Sorry but i really want to know why most women aka American women(if I'm wrong let's say some) destroy/destroying marriages and relationships here in America:read below to understand

by Cloud Posted 2012/08/21 15:09:15

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Fellow sodaheads i assure you I'm not attacking anyone and I'm no way attacking America since I'm American guy myself this bugged me i really really wanted to know what the hell's going on in America for marriages and relationships to be this bad i notice stuff that show my proof,

So I'm sorry but i really want to know why most women aka American women(if I'm wrong let's say some) destroy marriages and relationships here in America?:read below to understand

It's like this and please bear with me if you are your true self a nice guy she dumps you,divorce you,cheat on you etc. and they always want drama and they are never happy with you but however if you the opposite and act like a complete jerk she loves you but however foreign women in general not all loves nice guys and no no I'm not racist and i admit i think to myself they are hot at times and yes i know they are attractive and they are nicest people from my experiences.

And Here in America the divorce rates are very very high and a high risk and hot American girls just let me say they are only good for is sex and one night stands and treat her like shit aka a complete jerk she loves you and she wanted to be with you and she always wanted what she can't have.

Another example is most foreign women mainly Muslims wait till marriage to have sex and i don't know is there any other cultures who believes in this while in America women and girls want nothing but sex,drama and money from good men no no i didn't say all i mean most and yes in general speaking.

And they never like nice guys and good men of their American counterpart while foreign women mostly like and love us and respected us for who we are and never wanted to change us and women and girls in America is opposite wants to change you into a guy she wanted you to be.

And if this does not sound like me then this is not talking to you i am talking to those who i described she knows what am i exactly talking about and she always cry no nice guys around i post a link below what happen to us then maybe just maybe you wake the fuck up and get your head out of your asses then maybe you'll get a true nice guy.

Yes i know it sounds racist,sexist whatever I'm not racist and I'm hell not sexist i speak nothing but the truth the truth hurts like a bitch don't it sorry i have to say that line thanks for reading,understanding and help me out and sorry i am starting to think of never get a girlfriend,a wife no getting marry and no relationships.

Because I'm saving my virginity till marriage and i expect her to do the same anyway take care and when you respond i want the complete and full truth no matter how harsh and if i won't who will a huge muscle man anyway take your time and respond or not i don't give a fuck :).

Sister Jean 2012/08/21 15:36:07

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why blame the women men cheat more?
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sockpuppet 2012/08/22 11:56:45

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You want honesty? This whole "nice guy" thing is just designed to paint you as a victim so you don't have to face the truth: you're as screwed up as the women you're failing with so badly.

Think of all the women you meet that you won't give a second glance because you don't find them physically attractive. They're too fat, or too skinny, or too plain or... whatever.

They're "nice" girls, and you won't give them the time of day. Sound familiar?

SO. Half of the 20-something females on Earth are out of your reach, and the rest are under your radar. There must be a solution here somewhere... you've tried the 'victim' thing to no avail. "Hope" doesn't seem to be working out for you, and being nauseatingly passive seems to have failed-- inexplicably.

My advice: if you want a woman, get out there and start meeting them. At 24, you're supposed to be doing this stuff-- there's no shame in it. Rejection is a fact of Life. But so is success. And sex is nothing magical or mysterious. Just figure out what you're willing to endure in a partner, square your shoulders and get out there and meet people.

If you don't want a drunk, stay out of the bars. If you don't want to be played, don't flash the cash. If you don't want a prefab family, avoid single mothers.

And...

You want honesty? This whole "nice guy" thing is just designed to paint you as a victim so you don't have to face the truth: you're as screwed up as the women you're failing with so badly.

Think of all the women you meet that you won't give a second glance because you don't find them physically attractive. They're too fat, or too skinny, or too plain or... whatever.

They're "nice" girls, and you won't give them the time of day. Sound familiar?

