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St. Louis Mom Encourages Toddlers to Fight in Video Posted on Facebook: Should Child Welfare Officials Get Involved?

mrosen814 2012/07/05 20:00:00
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In a video posted on Facebook this past Sunday, a St. Louis woman is seen yelling at children and instigating violence, saying things like, “Got some action! Got some action! Y’all better ball up some fists!” A source who knows the woman who posted the video told St. Louis TV station KTVI that the mother needed to be stopped. Do you think social services should get involved?

HUFFINGTONPOST.COM reports:
Child welfare officials may soon investigate a St. Louis woman because of a video where she instigates a fistfight between two diaper-clad kids.

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  • MO.gal 2012/07/08 03:09:36
    Yes
    MO.gal
    +5
    These children are still in diapers. This woman needs to be checked out by social services. The "source" who knows the woman may know other things she is doing that is harmful to those children.

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  • Kashee 2012/07/07 00:11:49
    Yes
    Kashee
    +2
    Child welfare should get involved immediately.
  • Selketskiss 2012/07/06 23:45:34
    Yes
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Why are people surprised...these are the FTOA...Future Thugs Of America. This is how they are raised...
  • Stryder 2012/07/06 23:19:15
    Yes
    Stryder
    +4
    She needs to lose those kids. And people wonder why kids grow up to be violent criminals.
  • Inquisitve Kat 2012/07/06 23:10:12
    Yes
    Inquisitve Kat
    +2
    I'd say she warrants some looking into...
  • FineCut69 2012/07/06 20:57:44
    Yes
    FineCut69
    +3
    Southpark is a TV show not to be emulated at home...
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/07/06 20:55:33
    Yes
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    But what is the government going to do? The government couldn't pour pee out of a boot with directions on the heel.

    Sadly, this is just another tidbit of information that leads me to believe that these truly are the End Times.
  • nancyisnow CUDDLY ... 2012/07/10 00:47:58
    nancyisnow
    What is the government going to do??? The government - the big bad government - who rightfully puts criminals in jail, can nip these future criminal rearing in the bud, put this violent mother into parenting classes, check her for crack, and alcohol, and put these toddlers into a better home until or unless she can be rehabilitated.
  • CUDDLY ... nancyisnow 2012/07/10 04:17:25
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    When that actually happens, let me know ......
  • Heisenberg 2012/07/06 20:52:21
    No
    Heisenberg
    +2
    Sounds like good parenting to me
  • frequent–antagonist 2012/07/06 20:29:57
    No
    frequent–antagonist
    +2
    Parents should be able to raise their children however they so desire.

    Besides, children deserve to learn how to fight. Everyone does. This world is too pampered.
  • SlaveWa... frequen... 2012/07/06 20:55:14
    SlaveWaterNymph
    +3
    so its okay to abuse them as well. Okay
  • frequen... SlaveWa... 2012/07/06 21:02:37
    frequent–antagonist
    'Okay'.
  • stephan... SlaveWa... 2012/07/08 02:58:34
    stephanie.turner.16503
    How is this abuse? You obviously have no children nor experience with children. That's what they do and most grow up to be respectable, responsible adults. Some of them even grow up to be drama queens (yes, I'm looking at you)
  • nancyisnow stephan... 2012/07/10 00:52:26
    nancyisnow
    Mothers who stick up for bullying and toddlers "working it out" are usually bullies themselves. Babies should learn to play, and not see the world as a hostile place before they learn to say, "please" and "thank you" or they'll grow up to be combative, bombastic, abusive, and grow up to wonder why other kids ostracize them.
  • nancyisnow frequen... 2012/07/10 00:51:54
    nancyisnow
    Mothers who stick up for bullying and toddlers "working it out" are usually bullies themselves. Babies should learn to play, and not see the world as a hostile place before they learn to say, "please" and "thank you" or they'll grow up to be combative, bombastic, abusive, and grow up to wonder why other kids ostracize them.
  • Lord Emperor of Dune 2012/07/06 19:21:15
    Yes
    Lord Emperor of Dune
    +3
    Undecided would have been nice here. This lady and the situation look pretty bad, but I encourage my kids to defend themselves in certain situations too. And you also have to consider that the Welfare system is just another way for the Left to get inside your homes and tell you how to raise your kids. Do you want that? I know I don't.

    Nevertheless, raising your kids like Michael Vick raises dogs is bad, so this "lady" went too far...
  • nancyisnow Lord Em... 2012/07/10 00:54:33
    nancyisnow
    It's not the "left" just because it's a government agency! The police are a government agency. Should we cut the police, and let the criminals and citizens just "work it out?"
  • Lord Em... nancyisnow 2012/07/10 03:14:08
    Lord Emperor of Dune
    It is the left. People on the right are far more likely to leave people to tend to their own affairs... Small government in Washington, small government in the home. TRADITIONAL conservatives or libertarians.
  • Scott (o)(o) 2012/07/06 19:12:21
    Yes
    Scott (o)(o)
    +3
    Stupid Bitch ... great parenting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • MlssCue =Go Blue= 2012/07/06 19:08:45
    Yes
    MlssCue =Go Blue=
    +2
    Obvious answer.....yes.
  • Royo 2012/07/06 18:03:09
    Yes
    Royo
    +3
    Wow.. some people are just so stupid.
  • Bill Sundling 2012/07/06 16:38:18
    Yes
    Bill Sundling
    +2
    Obviously. She shouldn't have custody of her kids.
  • Deactivated 2012/07/06 16:29:28
    Yes
    Deactivated
    +2
    Wow some mom she is Facepalm
  • Angryface01 2012/07/06 15:29:00
    No
    Angryface01
    +1
    Based solely on the video content alone, there isn't enough information there to formulate any opinion on the scenario. Yes, it's shocking. Yes, it's ghastly. Yes, I first jumped to conclusions and got angry. And then my common sense program kicked in.

