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Student fined for boasting about her rack. "rack". Fair or foul?

Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/05/08 11:19:22
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An Oxford University student who prompted a sexism row by boasting about her body in an election flyer has been fined £120 for bringing the Union into “disrepute”.

Madeline Grant, a 19-year-old former model, attempted to win votes for the post of Union Librarian by writing a "draft manifesto" which contained references to her breasts.

Miss Grant, who is reading English literature and languages at St Hilda's College, wrote in the campaign material: “I don't hack, I just have a great rack."

Her comments were condemned by fellow Oxford Union members as "deeply offensive" and she was last night ordered to appear before a disciplinary committee.

Today Isabel Ernst, President of the Union, confirmed Miss Grant had been fined but said the details of the committee’s report into the incident would not be finalised for several days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9243617/Ox...
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  • BritPunk 2012/05/08 11:49:27
    Fair
    BritPunk
    +9
    Oxford is a world class prestigious educational institution, not a cheap "reality" show. Maybe boob jokes are ok in Rag Week, but the Union has a formidable reputation for scholarly debate to maintain. She just cheapened that by her sexist behaviour and insulted the male students intellectual integrity. Oxford and Cambridge are the jewels in the crown of our education system, any dumbing down must be resisted.
    And before anyone tells me to get a sense of humour, I love saucy jokes and innuendo, but there is a time and a place for them.

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  • cowboy 2012/05/15 21:39:08
    Fair
    cowboy
    She knew the rules....
  • La 2012/05/09 10:15:18
    Funny
    La
    Bit unnecessary.
  • SoCal71 2012/05/09 07:37:37
    Foul
    SoCal71
    +1
    God Bless Ameri... er... Great Britain.
  • darwolf 2012/05/09 03:46:58
    Fair
    darwolf
    +1
    I'm sure Oxford has a code of conduct. One she did not follow. So yeah fair.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/05/09 03:35:02 (edited)
  • TheDeadAreLiving 2012/05/08 21:00:38
    Foul
    TheDeadAreLiving
    +1
    Ah I should've picked funny -_- I think she's just trying to show a sense of humor
  • psiEnergos 2012/05/08 19:43:42
    Fair
    psiEnergos
    +3
    I usually don't vote this way for matters of humor, especially when it's pretty tame. the ONLY reason I am going with 'fair' on this one is because Oxford and the like are pretty strict and don't sugar coat it when you start. You get a lot by going there so you sometimes have to take the stuffiness with it (you agreed to it when you started going there, and you elected to go there, no one forced you).
  • Sheila 2012/05/08 17:50:56
    Funny
    Sheila
    No free speech rights there!!

    So it is funny.
  • Assassi... Sheila 2012/05/08 20:47:18
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +2
    First of all it was England.

    Second of all, free speech does not apply here.

    Because: When you go to a univeristy you agree abide by their code of conduct. If you violate that, they may take appropriate action against you. Period.
  • Sheila Assassi... 2012/05/10 15:13:38
    Sheila
    Ummm, I know that. That was why I said no free speech rights THERE. She was in the wrong regardless of there here or there, but it was a no brainer because of the "there" part.
  • Jenna ☮♡ッ 2012/05/08 17:30:04
    Fair
    Jenna ☮♡ッ
    +4
    Not the time or place to talk about her breasts.
  • rebecca Jenna ☮♡ッ 2012/06/07 08:46:20
    rebecca
    i think its between the two funny and fair but not foul
  • prosperhappily 2012/05/08 15:58:41
    Foul
    prosperhappily
    +4
    It was a stupid and frivolous thing to say. But, no one was hurt & Oxford's reputation will survive. I think they over reacted.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/05/08 15:37:58
    Funny
    JCD aka "biz"
    +2
    Maybe the sentence could be suspended, she removed the comment and wrote instead: "I don't hack, I'm just here for the craic".
  • Wayne TH G 333 2012/05/08 14:39:34
    Funny
    Wayne TH G 333
    +3
    Serious sense of humour failure by those who complained!
  • rand 2012/05/08 14:32:03
    Foul
    rand
    +2
    Fining someone for practicing freedom of non-slanderous speech is offensive.
  • Assassi... rand 2012/05/08 15:48:20
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +3
    First it was in England. Second of all freedom of speech doesn't trump rules you agree to abide by when you attend a school.
  • rand Assassi... 2012/05/08 20:15:43
    rand
    +1
    Why would I care where it occurred? Freedom of speech should be universal.