SO. Half of the 20-something females on Earth are out of your reach, and the rest are under your radar. There must be a solution here somewhere... you've tried the 'victim' thing to no avail. "Hope" doesn't seem to be working out for you, and being nauseatingly passive seems to have failed-- inexplicably.

My advice: if you want a woman, get out there and start meeting them. At 24, you're supposed to be doing this stuff-- there's no shame in it. Rejection is a fact of Life. But so is success. And sex is nothing magical or mysterious. Just figure out what you're willing to endure in a partner, square your shoulders and get out there and meet people.

If you don't want a drunk, stay out of the bars. If you don't want to be played, don't flash the cash. If you don't want a prefab family, avoid single mothers.

And don't even mess with a woman who appears distressed over a recent breakup. You may think you're laying the groundwork for some noble future relationship by "being there" for them in their hour of need, but you're not. She's going to get back together with the guy who broke her heart (or someone exactly like him) because that's who she wants.
If she needs support, let her turn to her girlfriends. You have better things to do.

Ready... GO!
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Cloud to sockpuppet 2012/08/22 12:03:07 (edited)

most of them by now in their 20's+ and older already lose their virginity by then and have baby daddy issues boom she is now bitter to nice guys because we are nice and didn't do anything wrong to her and most women only want 4 things they are money,sex,drama and experience men and they hate virgin men.

And if you give her all 4 including never care about her never emotional no nothing she is happy and she loves you duh and like i said I'm saving my virginity till marriage and i expect her to do the same or i just give up and die alone as a virgin and I'm doing what god command me to do wait till marriage.

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sockpuppet to Cloud 2012/08/22 12:34:41

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You really need religion holding you back in your quest for happiness? Just get out there and start meeting real women. Making excuses isn't going to get you anywhere.

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Deandra to sockpuppet 2012/08/22 22:26:06

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B00M! That was good.

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Deandra 2012/08/22 02:16:51

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Women are very sensitive creatures and if you really take the time to understand us you might be surprised to find out how often we are degraded by men and also abused either verbally, sexually, or mentally.

A woman doesn't go out to destroy. It's not in our nature. We bear the children. She may just be lashing out in response to how she was treated by a man. Once a man has lost her trust, it's hard for her to trust any man.

But we work on it.

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Cloud to Deandra 2012/08/22 05:29:37

if you don't believe what us nice guys go through or don't understand what us nice guys go through then read the link below i gave you guys

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Deandra to Cloud 2012/08/22 22:41:14

No I believe 'nice' guys go through ordeals just as much as nice girls. Let me tell you something about 'nice' guys. My ex husband claimed to be a 'nice' guy. He played video games and claimed to be this dashing young gent. Well, here's the thing. He wasn't to me. He hit me, swore at me, and threw things. Some 'nice' guy huh?

Look. I'm not saying you're like that. But he still parades around talking about how he is such a nice guy. You know why? He IS nice to certain people. The pretty, svelte, confident, as-close-to-perfect-as-you-ca... kind of person. Well... if you are only this 'nice' guy to a select few then NEWS FA-LASH! That doesn't make you a nice person. Getting on the religious side of things... God talks about loving those who don't love you. If you love only those who love you, well... pshaw... a pharisee can do that. So if you aren't nice to all females... you're not truly a nice guy.

I was the girl who wasn't thin enough to give the time of day to. When he was with me you know what his life was like? Video game almost every week. An apartment to live in. Flatscreen, not having to lift a finger, and someone to drive him around anywhere he wanted, were all things he HAD. Without me...? Motel room with nothing.

See what I'm getting at? If he had just been a 'nice' gu...

No I believe 'nice' guys go through ordeals just as much as nice girls. Let me tell you something about 'nice' guys. My ex husband claimed to be a 'nice' guy. He played video games and claimed to be this dashing young gent. Well, here's the thing. He wasn't to me. He hit me, swore at me, and threw things. Some 'nice' guy huh?

