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Someone, please explain to me, how is it that homosexuals ruin the sanctity of marriage.

Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*) 2012/06/23 06:35:38
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"Gays ruin the sanctity of marriage"
If that is so, how is it, that my wonderful girlfriend and I have been together for 3 and a half years, living more than a thousand miles away from each other, can love each other so much even though the majority of our time talking is texting, messaging, and skyping. Only spent less than 2 weeks together in person, and are moving in together, planning our life, and waiting 5 years to get married. We grow so much with each other, loving each other more and more every single day.
But when it comes to straight people, you can cheat, beat your spouse, and only be married for 55 hours, then divorce them, and that's okay? If I was logical human being.. Oh right, I am, I'd say that's nuts.
So if someone could explain to me in a logical, non-religious explanation, I'd love to listen and take your thoughts into consideration.
If you give me 'oh, the bible said so, Jesus said it' bullshit, you're a moron.
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  • Herb 2012/07/23 00:33:53
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    Herb
    marriage is biblical homosexuality is sin and an abomination under the bible. man and woman from the beginning.
  • Flutter... Herb 2012/07/23 16:32:08
    Fluttershyfan
    It says gay marriage is wrong in the Bible?
    Wonderful, now tell me where it says that in the Constitution.
  • Herb Flutter... 2012/07/23 19:12:10 (edited)
    Herb
    you have equal rights under the declaration of independence. all mn are created equal. marrige has always been man and woman from the beginning in all cultures.
  • Flutter... Herb 2012/07/24 05:00:53
    Fluttershyfan
    Who says that can't change? Quoting the author of this question, why is it ok for straight marriages to last 55 hours and have it looked at as ok? It's not! And even if it is a "sin" to be gay, in WHAT way does it affect your personal life if you're not gay? Plus, we live in a country where Freedom of Choice is respected and practiced. Gay people need to have the ability to choose to get married.
    We have Freedom Of Religion, which means anyone can practice any religion they want. Or lack thereof. Please do not use your freedom to stifle someone else's.
  • Herb Flutter... 2012/07/24 05:28:15
  • Brosia 2012/07/23 00:08:17
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    Brosia
    While the straight marriages are looked at as almost disposable, gay marriages should be allowed across the board. If we took hetero marriages more seriously, with virtually no divorce or adultery, then there might be an argument made for the sanctity. But since straight people can be married for less than a day, divorce for no reason, or cheat on each other with impunity, gay people should not be restricted from marriage.

    But, I think the biggest fear for most religious people (Catholics and Evangelicals in particular) is that if you allow gay people to get married, they will have to allow gay people to be married in their churches. What they don't seem to understand, is that if the couple is not a part of that church they are not allowed to get married there. I am not Catholic, and they do not have to allow me to get married in their churches...and the same thing is true for a gay couple.