    Where does it say in the script offered that she violated any school rules?
  • Assassi... rand 2012/05/08 20:49:55
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +2
    Sigh.

    Her comments were condemned by fellow Oxford Union members as "deeply offensive" and she was last night ordered to appear before a disciplinary committee.

    The disciplinary committee decided that she was in violation.

    She brought "disrepute" to the union. That is how it works. If you don't like the strict line, don't go to Oxford.
  • the judgebigdogeagle-~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/08 14:03:45
    Fair
    the judgebigdogeagle-~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    was not the place to talk about your breast.Most colleges would have slide with alittle but chewing,but Oxford does not play that.
  • rebecca the jud... 2012/06/07 08:45:34
    rebecca
    +1
    i think its between the two funny and fair but not foul
  • AM 2012/05/08 13:46:36
  • Assassi... AM 2012/05/08 13:47:39
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +3
    Exactly.
  • AM Assassi... 2012/05/08 15:33:39
  • Assassi... AM 2012/05/08 15:48:45
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +3
    LOL!! is that her?
  • AM Assassi... 2012/05/08 16:07:49
  • Sheila AM 2012/05/08 17:52:13
    Sheila
    +2
    Boys tee shirts? LOL.
  • the jud... AM 2012/05/08 15:14:59
    the judgebigdogeagle-~PWCM~JLA
    Its fair there,but then we have a school that is in the Ivy league school catagory.{ Rice University} It would almost be welcomed if a girl would mention her breast in a speech..Messing with one 's Freeedom of speech at this school would not be tolerated.
  • AM the jud... 2012/05/08 15:37:02
  • AM AM 2012/05/08 15:37:21
  • Brother Bo 2012/05/08 13:42:36 (edited)
    Funny
    Brother Bo
    +3
    I'd vote for her...

    brains
  • Keith 2012/05/08 13:29:35
    Funny
    Keith
    +2
    I think it is a bit of an exaggerated response considering it was probably a joke.

    owl
  • John Storz 2012/05/08 13:20:02
    Funny
    John Storz
    +4


    Obviously, when reading her "Manifesto" it's obvious the girl has a sense of humor... and only "B" cups at best, so really not all that great of a rack...
  • Charles E 2012/05/08 13:16:16
    Foul
    Charles E
    +3
    But there is no First Amendment freedon of speech in England.
  • Sandman366 2012/05/08 12:46:34 (edited)
    Foul
    Sandman366
    +1
    Can't help but notice there's no picture of it too. ;)
    Tricky to answer unless they actually show a picture of it. (:P)
  • Assassi... Sandman366 2012/05/08 13:48:10
  • Sandman366 Assassi... 2012/05/08 16:04:09
    Sandman366
    +1
    Well there's no real way to know how fair or foul it is. If she's lying and she's got a chest flatter than how the world was believed to be, then it's quite justified for her stupidity.
  • psiEnergos Sandman366 2012/05/08 19:40:23
    psiEnergos
    +1
    Actually...there sorta is (a picture). Click the link. When the story loads, the main picture is a slide show. One of the pics shows her 'assets' and another the manifesto. So the full perspective on the story is there, just obscured a little more than usual ;-D
  • Sandman366 psiEnergos 2012/05/09 11:40:21
    Sandman366
    Okay, based on that it's not completely unfair, it's more her stupidity, but I don't think getting fined is really the best way to teach her that her rack ain't exactly something to boast about...
  • CAPISCE 2012/05/08 12:27:38
    Funny
    CAPISCE
    +3
    It's sounds like desperation to me but all's fair in Love and Politics

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