Look. I'm not saying you're like that. But he still parades around talking about how he is such a nice guy. You know why? He IS nice to certain people. The pretty, svelte, confident, as-close-to-perfect-as-you-ca... kind of person. Well... if you are only this 'nice' guy to a select few then NEWS FA-LASH! That doesn't make you a nice person. Getting on the religious side of things... God talks about loving those who don't love you. If you love only those who love you, well... pshaw... a pharisee can do that. So if you aren't nice to all females... you're not truly a nice guy.

I was the girl who wasn't thin enough to give the time of day to. When he was with me you know what his life was like? Video game almost every week. An apartment to live in. Flatscreen, not having to lift a finger, and someone to drive him around anywhere he wanted, were all things he HAD. Without me...? Motel room with nothing.

See what I'm getting at? If he had just been a 'nice' guy and not so superficial with having to have the trophy girl, then he would be living the high-life. But the thing about guys like that is they throw that all away. All because they are egotistical.

Okay now I know I've rambled about my problems which was not what you were asking but hey... if you want a truly good girl they are going to be those types of girls who don't fit the norm. They aren't models or actresses. But you know what? They are SO much better than that! They have substance!

Wouldn't you rather take that then a fake?
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L1 2012/08/21 17:30:10

It's not good to absolutes against anyone and it is also illogical. I never cheated on anyone, but had the reverse done to me, and abstain unless the relationship is heading for something serious. My own mother was cheated on by my dad, by she never did, and others I knew where the man was the cheater. Point is that men cheat just like women do, but don't get really held to same standard.

Using women is Muslim countries isn't really a good example because in so many cases, they really have no choice and it doesn't mean that double standards don't exist there for men and women.

As for divorce, it's better a good divorce than a bad marriage. I wouldn't be here to post to you today if my parents remained married. The difference is in Western societies, divorce has lost it's stigmatization overall, and among both sexes.

The truth is not all relationships will work out, and you won't win each time, but you won't lose either. A lot of people romanticize relationships when the truth is that they take a lot of work to continue and maintain on both sides. Plus, there is no "Prince" nor "Princess Charming", but rather who is right for you and vice-versa.

Getting through pain and hurt to learn to love and trust again takes work, but is worth it. How the story of your life turns out is up to you.

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Cloud to L1 2012/08/21 17:35:16 (edited)

if you read the link i gave you see what we went through if become jerks she wants us if we don't we get friend zoned so we either friend zoned or be a jerk and get relationships take a pick nice guy or a jerk who can give you challenge

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L1 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:38:13

I did, and absolutes are still both wrong and inaccurate. Humans have a wide spectrum of people and that's for both men and women.

What you are describing sounds like for people that are very young when both men and women are in the relationship to sow their wild oats, and both can act like jerks.

And a nice guy can give a great challenge too. Who says they can't?

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Cloud to L1 2012/08/21 17:47:56

it's true in most cases because it's in their nature instincts because if you do whatever you want never do what she asks and never give her gifts never compliments no nothing she loves that because she'll challenge you to change you into the guy she wants you to be.

But however if you do everything she asked of you she thinks you are too predictable too easy too nice and she thinks to herself he is fake and i can have him anytime i wanted to so boom she goes after guys who never give her anything well bam you get friend zoned while the jerk gets sex from her and you get nothing but friend zoned.

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L1 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:51:02

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That's why I put relationships take work, and from both people. You don't "do" everything she wants and vice-versa- you both compromise.

When people are young, they do stupid things. Men and women, but if both have learned and matured, by the end of the20s, neither group will just go for eye candy nor the 'thrill bad boys" either. They will want someone who can give them love, respect, and the commitment they seek.

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Cloud to L1 2012/08/21 17:54:53

i guess i should just give up and die alone as a virgin since no women waits till marriage and I'm just too ugly for women anyhow and I'm doing what god command me to do wait till marriage

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L1 to Cloud 2012/08/22 02:22:10

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Who says? Absolutes with the exception of death are illogical and inaccurate. Did you ever try looking in different places? Perhaps a faith service since you do want a woman who wishes to remain a virgin until married.

