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So Male Christians, how can you love a "male Jesus" and then hate other people for being gay?

bob 2012/05/23 17:18:53
Because Jesus was only Half Male, Half Space Alien
Well at least I'm not a Conservative Homophobic Closet Homosexual
My Love for Jesus is not sexual.... Although ....
Jesus is not Male, have you not heard of GOD SEX. not to be confused with good sex
I love a "male Jesus" and then hate other people for being gay because....
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  • frozenKmadness 2012/05/23 18:30:59
    My Love for Jesus is not sexual.... Although ....
    frozenKmadness
    +10
    Now that's a dumb question, Bob.
    People's love for Jesus is not sexual. It's like asking how could a man love his best friend, his uncle, his father or his son and not be gay.

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  • Candace... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/30 18:54:39
    Candace Washington
    There's no way you read all of that for understanding in that short amount of time. Yes, it does say it's ok to DISCIPLINE children, not beat them for no reason, mentally, verbally and psychologically abuse them, molest them and leave bruises, like abusers do. Show me where it says it's ok to have slaves in the new testament. show me where it prosecutes rape victims and not the rapists in the new testament. Follow every word in the Bible? Where did I say follow every word in the Bible? I said only follow the NEW testament.
  • ☽✪☾Godd... Candace... 2012/05/30 19:01:21
    ☽✪☾Goddess~Worshipper☥
    Here you go. Read, and weep. All of this is in the bible, I have looked it up myself. And I am a fast reader.

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
    What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep resp...






















    Here you go. Read, and weep. All of this is in the bible, I have looked it up myself. And I am a fast reader.

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
    What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
    (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
    Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
    Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
    Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
    Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
    Exodus 21:3-4 Says that if a male slave is given a wife by his master (regardless of how long they are wed, how much they love each other or if they have kids) he can not leave servanthood with his wife or children. The woman and children are merely property of the master and their personal happiness or sanctity of family doesn’t matter.
    Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done.
    Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled.
    Genesis 38:16-24 Tells a very interesting story of a man named Judah whom lived with his widowed daughter in law. His daughter in law was grieving and wearing the veils of mourning which Judah (a rather stupid man) mistook for the clothing of a prostitute. He ended up impregnating his daughter in law and she left the city. On a later date Judah sees the young woman again and demanded she be burned for being a prostitute (I like how only the woman is punished when THEY BOTH engaged in the sexual act). It wasn’t until Judah recognized the woman as his daughter in law and she was with his child, that he decided not to kill her. Basically, Judah can commit incest, use a prostitute (in his mistaken perception), and impregnate a MUCH younger woman, yet he thinks she is the one deserving of death
    Genesis 19:8 Tells of a man named Lot who offers his daughters to a crowd of would be angel rapers. Later, Lot impregnates his own daughters after God kills his wife for simply looking back at the remains of her city
    Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched. It is quite curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created. What is so just about vilifying what you created?
    Leviticus 18:19 Goes onto say that even LOOKING at a menstruating woman is wrong.
    Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then “scourge” her. Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping. I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed
    Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. Of course, the virgin women are kept for raping. If you read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses). Hence these women who were captured were repeatedly raped and impregnated and they weren’t even allowed a marital status in which to protect them.
    Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God “delivers into your hands,” but keep the women for raping.
    Deuteronomy 21:11-14 If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and “go in unto her.”
    Deuteronomy 22:5 Women that wear men’s clothing are an “abomination unto the Lord.”
    Deuteronomy 22:13-22 Women, be sure to keep the tokens of your virginity. Otherwise the men of your city may stone you to death. This does not apply to men though, of course. What is interesting to note here is the actual wording, it says : “that if a man hateth his wife he may say she did not have the tokens of her virginity”. Since there is no way a woman can truly prove she had a hymen upon marriage the word rests on the husband and she can be disposed of simply when he tires of her.
    Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is one of the most cruel and sexist passages of the Torah. It says that women who are raped and fail to “cry out loud” in a populated area are most likely enjoying the attack should be killed.
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  • Candace... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/06/27 15:49:44
    Candace Washington
    I'll explain this to you when i get back
  • ☽✪☾Godd... Candace... 2012/06/28 18:25:05
    ☽✪☾Goddess~Worshipper☥
    I do not need explanations.. I know what it says in there, and I know the context meaning. I read, not only those few versus, but paragraphs at a time.
  • Candace... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/06/30 20:31:36
    Candace Washington
    I also know what it says, and i also know the context. Explanations are needed which is why i said i'll explain it to you in the first place. This isn't to insult you, but seeing as how you thought we were still under the ten commandments...
  • ☽✪☾Godd... Candace... 2012/06/30 21:44:59
    ☽✪☾Goddess~Worshipper☥
    Ok, 10 commandments are in the ot right? So you're, generally, saying Christians do not follow the ot right? Then tell me why everyone always points to Leviticus, in the ot, when talking about gay people to show them 'how wrong it is.' Doesn't make sense. Either you follow the whole bible, or none of it. No picking and choosing like fake Christians. I do not need an explanation. You can tell me your opinion, but do not explain anything. I know perfectly clear what the bible says. Insult or not, I need no explanations.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:21:11
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    actually there is 300 Commandments but the first ten were given to moses