    Besides, why would you want to get married in a place that doesn't like you? Imagine that hostility during the ceremony? Talk about starting your marriage off on a bad foot.
  • Sinister Ken Doll™ 2012/07/04 19:39:59
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    Sinister Ken Doll™
    +1
    a marriage or a relationship in general is only as sacred as the people involved will make it; regardless of sexual orientation.
  • matt 2012/06/27 14:16:49
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    matt
    I think you have it wrong. Gays wanting to marry are taking the name "Marriage" , and twisting it into something else. If you wanted to just have the same rights and protections you wouldn't insist it be called marriage.What they want is to have everyone tell them that their life choices are OK with the rest of us, and twist They meaning of "Marriage" a union between a man and a woman to include themselves. If they really didn't care what other people thought they would just push for a civil union and not call it marriage.
  • Bunny (... matt 2012/06/27 18:36:45
    Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*)
    Gays are people too, they deserve the same rights. So why not it be okay to get married just like everyone else?
  • matt Bunny (... 2012/06/28 08:41:52
    matt
    find someone of the opposite sex and marry them then. No one is stopping you from getting married, You just want to change the definition of marriage. I just don't think you understand what people are trying to say. Their is truly no difference between myself and someone who chooses to be gay. Like addicts they just dont want to blame themselves for it "It;s not my fault"is what they say. They just want society to not think it is strange. Fight to have civil unions or call it gay marriage regardless stop trying to make everyone else think that it is normal. Even if you where born that way, it would be some sort of sexual retardation and we might feel sorry for someone retarded but we don't have to say that it is normal.
  • Bunny (... matt 2012/06/28 16:02:59
    Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*)
    You're missing the point. We want to marry each other, not the opposite sex. If it was legal, we'd just call it marriage. Who said we want to change the definition? It's the same to you as it is me; to be bonded with that one special person you love forever. Being an addict is a choice, by the way. If you'd see how many homosexuals there really are, then yes, it is normal. You'd be surprised who's really gay. There's bunches of them everywhere, you just can't see it. There's more gay people than there are mentally challenged people. In my family, we have 4 gay people, and one mentally challenged person. And that's only one side. It's more normal than you think.
  • matt Bunny (... 2012/06/28 19:04:53 (edited)
    matt
    the definition is a man and a woman. two woman getting married would change that definition. With that many gay people in your family I would say you have more then one mentally challenged person. have you ever thought that being gay is some sort of addiction or mental retardation? Can we say Insanity?
  • Bunny (... matt 2012/06/28 23:04:15
    Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*)
    Well that's you're own thought, never proven or thought of by anyone else. So, you must be the screwed up one. I'm done with fighting with ignorant morons as yourself, I'm bored.
  • matt Bunny (... 2012/07/01 13:09:44
    matt
    I'm sorry Honey. I'm what you call normal.lol.
  • Bunny (... matt 2012/07/01 15:39:29
    Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*)
    +1
    There's no such thing as 'normal', everyone is equal, and no one is normal.
  • matt Bunny (... 2012/07/18 03:31:35
    matt
    whatever.
  • Bob DiN 2012/06/27 07:41:06
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    Bob DiN
    Perversion is never a good thing.
  • Alvin 2012/06/27 01:35:58
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    Alvin
    +1
    I fail to understand why some folks are so threatened by gays desire to receive the protection under the law that si so taken for granted by heterosexual couples. If marriage is so sanctified, God given, blessed and desirable, why do divorce, adultery, out of marriage sexual activity (See the recent reports on Mr Gingrich and Mr Hart et.al. both stalwart protectors of the American Marriage and way of life), married coaches and religious people having non-consensual sex with minors keep popping their ugly heads? Is this someone's definition of maintaining the "Sanctity of Marriage", that will be sullied by having gay people married?
  • gizzibag 2012/06/26 22:47:25
    Here is where you're wrong..
    gizzibag
    +1
    please check out the divorce rate. and then tell me what sanctity
  • Bunny (... gizzibag 2012/06/26 23:33:36
    Bunny ( Amber's *Bunny*)
    The divorce rate for um, lets see, STRAIGHT PEOPLE.
  • JonDeniro 2012/06/25 17:12:05
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    JonDeniro
    +1
    Many, if not most people believe that their personal sensibilities are the natural order of things and therefore should be forced upon everyone else.

    Some years back, interracial marriages were the target of choice.
  • Andrew 2012/06/25 06:26:20
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    Andrew
    +1
    http://christocentric.com/mai... read this and you might understand that gay marriage does have consequences
  • ZeldaFan13 Andrew 2012/07/03 04:47:27
    ZeldaFan13
    +2
    All things said in that link were nothing but bigoted and ignorant statements... -_-
  • polkastria Andrew 2012/07/05 04:17:36
    polkastria
    So I'm reading you link and it occurs to me that most of those arguments could also be made for divorce as well.

    Now I was born in 1968 so I remember all too well being one of the first kids with divorced parent in my neighborhood. But by the time I was in High School, it was a normal part of life.
    I also remember the hellfire and brimstone response to test tube babies.. and look at how common that is now.

    So why don't you just brace yourself and realize that this is just another thing you folks couldn't accept but had to in time. The world will not end and everyone will adapt and it will all be okay.
  • Scream Andrew 2012/07/08 03:37:10
    Scream
    Usually when people back up their opinions with websites, it's a good idea to use unbiased sources. Using a site with Christocentric in the url for a debate about same-sex marriage is nowhere near unbiased.
  • Wilde~MoonChild ™ 2012/06/24 13:52:04
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    Wilde~MoonChild ™
    +3
    The ONLY people who can ruin the sanctity of marriage are the people IN SAID MARRIAGE!!! Not the gay guys down the street or the lesbians at the supermarket!
    Did gay marriage ruin the sanctity of Trump, Gingrich, Rush and Edwards marriages?? NO THEY did!
  • rustex782 Wilde~M... 2012/06/24 17:40:38
  • polkastria 2012/06/24 08:28:17
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    +3
    My husband and I have been together for 17 years next month and we've been married for 13 of them... we got married by a judge in a courthouse with no religion involved at all. But we're still married in all the legal ways. We get the protections and the tax breaks and all of it.

