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Since the BDSM lifestyle is about power and control of others, it is hypocritical of some feminists to be in this lifestyle?

mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/07/03 19:28:14
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  • Wretha S 2012/07/03 20:45:08 (edited)
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    Wretha S
    +6
    I can't speak for feminists, but many years ago I did play a bit in BDSM, in the play that I did, the "bottom" or slave actually had the ultimate say in what happens and how far things go. We used safe words, my preference was to use colors, green meant everything is fine, yellow slow down and red meant stop, the "top" or master should ask from time to time what color you are, watch you carefully to gauge where you are, and respect your limits and needs. It was all consensual.

    BTW, for me it wasn't about sex. it was all about the endorphins. :)

    Haven't done any of that in MANY years now...

    Wretha

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  • carrotcat 2012/07/05 06:20:10
    Other
    carrotcat
    +2
    What is BDSM?
  • mk, Sma... carrotcat 2012/07/05 14:15:55
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    Bondage and discipline play (B & D or B/D)
    Dominance and submission (D & S or D/s) (including "master and slave" role-playing scenarios and ongoing relationship structures)
    Sadism and masochism (S & M or S/M)
  • luvguins 2012/07/05 01:06:42
    No
    luvguins
    +2
    Most feminists would be Dommes in BDSM because of their higher self esteem.
  • Call me Mark willya? 2012/07/04 21:39:22
    Other
    Call me Mark willya?
    +1
    It depends on what kind of feminist. Most that I've met are domineering anyway, so if they became the submissive in the relationship I'd say THAT's hypocritical, On the contrary, if they were a true feminist that understands what equality means (being given the same opportunities and benefits not just changing the boot from one foot to the other.) Then She might be a little submissive and that would be her choice.
  • Swampdog 2012/07/04 15:41:13
    Other
    Swampdog
    +2
    Don't care.
  • Mike 2012/07/04 12:42:25
    No
    Mike
    +2
    Lesbian BDSM is about a feminist seeking control of another.
  • oros 2012/07/04 11:53:42
    No
    oros
    +1
    From my limited understanding of it seems all about trust, whatever floats your boat.
  • Scream 2012/07/04 06:59:34
    No
    Scream
    +1
    It's fine as long as it's consensual.
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/07/04 05:49:54
    Other
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +1
    To be completely honest, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by BDSM
  • mk, Sma... ~Hopele... 2012/07/04 06:31:33
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    Bondage, Disipline, Sado machosist
  • A Lionheart 2012/07/04 02:29:03
    No
    A Lionheart
    +1
    Any one who knows knows that in BDSM it is the sub that has the ultimate power, through the use of code words and such. Besides this is an apples and oranges discussion. Feminism is about the societal equality of women not about bedroom games.
  • mk, Sma... A Lionh... 2012/07/04 02:53:36
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +1
    From what I've read BDSM is a lifestyle, not a game.
  • A Lionh... mk, Sma... 2012/07/04 03:12:06
    A Lionheart
    +1
    Could be, but that is semantics. For some it's playing for others it's living. Whatever floats your boat.
  • AndyBoy mk, Sma... 2012/07/18 13:01:46
    AndyBoy
    +1
    Agreed. It's definitely a lifestyle choice between two consenting adults.
  • JCD aka... mk, Sma... 2012/08/13 11:31:25
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Either, or.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/07/04 01:02:41
    Other
    Tennessee3501
    +2
    BDSM is a Communist plot to take advantage of the moral bankruptcy of America! If they had had more good ideas like this, the Soviet Union would still be thriving! LOL !
  • mk, Sma... Tenness... 2012/07/04 01:10:14
  • umapathy Krishnamurthy 2012/07/04 01:01:11
    Yes
    umapathy Krishnamurthy
  • geneticmistake 2012/07/04 00:18:56
    No
    geneticmistake
    +2
    As others have indicated, BDSM is "controlled control". Though one person (in a typical 2 party situation) is dominant the submissive has just as much say as to how far things go. All participants are acting voluntarily and getting satisfaction from the actions.
  • Haightbear 2012/07/03 23:51:58
    No
    Haightbear
    +1
    why, is tieing up men not control enough
  • SlaveWaterNymph 2012/07/03 23:48:28
    Other
    SlaveWaterNymph
    +2
    Hm well the bottom always has the say so, like for example, being punished i say stop when i have too much and He stops. I mean we give that power away by letting the Dom/me control us, but it is our own consent to do that. But with this question, you got me kinda scratching my head. lol....
  • Lady Aiyanna 2012/07/03 22:25:22
    Other
    Lady Aiyanna
    +2
    I know of a woman who abuses her authority wherein she passes snide remarks hurts and torments the male in every way till she gets him into a submissive position to ask for favours. She started with asking him to do errands for her then slowly demanding that she stays in his place little later began abusing his mother and grandmother and the child in the family to take control of the house till I intervened and finally asked them to get her to leave the premises and sent her a stinking email that kept her in her place with a threat to her job amongst other things.
    BDSM needs five people to play the game and have various coded languages which are colour based usually, but can contain animals, plants and other various forms of representation based on the agreement. They usually love leather and No is not an answer that they take as its not part of the coded language.
    No reply means carry on doing what you are doing as we have submitted to your request and accept and acknowledge your needs. Its part of submission.
    It is considered dehumanising and is punishable under law if detected and found out.
  • mk, Sma... Lady Ai... 2012/07/03 22:52:46
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    "It is considered dehumanising and is punishable under law if detected and found out."