    Actually see if you Read the book the Papyrus of Ani which is the Egyptian book of life on chapter 150 you will find all of the Ten commandments Except for the no idol and no worship other Gods

    Moses was Egyptian for 40 years he knew this and he based his Ten commandments that he wrote as well as the other 300 commandments he wrote later all he did was plagurize the Egyptian people
  • ☽✪☾Godd... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/05/24 03:26:23
    ☽✪☾Goddess~Worshipper☥
    Interesting. I learn something every day lol.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:27:32
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    the story of Moses and the Exodus is basically a fictional story with a Modern Twist.

    the Story of Moses in the Exodus incident is Virtually identical to story of Seth and sethmoses

    its an Egyptian myth Written thousands of years before Moses and the Exodus happened in the bible

    Osiris God of the Egyptian Gods was killed by his brother Seth
    Isis Resurrects Osiris Seth kills him again so Osiris is Born Reincarned into Isis as his own son Horus <- Virgin birth Story

    Horus Grows up and defeats Seth and frees the people of Egypt from Seths iron Rule Exiles him from Egypt and imprisons him on a mountain

    Sethmoses Seths Son Vows Revenge
    He Gathers an army of Tribes of people and Fights Horus and the Egyptians the Coup is put down they are Exiled forever for this
    Chased out of Egypt Sethmoses Parts the red sea and leads his army out of Egypt
    Sethmoses goes to the moutain where his father is imprisoned gets Word of where to go
    the Promised land to go and build a huge army and Wait for the moment to strike and take back Egypt and Free Seth from his prison

    to accomplish this Seth Gives Sethmoses 2 magical Tablets to be kept in a Gold Box

    As he comes off the mountain he finds his army worshipping Egyptian Gods
    upset he kills some of them as a warning to others
    then takes them into the desert for fourty years to get the Egyptian culture of of his people Called the Hyksos
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:27:45
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    the children of Israel were in fact known as the Hyksos. Flavius Josephus identified the Hyksos as the patriarchal Jews, equating their appearance in Egypt with the story of Joseph in Genesis and the expulsion of the Hyksos, with the biblical story of the Exodus. Manetho's account, as recorded by Josephus, of the appearance of the Hyksos in Egypt described it as an armed invasion by foreign barbarians who met little resistance and who subdued the country by military force. He recorded that the Hyksos burnt Egyptian cities, destroyed temples and led women and children into slavery. Josephus identifies the Israelite Exodus with the first exodus mentioned by Manetho, when some 480,000 Hyksos “shepherd kings” (also referred to as just “shepherds”, as “kings” and as “captive shepherds” in his discussion of Manetho) left Egypt for Jerusalem in the 16th century BC. There is also some evidence that points to the takeover of Egypt by the Hyksos as a gradual process referred to by some scholars as the “creeping conquest”. This means that through migration, they slowly infiltrated the Egyptian government and took control of the country. This was during a period of time when Egypt was weakened by plagues and famine
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:27:56
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    The ancient Egyptians were good at keeping records of major events that occurred in their country. Had there been ten deadly plagues and a large group of people leave the country? There would have been a record of this. Then of course there is a record of the Egyptians taking control of their country again. Pharaoh and his chariots did chase the Hyksos (Jews), to Sinai and the Hyksos did go to
    Jerusalem. This would mean that the Jews were not slaves but a foreign military that was exiled from Egypt. And there is scriptural evidence to support this theory.

    Numbers 33:1(New King James Version) These are the journeys of the children of Israel, who went out of the land of Egypt by their armies under the hand of Moses and Aaron.

    Numbers 33:1 (King James Version)These are the journeys of the children of Israel, which went forth out of the land of Egypt with their armies under the hand of Moses and Aaron.