Now, if you really believe you are too ugly for any relationship. then you should stay away from relationships until you address your self esteem issues. You can't love anyone until you know how to love yourself.

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danila777 2012/08/21 16:57:51

I can say the same about men too. My sister dedicated 6 years of her life to a guy, and he cheated on her repeatedly, and when she confronted him, he told her she has no right to question him since he is the man of the house. First he distanced her from her family, than he had her diagnosed with depression, and than he did what he wanted with her. He avoided us, my husband said that something is wrong in their family but I thought that they just wanted space, when she moved out 2 days before Christmas I asked what was wrong and than she told me. The funny thing was that it was his sisters that ratted him out.

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Cloud to danila777 2012/08/21 17:00:09

but did she ever look at all of the signs way before marriage and did she want him to change this way so she can have challenge to change him into a good man

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danila777 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:04:56

Before he got married he took care of his brothers and sisters(raised them) and he did not have the time to play around. After he got married my sister took over the homework and cooking and he started working later and later or was coming home for dinner and went back to work. When she got married she said that she will never try to change her husband because he was responsible and hard working.

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Cloud to danila777 2012/08/21 17:08:08
danila777 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:12:24

she already is seeing a therapist and going to school, found a good paying job too. From my point of view is that people in America just give up too easily that's why there are a lot of divorces. There are exceptions too the rules.

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Cloud to danila777 2012/08/21 17:25:40

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Sorry for asking but did you saw and/or read the link i gave below :)?

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danila777 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:51:26

Ok, i just read it. My husband was one of the nice guys until his ex decided that he was not exciting enough. Me, I had just gotten over a bad relationship and we met through friends he was looking to buy a car, my brother had one but was not home and the rest is history. We have been married for 15 years I'm not saying it was easy, believe me I've thought about leaving him but that meant giving up, so I stuck with him. I look at things this way, for every single thing he does that drives me nuts I probably do the same thing if not worse.

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Cloud to danila777 2012/08/21 17:56:06

i guess i should just give up and die alone as a virgin since no women waits till marriage and I'm just too ugly for women anyhow and I'm doing what god command me to do wait till marriage

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danila777 to Cloud 2012/08/21 17:57:49

There are women like that out there, I was one of them, my sisters waited until marriage, I have friends that waited until marriage.

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Cloud to danila777 2012/08/21 17:12:03 (edited)

And one more thing if you ever wish to know what's happening to us nice guys take a look at the link i gave below to show what's happening to us

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The Elitist Libtard SodaJerk 2012/08/21 16:22:20 (edited)

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This post sounds like it is coming from a place of hurt. So I empathize. My marriage ended burning in flames. But that was only one experience of mine. Personally, I don't paint all relationships by one terrible break up. I think the rising percentage of divorce is due to the fact that many couples are more willing to have a wedding than they are at working on a marriage.

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Cloud to The Eli... 2012/08/21 16:26:36

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thanks and no i don't mean it to sound like it is coming from a place of hurt i was curios what the hell is going here in America of marriages and relationships

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The Eli... to Cloud 2012/08/21 16:31:22

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That's possibly my own $h!t. Because that's how I felt when my marriage exploded. I'll simply revert to my last sentence in my response "I think the rising percentage of divorce is due to the fact that many couples are more willing to have a wedding than they are at working on a marriage."

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Sister Jean 2012/08/21 15:36:07

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why blame the women men cheat more?

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Cloud to Sister ... 2012/08/21 15:40:01

Yes i know it's both way streets but it's mainly women because if you are nice boom you get cheated on,back stabbed,betrayed,divorce or dumped here in America and if you are a complete jerk she loves you and won't do what i describe and check out the link below i provided about what happening to us nice guys.

And like i said if this does not sound like me then this is not talking to you i am talking to those who i described she knows what am i exactly talking about

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Sister ... to Cloud 2012/08/21 15:52:30

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so don't judge all women on her ...talk to her

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