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Fef 2012/06/08 20:37:52
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Jake Balthazor, a 15-year-old student in Coon Rapids, a northern suburb of Minneapolis, got in trouble for wearing black and silver rosary honoring his cancer-stricken grandmother. The school said it will let Jake keep the beads in his pocket. The school district’s policy forbids any “apparel, jewelry, accessories or matter of grooming which by virtue of its color arrangement, trademark or any other attribute denotes membership in an organized gang.”

Jake doesn't belong to a gang, but other may not know that and get confused. The school suggests it may cause violence on campus from other gangs from the confusion.

“He was told not to wear it again,” Chad Balthazor said Thursday. “He was upset when he came home from school. A teacher sent him down to the office, but the reason he was wearing it was for his grandmother.”A Minnesota high school student who wears rosary beads to school in support of his cancer-stricken grandmother was ordered to pocket them by school district officials, who said the beads could be a symbol of gang membership.

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  • rockyjr5 2012/06/08 22:19:44
    Unfair
    rockyjr5
    +3
    If he wants to wear Rosary beads to honor his Grandma than he should. The school should stop crying like babies.

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  • bob 2012/06/10 06:39:52
    Fair
    bob
    I have to say that the policy, if consistently applied, is fair and necessary. I will echo what Willie has said elsewhere. Gang activity is real and 'colors" can be other than bandannas or jackets.
  • BreakingThrough 2012/06/09 21:14:13
    Unfair
    BreakingThrough
    I personally think it is unfair. Though, I wouldn't go to a school that didn't allow those things. I guess I'll have to watch out for the rosary beads...those kids might be confused...or in a gang. :/
  • The Black Dagger 2012/06/09 18:16:34
    Unfair
    The Black Dagger
    The Liberal desire to suppress any form of Christianity has begun to get out of hand.

    I'm not even a Christian and I can see that plain as day.
  • Jackal 2012/06/09 08:39:12
    Unfair
    Jackal
    Really?
  • wolfshadow 2012/06/09 07:56:12
    Unfair
    wolfshadow
    +1
    First I wasn't aware that catholics were considered a gang...

    Second, I believe we have what is called freedom of religion. Does that not violate his Constitutional rights?
  • The Bla... wolfshadow 2012/06/09 18:15:10
    The Black Dagger
    +1
    Only if he wasn't allowed to throw his Muslim prayer rug on the floor.
  • tobe wolfshadow 2012/07/20 02:01:15 (edited)
    tobe
    they aren't a gang. there are gangs that wear rosaries (like a gang symbol)there are also gangs who's symbol is the virgin mary . it doesn't make them religious.
    (im not taking up for the school btw, I think they robbed him of religious freedom. I'm just clarifying.)
  • Charmaine 2012/06/09 07:44:50
    Unfair
    Charmaine
    First Amendment grants us freedom of religion and it is the fault of the school that they don't know that a rosary is all about!!! What bothers me about the rosary is when NonCatholics wear it to make a fashion statement, that is NOT COOL!!!
  • Willie 2012/06/09 06:05:31
    Fair
    Willie
    +2
    When they first banned them where I work, I got all up on my soapbox about religious freedom and freedom of expression and whatnot. Then some of my students wised me up. It's for real. There are gangs, especially Latino gangs, that are using rosary beads as identifiers. A kid who wears one for something other than gang related reasons may be innocent, and within his constitutional rights, but he's also taking a big risk - he could be mistaken for a gang member by someone from a rival gang, and get jumped.

    It's important that schools keep all gang identifiers out of schools - tags, colors, jewelry, etc. If a gang member wants an education, he should be required to prove that he is willing to leave gang activity and gang affiliation outside the school walls. It's the only way to keep the school (relatively) safe for everyone.

    For what it's worth, I know what I'm talking about here. About 15% of the student body at my school is affiliated with one of the major adult street gangs.
  • cynsity 2012/06/09 04:34:01
    Unfair
    cynsity
    I am a little torn... in school districts with high gang activity schools do have to be extra precausious however they make pink plastic rosaries they make them made with natural wood and stones they make them with sergical steel and all can be had just about anywhere...