    We have two wonderful friends that were just handfasted at a Pagan ceremony of marriage... they are also just as married as we are even if they haven't been together as long.. they also get all the legal protections despite being married in another religion.

    So how is it that everyone says churches and the Bible say homosexual marriage is wrong? Clearly not ALL religions or churches have an issue with it and even if they did.. there's always the courthouse for a marriage.

    This issue should not be an issue at all. It is one religious group trying to force their own religious belief down everyone else's throat and it shouldn't hold any water with any thinking person at all.
  • Willie 2012/06/24 07:58:09
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    Willie
    +5
    Bunny, bigots just like to use religion to disguise their immorality. They've been doing it for centuries now. Don't let it bother you. Gay marriage rights are coming. They're coming to every state, and they'll be federally recognized. It's like a freight train coming down the tracks. The bigots are frightened, but they'll be okay. It will come, and no hellfire or brimstone will rain down, and civilization won't come apart at the seams, and the bigots will move on to another target. That's what they do.
  • Odinsown 2012/06/24 07:31:29
    Here is where you're wrong..
    Odinsown
    +6
    The simple fact is there only two arguments that substantiate this claim, neither of which is logical. The first is "the bible says it is bad", the second is the very popular "it is gross" this one has many many variants and they all come down to an individual being grossed out by gay sex.

    Good luck with your girlfriend and as and ordained minister, ULC, if you need someone to officiate I work for a six pack of good beer.
  • reaper 2012/06/24 06:10:40
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    reaper
    +3
    because the crazies want to claim everything for themselves.
  • Frank 2012/06/24 05:01:32
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    Frank
    +3
    Homosexuals do not ruin the sanctity of marriage. There are many different kind of marriages. Civil, common- law, and those within a religious institution. Those who are married within a church or a religious institution have laws that define their marriage that do not apply to a civil or common law marriage. That sanctity is already protected by the religious laws and the common law or civil marriages are not really recognized by those institutions. So gay marriage is just another civil type of marriage that would not be recognized by those institutions. So I can't see how a civil gay marriage has anything to do with any other marriages.
  • Airhead 2012/06/24 04:49:56
    I see eye-to-eye with you, you're right!
    Airhead
    +1
    The sanctity of marriage has been ruined for a very long time. I wouldn't blame homosexuals. Don't you think the promiscuous gays wouldn't care about getting married?
  • Psyblade 2012/06/24 04:31:00
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    Psyblade
  • BloodlessVeins 2012/06/24 03:24:32
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    BloodlessVeins
    +2
    I want to marry a girl in the future, so hopefully they will pass gay marriage. CONSIDERING THAT MARRIAGE STARTED BEFORE CHRISTANITY AROSE!
  • Fievel 2012/06/24 03:23:33
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    Fievel
    +3
    Ahm... What!?
    We don't ruin marriage.
    People who aren't sincere ruin marriage.
  • heartsonfire 2012/06/24 01:41:16 (edited)
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    heartsonfire
    +2
    They don't.
  • Sam DePecan 2012/06/24 01:27:02
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    Sam DePecan
    Marriage has already been defined. BTW, hi-jacking words from the Dictionary is just a temporary band-aid. The psychological problem lies in the homosexuals brains themselves. There is really not a damned thing that anyone can do about it; and that includes calling a DOOR an AUTOMOBILE . . . Or the SUN a TREE . . . Or a MOSQUITO a PAPER CLIP. It's even easier to say Oh that's phobic; as opposed to admitting that it makes sense.
  • Odinsown Sam DeP... 2012/06/24 07:33:00
  • America... Odinsown 2012/06/25 22:10:30
    American☆Atheist
    @sam, since he blocked me: How does that apply to gay marriage?

    I agree with your profile BTW.

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