    This shows the Jews leaving Egypt with their armies. I have never heard of slaves having armies. Who in their right mind would train and arm the people that they are keeping captive? We will see in the next few chapters, the children of Israel had a highly trained Army. This would indicate that the Jews were not slaves.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:28:09
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17

    4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant,


    10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant,

    What Former Slaves have Servants??? Servant = SLAVE
    the original hebrew version was Slave not Servant

    just as 6 thou shall not murder orginally was thou shall not murder another hebrew
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ☽✪☾Godd... 2012/05/24 03:44:54
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    stick with me i teach you all kinds of stuff im a Wealth of knowledge
  • Burning Bright Embers 2012/05/23 18:06:49
    None of the above
    Burning Bright Embers
    +2
    So Bob, do you love your father? Is he male?
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/05/23 18:05:48
    None of the above
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    There are more kinds of love than sexual love. Say you're a male, and you have a brother. Do you love him in a sexual way?
  • Cedric 2012/05/23 18:05:16
    None of the above
    Cedric
    Hahahaha , you know there two kinds of love : love love (how we understand it)
    and love meaning loving your brother and sister and your family , I don't think people are incest for loving their family right? Well the same things goes for Jesus , he is family.
  • Mungu 2012/05/23 17:43:58
    None of the above
    Mungu
    +1
    Hey what is that picture about? That is wild man. Could those pics have inspired Alice the Goon?

    alice
  • BrianD3 2012/05/23 17:43:28
    None of the above
    BrianD3
    +1
    I dont intend to let God have buttsex with me......
  • bob h. 2012/05/23 17:38:55
    All of the above
    bob h.
    Dunno; I'll simply look it up.
  • D'eath 2012/05/23 17:30:23
    None of the above
    D'eath
    +3
    I loved my brother, my father, a very good male friend, I love Jesus.

    Am I queer? Not a chance in hell.

    Love does not have anything to do with sex, although they can go together where a man and a woman are concerned.

    The huge majority of homosexuals as the name implies have sex with other so called males.
  • classic D'eath 2012/05/23 21:01:26
    classic
    Homosexual behavior does not always mean sex is involved......
  • D'eath classic 2012/05/24 10:52:38
    D'eath
    +1
    In what way then, IS the relationship homosexual?

    I have already acceded to the fact that not all homosexuals have sex with each other.

    Are you telling the world that all men who love each other are homosexuals?
  • classic D'eath 2012/05/24 14:48:20
    classic
    You are trying to put words in that were not there... My point was that it seems that homosexuality is more prevelant in nature than the homophobes want to admit.....
  • D'eath classic 2012/05/24 18:24:02
    D'eath
    +1
    You know what classic;

    I could argue with you, but you are unable to follow a simple line of enquiry, which is a shame, because I would like to talk to you about this question further.

    So I'll leave it like that and you can carry on thinking you are right :)
  • Guru Casper BN-ZERO 2012/05/23 17:28:26
    None of the above
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +1
    Jesus never spoke about homosexuality,he spoke about self-sacrificial love and in his life and death demonstrated it!
    jsus footwashing
  • bob Guru Ca... 2012/05/23 17:33:05
    bob
    +1
    Ah I see you went with European Jesus not Historical Jewish Jesus
  • Guru Ca... bob 2012/05/23 17:36:38
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    MY point is showing his selfsacrificial love ,yes Jesus was oriental jew
    jewish jesus jewish jesus
  • Max Power bob 2012/05/23 17:42:08
    Max Power
    When all else fails, bring up racism.
  • Mungu Max Power 2012/05/23 18:03:55
    Mungu
    Yeah, that's silly, when all else fails me I depend on my Ruger Old Black hawk .44 mag revolver.
    gun
  • nverumind bob 2012/05/23 18:52:08
    nverumind
    God gave us those restrictions in the Old Test.
    Jesus never spoke of homosexuality!
  • Ninjaman Guru Ca... 2012/05/23 18:15:26
    Ninjaman
    +1
    The bible speaks of homosexuality being wrong:
    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination(Leviticus 20:13 KJV)
  • Guru Ca... Ninjaman 2012/05/23 19:18:02
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    I'm familiar with the bible,thanks anyway
    BTW I'M Unitarian,so don't particularly take bible literally or SERIOUSLY:)
  • Brad # 2486547 2012/05/23 17:26:35
    None of the above
    Brad # 2486547
    +1
    Pretty dumb question. The love for Jesus is like the love of a brother or father. It's nothing sexual. Only in your deranged mind.
  • Mr. Rock "n" Roll 2012/05/23 17:25:59
    None of the above
    Mr. Rock "n" Roll
    +2
    Love and sexual desire are two very different things. I love my mother, my sister and my brother but I don’t want to do them as it were!
  • mwg0735 2012/05/23 17:25:20
  • Revolution 2012 2012/05/23 17:23:53
    None of the above
    Revolution 2012
    +3
    Funny, but wow.....I feel insulted and I'm not even Christian.....or gay.
  • D.C.Verdone 2012/05/23 17:21:11
    Because Jesus was only Half Male, Half Space Alien
    D.C.Verdone
    +1
    HAHA thats so bad XD but funny XD

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