    I am also disappointed wearing a rosary like a necklace is actually inapproprate. Rosaries are not jewlery they are more often worn at the hip on a belt or around the wrist when they are being carrried outside of a case or pouch. And if his rosary is a heirloom he shouldn't be risking it getting snagged and breaking.

    Although I am not a Christian I still have the ivory and cherrywood rosary taht was my great great grandmothers I have it in a protective case and when my child marrys I will hand it down to her as a "something old" (my daughter is a tradtional catholic) but I think she will likely still use her cheep one for every day mass and prayer because the rosery is fragile
  • Jen 2012/06/09 02:16:24
    Unfair
    Jen
    The whole "rosaries may indicate gang membership" thing sounds like an excuse.

    The "gang membership" thing doesn't seem to be what the school is really concerned with here. They're just seizing on that as an excuse to silence religious expression, which the secularists running our schools these days just can't stand.

    Having said that, though, as Catholics we are not meant to wear rosaries -- unless we are a member of a religious order that wears them on its habit. Rosaries are meant to be carried, as well as to use as aids in prayer -- they are not meant to be worn as apparel, not even in memory of a deceased family member.
  • Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦ 2012/06/09 02:14:59
  • Willie Yuki ~ ... 2012/06/09 05:52:25
    Willie
    +2
    It's correct. I don't know what's going on in Minnesota, but in Phoenix, and in L.A. gangs, especially Latino gangs, are using different colored rosaries to denote affiliation. They're usually quite large in comparison to what I was used to while growing up Catholic, and I've seen silver, black, black and silver, and brown. Most schools have pretty strict policies against wearing any sort of gear that can connote gang membership.

    Real Catholics don't wear rosaries as jewelry, by the way. Members of some religious orders hang them from their belts, but no one would wear one around their neck.

    If what goes on in Phoenix is going on in Minnesota, this boy should consider himself lucky that the school stopped him from wearing the beads before some gang-bangers decided they didn't like it.
  • cm 2012/06/09 01:21:04
    Unfair
    cm
    but I'd bet they would let a muslim wear head gear
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/06/09 00:46:24
    Unfair
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    Students should be able to wear jewelry that reflects their religion, be it Pagan, Monotheistic or anything else.

    It's school staff that has to be careful not to promote their religion at work.
  • Starman 2012/06/08 22:59:03
    Fair
    Starman
    +2
    The same folks saying this is unfair would rush to prevent a student for wearing something proclaiming their Muslim faith, or god forbid (pun intended) an Atheist t-shirt.
    wearing proclaiming muslim faith god forbid pun intended atheist t-shirt
  • Lili13 2012/06/08 22:47:01
    Unfair
    Lili13
    +2
    How on earth does that cause confusion ? seriously
  • gregaj7 2012/06/08 22:45:48
    Unfair
    gregaj7
    +1
    Home-School!!!!!
  • Bunk11 2012/06/08 22:32:13
    Unfair
    Bunk11
    +2
    Is there a gang that uses rosary beads as its symbol? (Besides the Catholic church, I mean.) I'm not Christian, but I don't see why wearing religious symbols should be a problem.
  • Jen Bunk11 2012/06/09 02:11:55
    Jen
    A couple of things:

    a) The Catholic Church does not "use rosary beads as its symbol." The beads are used for those who voluntarily choose to pray the Rosary. (Praying the Rosary, while highly encouraged, is not required of Catholics.)

    The beads are not used as a "symbol" of the Church, or of anything for that matter. They are an aid in prayer, nothing more.

    b) The Catholic Church, as I'm sure you know, is not a "gang."
  • Yuki ~ ... Jen 2012/06/09 02:14:52
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +1
    "b) The Catholic Church, as I'm sure you know, is not a "gang.""