    People "like me" voted 83% that YES, child welfare officials should get involved. Why did I vote against my "peers?" Because the video doesn't satisfy key criteria. 1. Neither child was directly involved in a physical conflict with an adult. 2. The adult's commentary while disgusting to ME was not compelling enough to indicate that she was actually encouraging violence.

    I would never speak to any child like that. I would never encourage violence, and certainly would never advocate any child to try to resolve interpersonal conflict by means of physical violence. My parenting skills were learned over many years from intelligent women who excelled at "loving guidance, discipline and redirection." That ideal is what *I* find crucial to being a good parent. MY ideal is my own and I don't have the right to impose it on others. Whatever was going on in this family, the video is not sufficient evidence when you start to think about crawling into her rear with a microscope.

    Think also of that video clip from Walmart secur...

    Based solely on the video content alone, there isn't enough information there to formulate any opinion on the scenario. Yes, it's shocking. Yes, it's ghastly. Yes, I first jumped to conclusions and got angry. And then my common sense program kicked in.

    People "like me" voted 83% that YES, child welfare officials should get involved. Why did I vote against my "peers?" Because the video doesn't satisfy key criteria. 1. Neither child was directly involved in a physical conflict with an adult. 2. The adult's commentary while disgusting to ME was not compelling enough to indicate that she was actually encouraging violence.

    I would never speak to any child like that. I would never encourage violence, and certainly would never advocate any child to try to resolve interpersonal conflict by means of physical violence. My parenting skills were learned over many years from intelligent women who excelled at "loving guidance, discipline and redirection." That ideal is what *I* find crucial to being a good parent. MY ideal is my own and I don't have the right to impose it on others. Whatever was going on in this family, the video is not sufficient evidence when you start to think about crawling into her rear with a microscope.

    Think also of that video clip from Walmart security cameras, where the woman was beating her child who was strapped into her car seat. I can't find the link, but it was on youTube for a long time. If you find it, can you ping me and I can post it... anyhow. This woman on the video was clearly assaulting a child. You could clearly see that a child strapped into a car seat was being hit repeatedly. THAT is what I mean by "compelling." It has to be absolutely clear what is happening and it has to be clearly definable.

    There's just not enough evidence or information from this video to make any sort of legal decision from my point of view.
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  • Bill Su... Angryfa... 2012/07/06 16:39:20
    Bill Sundling
    +1
    There are objective standards for parenting. They need to be imposed on others for the good of the children.
  • Angryfa... Bill Su... 2012/07/06 20:11:03
    Angryface01
    True. Just as there is a universal morality. However, does this video clip satisfy any of the queries one would pose in a child abuse case?
  • Sodahead Founders are Fascists 2012/07/06 15:17:10 (edited)
    Yes
    Sodahead Founders are Fascists
    She'd make him proud:
    proud
  • joy.rocco.94 2012/07/06 14:54:43
    Yes
    joy.rocco.94
    +1
    How horrific , she needs mental help, that sadist, my heart burst for those babies.
  • D S 2012/07/06 14:53:17
    Yes
    D S
    +2
    Lowlife Morons...
  • rcardon 2012/07/06 14:46:59
    Yes
    rcardon
    +1
    What is this woman doing, raising her kids to be gangsters? Yeah, those kids need to be removed from that home and the mother needs therapy, seriously.
  • Groundskeeper Willy 2012/07/06 14:21:55
    Yes
    Groundskeeper Willy
    +1
    in the world of cell phone video, a lot of criminal prosecutions do and will occur.
    the question is should Child Services get in Involved? truth is, they probably have been for some time.
  • april 2012/07/06 13:21:25
    Yes
    april
    +1
    I HATE when women don't take their role as a mother seriously!!! And if she actually thinks she is acting like a mother should, I think someone needs to intervene...and fast!!!
  • the fuze 2012/07/06 10:29:43
    Yes
    the fuze
    +1
    BUT... putting the video on Facebook was NOT the way to go about this course of action. The person who recorded the video should have simply taken that video to child services if she had such a concern, but her self-centeredness overwhelmed her and she put it out on F.B. for all the world to see. Nobody but child services needed to see this. Facebook, and YouTube and anything like them is what is helping to bring us down. It's too bad, they can be very useful tools.
  • Weronikus 2012/07/06 07:50:09
    Yes
    Weronikus
    +1
    Definitely yes. Children should not be encouraged to fight. It's awful. What kind of mother would want her child hurt? It reminds me of dog fights. Awful, disastrous.
  • Prophet 2012/07/06 06:50:05
    Yes
    Prophet
    +3
    Evil woman. She definitely needs some concealing herself. But watching her it probably will not do any good. May God save her children from the revolving door of the prison system.
  • beach bum 2012/07/06 05:57:21
    Yes
    beach bum
  • Justin Teufel Hunden 2012/07/06 05:07:18
    Yes
    Justin Teufel Hunden
    +2
    Without a doubt. When I was a child, other kids always got the new Nike Jordan's. Most of these kids were products of welfare. My point is that at that time more money was given if you had more kids. Disgusting. South Tejas.
  • Mary Bostrom 2012/07/06 04:54:33
    Yes
    Mary Bostrom
    +2
    This is the age when they should be taught how to resolve things without being violent. To encourage fighting between small children and then taping it, pure ignorance!
  • Marianne 2012/07/06 04:18:50
    Yes
    Marianne
    +1
    That is cruelty.
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/07/06 02:57:24
    Yes
    C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT
    +2
    only in the Lou, smh

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