplease
    nah - Fat Teachers set a bad example
  • MW121 2011/02/06 14:50:19
    No
    MW121
    That's great... Maybe teacher should go on a diet and stop being like the rest of America.. FAT, OVerweight and Obese.. It's ridiculous.. Say it how it is .. you FAT. Too funny..
  • Robbb 2011/02/06 09:40:16
    Yes
    Robbb
    Sometimes we all have to cop a bit of extra work. ipublicly nsulting your teachers is definitely not good for relationship beween the teacher and her other students. That reason is enough.
  • chris 2011/02/06 08:59:07
    No
    chris
    +3
    the teacher only cares for his own personal businesses!! It has nothin' to do with school! this teacher really is a bastard
  • ASPEN 2011/02/06 08:19:38
    Yes
    ASPEN
    Good. With freedom of speech comes responsibility. We have got to get back to embracing the common sense the good Lord gave us all as well as embracing the concept of Common Decency. I thank GOD every day I am not stuck in a public school where the kids run the show vs those who should be in charge.
  • FleeWRATH2Come! 2011/02/06 07:47:13
    Yes
    FleeWRATH2Come!
    +1
    Disrespect is NEVER acceptable, especially toward leaders, like those in the honored profession of teaching.

    Suspended is too weak a punishment. He should fail the class or grade.

    "Respect or Repeat!" That's the kind of slogan used in the seatbelt campaign, "Click-it or Ticket! :)

    Disagree with me? Get in line! YOU are the source of the problem! CHANGE!
  • InvaderXion420 2011/02/06 05:55:05
  • ASPEN Invader... 2011/02/06 08:22:39
    ASPEN
    I am ashamed that someone with your potty mouth resides in the beautiful state of Colorado. Don't shame Colorado Springs with your profanity. Wise up and stop being a pin.head.
  • Invader... ASPEN 2011/02/06 14:21:36 (edited)
  • cmdrbnd007 2011/02/06 05:40:43
    Yes
    cmdrbnd007
    I'm sorry, if you are going to put stuff like that out there then you should have to suffer the consequences. Actions have consequences!
  • BoomLover cmdrbnd007 2011/02/06 06:55:58
    BoomLover
    +1
    That is why we have the First Amendment. You want to change that? Someone could use their Second Amendment Rights to back up their First Amendment Rights, because there are people out there that take their Rights Seriously! Sorry, but that kid had EVERY right to post what ever he wanted. Even if you don't agree with what he SAID, he has the RIGHT to say it!
  • cmdrbnd007 BoomLover 2011/02/07 08:28:41 (edited)
    cmdrbnd007
    The First Amendment guarantees free speech it doesn't guarantee you will not have consequences for your speech. Actions have consequences, people need to remember that.
  • Jade Renae 2011/02/06 05:38:42
    No
    Jade Renae
    +2
    yeah he insulted the teacher.. but the teacher shouldn't have assigned too much homework. teachers talk slander about students all the time and with technology evolving people are going to put the opinion on facebook, to us now, doing that is like passing a note. it wasn't nice of the guy to do, but what about all the people that probably commented in agreement to his post?
  • Superman save us 2011/02/06 05:37:52
    No
    Superman save us
    +3
    Freedom of speech. What he said was not said in school, so what he said is not the school's business. It sounds like the school broke invasion of privacy rules.
  • Joanna the Great 2011/02/06 04:39:38
    No
    Joanna the Great
    +2
    maybe the b!tch shouldn't have been such a Fat Ass.
  • Arty 2011/02/06 04:22:41
  • BoomLover Arty 2011/02/06 06:57:53
    BoomLover
    I think you aren't getting the true picture, this kid, whether or not you agree with what he said, had the RIGHT to say it! First Amendment and all, you know?
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2011/02/06 04:13:14
    Yes
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +1
    Yes! The little brat should be suspended, followed by a butt beating by his parents.
  • Treedy 2011/02/06 04:01:51
    Yes
    Treedy
    +1
    Even though he may not have made his post while within the scheduled time he was in school, it could still pose a threat to school function. This blatant unpunished disrespect could influence the rest of the students in respecting the authority of this teacher. Most people not directly faced with trying to direct young people have no idea how difficult it is to gain their respect or attention and with insubordinate little snots like this kid the task becomes even harder to reign in the rest of them just so you can attempt to better prepare them for a future they are not ready for. I've never been one to vote for directly going to suspension before conferencing with the parents, but in this situation I would not have backed down if I was the administration, he would be punished. We all have a right to speak our minds, but in doing so we have to also be willing to accept the consequences that come along with our actions. Another thing, Freedom of Speech is not a catch all that covers every little thing you want to say. If that speech infringes on another then it's justifiable to restrict it.
  • GaPch 2011/02/06 03:54:25
    No
    GaPch
    If he did not threaten the teacher then it should not be a suspendable offence and I would get an attorney if I were the children's parents.