    It sure runs like one.
  • Bunk11 Jen 2012/06/11 04:37:23
    Bunk11
    Poor word choice on my part. Sorry. I know the rosary beads aren't the symbol of the Catholic Church, but they are a symbol of Catholic faith. I didn't really mean to imply either that the Catholic Church in 2012 is a gang. (Not to say it wasn't 500 years ago.)
  • rockyjr5 2012/06/08 22:19:44
    Unfair
    rockyjr5
    +3
    If he wants to wear Rosary beads to honor his Grandma than he should. The school should stop crying like babies.
  • sky blue pink - American 2012/06/08 22:14:52
    Unfair
    sky blue pink - American
    +1
    I will keep his Grandma in my prayers.
    Have a good one !
  • Onyx11 2012/06/08 21:30:20
    Fair
    Onyx11
    +1
    It was for his safety. Coon Rapids is a northern suburb of Minneapolis. Northern Minneapolis is kind of an unsafe place with gangs violence.
  • retrograve Onyx11 2012/06/08 21:47:01
    retrograve
    [So off topic but your picture is Tarzan's mom isn't it?]
  • Onyx11 retrograve 2012/06/08 23:24:05
    Onyx11
    Haha, yes it is Tarzan's mom.
  • Mechelle 2012/06/08 21:14:48
    Unfair
    Mechelle
    +3
    More and more Spanish gang members are wearing rosarys around their neck and some even hanging.g them on their front door. If its a rule of the school for this reason, then,,,,, I DO however feel sorry for the boy and I'm glad he can at least keep it in his pocket. God Bless his grandmother.
  • gvc 2012/06/08 21:13:14
    Unfair
    gvc
    +2
    Completely stupid. Explain what connection rosary beads have with gangs.
  • Mechelle gvc 2012/06/08 21:19:58
    Mechelle
    +1
    Where we live is a symbol of which gang you are in depending on the color of the beads. If you drive in the "hood" you can look at the doors of the homes and tell by the rosary hanging on the door and color of it, what gang is in that neighborhood. Why do they use rosarys? Who knows. I think its to pretend they are catholic and religious. But judging by what they DO, that's a hard pill to swallow.
  • gvc Mechelle 2012/06/08 21:30:14
    gvc
    +1
    Wow, I wasn't aware of that. Probably a good idea for him not to wear it to school then.
  • Mechelle gvc 2012/06/08 21:36:33
    Mechelle
    +2
    Yea, I know its pretty bad here. In those neighborhoods, you hear gunshots all the time. That is why we moved away. Once we found out what it was all about, we were gone.
  • Dagon 2012/06/08 21:10:59
  • Mechelle Dagon 2012/06/08 21:22:40
    Mechelle
    +1
    Well not to be rude but its a lot different then back when you were in school. A lot different.
  • Dagon Mechelle 2012/06/09 01:22:46
  • Mechelle Dagon 2012/06/09 02:29:00
    Mechelle
    +1
    I know when i was younger in grade school, I would get a smack on the bottom if I did bad things. It worked on me.
  • Farnsworth 2012/06/08 21:10:21
    Unfair
    Farnsworth
    +2
    but if[...]flopped a prayer rung on the floor that would be OK.
  • Mark In Irvine 2012/06/08 21:07:54
    Fair
    Mark In Irvine
    after all, Catholics do tend to band together when treating heretics with these "disciplinary" techniques (all of which are an undisputed matter of history): burning at the stake, disemboweling, torture on the rack, spikes into both eyes then burning alive, being forced to sit on a huge pointed spike until it split their bodies apart starting at the rectum, and many other things ... and such violent acts by a band of like-minded individuals does resemble gang activity after all ...
  • Metaldane 2012/06/08 21:05:44
    Fair
    Metaldane
    If you don't like it start going againat gangs or stop whining either way is better then claiming "It's liberal atheist scumbags" like one of the prejudice pricks below answered.
  • Sew 2012/06/08 21:03:15
    Unfair
    Sew
    +1
    Get rid of the gangs not the beads. The fact that we can't wear certain colors or clothes because of gangs says alot.

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