    Very interesting. Many of those replying to this poll say BDSM is ok. But you say it is illegal?
  • Lady Ai... mk, Sma... 2012/07/03 23:28:31
    Lady Aiyanna
    +1
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    If the coded words and terms are not respected. It takes place if the person practicing it makes the complaint of being violated.
  • mk, Sma... Lady Ai... 2012/07/04 01:17:14
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    Thanks for the link
    In the past, many activities and fantasies related to BDSM were generally attributed to sadism or masochism and were regarded by psychiatrists as an illness. Following the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) sadomasochism is categorized a "Disorder of sexual preference" (F65.5) and described as follows: "A preference for sexual activity which involves the infliction of pain or humiliation, or bondage. If the subject prefers to be the recipient of such stimulation this is called masochism; if the provider, sadism. Often an individual obtains sexual excitement from both sadistic and masochistic activities."[86]

    So it is not illegal but a sexual disorder?
  • Lady Ai... mk, Sma... 2012/07/04 02:38:38
    Lady Aiyanna
    +1
    More of a kind of gratification to satisfy a sexual fetish. Its not because they cannot do without it, but because they want it that way.
  • mk, Sma... Lady Ai... 2012/07/04 02:54:07
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    So is it legal?
  • Lady Ai... mk, Sma... 2012/07/04 03:37:41 (edited)
    Lady Aiyanna
    +1
    No, if detected, it is illegal!!! It is with or without penetration. Would One woman - married/unmarried or otherwise find it okay to sleep with a married/unmarried/otherwise man????
    Would this be considered legal in the eyes of the law. It is consensual.
    Five Partners in a sexual game - I know I threw my husband out for posing with 5 half naked women in Australia.
  • mk, Sma... Lady Ai... 2012/07/04 03:49:50
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    So your husband went to jail for BDSM with 5 others?
  • Lady Ai... mk, Sma... 2012/07/04 04:17:22
    Lady Aiyanna
    +1
    No, I just stopped associating with him until he had his fill in the area....
  • JCD aka... Lady Ai... 2012/08/13 11:35:39
    JCD aka "biz"
    +2
    You did the right thing. Abusing his mother and grandmother and the child was criminal.
  • Lady Ai... JCD aka... 2012/08/18 20:28:39 (edited)
    Lady Aiyanna
    +2
    That was one of the reasons why I disassociated myself from him and he went on the rampage and abused everyone including the cops. Told them to deal with him their way but leave me out of it....
  • ehrhornp 2012/07/03 21:50:25
    No
    ehrhornp
    +2
    Big difference between one's business life and one's sexual life.
  • mk, Sma... ehrhornp 2012/07/03 21:57:34
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    But then you have those that mix business with pleasure. D
  • Edensasp 2012/07/03 21:37:41
    No
    Edensasp
    +2
    Role play is a voluntary participatory act. Sexism isnt a lifestyle, its social retardation and ignorance.
  • BobbyOdd 2012/07/03 21:37:14
    Other
    BobbyOdd
    +1
    hmmm...maybe not if they are the ones in control? i mean...yuk
  • ☂cinderella.dress.in.yellow☂ 2012/07/03 21:06:25
    No
    ☂cinderella.dress.in.yellow☂
    +1
    BDSM style is about pleasure besides both genders do it.
  • ETpro 2012/07/03 20:51:50
    No
    ETpro
    +1
    Why should it be as long as both participants are willing parties to the power exchange?
  • Wretha S 2012/07/03 20:45:08 (edited)
    Other
    Wretha S
    +6
    I can't speak for feminists, but many years ago I did play a bit in BDSM, in the play that I did, the "bottom" or slave actually had the ultimate say in what happens and how far things go. We used safe words, my preference was to use colors, green meant everything is fine, yellow slow down and red meant stop, the "top" or master should ask from time to time what color you are, watch you carefully to gauge where you are, and respect your limits and needs. It was all consensual.

    BTW, for me it wasn't about sex. it was all about the endorphins. :)

    Haven't done any of that in MANY years now...

    Wretha
  • 1wicked... Wretha S 2012/07/03 20:50:16
    1wickedwitch
    +3
    Wow,,I like that

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