    Kids talk about teachers...so what is new? Kids now talk on computers and texting on cell phones instead of passing notes and talking on the rotary phone.

    Now again, I stress, if a threat had been leveled, well... I think we all know enough about school tragedy to know that he should be suspended and questioned if that were to occur.

    I will however give everyone this advice that I was given when a teacher intercepted a note I had written to a boy. She said, "if you don't want everyone to know about it then Do not write it down." That is better than $300 an hour legal advice.
  • Diana GaPch 2011/02/06 03:57:19
    Diana
    Would you condone the teacher calling your kid a fat ass on face book.?
  • GaPch Diana 2011/02/06 04:07:26
    GaPch
    NO, I would not condone any such action. Nor do I "condone" what the teenager has done. However, condoning something and it being legal are too different things. (I do not condone abortion, but it is legal)

    A teacher is a contracted agent of the government (hereafter referred to as employer.) Even in America, if you want to remaind employeed...The employer calls the shots.
    A teacher cannot nor should he do such a thing such as post disparaging remarks about a student on FB.
    Case in point...A teacher was recently suspended (and possibly dismissed by now) for calling a student gay on FB. I have a relative who cannot have a FB account in her name and remain at her job.

    Again,if a threat was mentioned...this would be a different deal altogether.
  • Diana GaPch 2011/02/06 04:12:57
    Diana
    The kid was a disrespectful brat.
  • GaPch Diana 2011/02/06 04:13:17
    GaPch
    I agree.
  • Joanna ... Diana 2011/02/06 04:41:14
    Joanna the Great
    +1
    kids and teachers shouldn't be friends on facebook anyways, things like this are bound to happen. and it's weird.
  • Superma... Diana 2011/02/06 05:39:47
    Superman save us
    +1
    I wouldn't condone it but it's there right to say it.
  • Diana 2011/02/06 03:54:02
    Yes
    Diana
    That was very disrespectful.Are the parents proud of their stupid kid?
  • Angel 2011/02/06 03:52:28
    No
    Angel
    Really, why would the teacher/school even care? It's a website used to express what your thinking at that specific time, and I'd sure as hell be pissed if my school interfered with my privite life.
  • Diana Angel 2011/02/06 03:58:39
    Diana
    What about the teachers private life.His name was on face book.
  • GaPch Diana 2011/02/06 04:15:00 (edited)
    GaPch
    The teacher may have legal grounds to sue for defamation of character. Maybe?
  • Superma... GaPch 2011/02/06 05:44:15
    Superman save us
    If he did, I would counter-sue for invasion of privacy.
  • GaPch Superma... 2011/02/06 12:48:06
    GaPch
    +1
    Yes, I agree.
  • Ves~Sailor Soldier of PHAET 2011/02/06 03:26:59
    No
    Ves~Sailor Soldier of PHAET
    +1
    Get the eff off my FB!
  • ☠ Cheryl ☮ 2011/02/06 03:24:17
    No
    ☠ Cheryl ☮
    What a person does on their personal time is their business..not the schools business. now if the student had posted a threat to either the teacher or the school, or even other students, then that would be another story..still don't know that it would be grounds for suspension but a talk in the counselors office for sure.
  • JB Lover 2011/02/06 03:23:27
    No
    JB Lover
    no y would a teacher care if somone told her that shes a fat ass and y is she cheacking the persons prfile(its stupid, people have privacy and they have thoughts, you cant just suspend them just cause they mad fun off u and its not the skools bissnes its the polices bissnes)
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