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Should The Red Cross Take Blood From Gay Men?

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The Red Cross is being asked to explain why it is now easier for people who have been pierced, tattooed or had acupuncture to become blood donors, but not gay men.

The organization is allowing such people to donate blood six months after their procedure -- down from 12 months -- under new donation guidelines, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported. But the guidelines for gay men donating blood stipulate they cannot be donors within one year of male-to-male intercourse.

We weren’t sure if the U.S. rules were the same, so we checked it out. The Red Cross Web site says “You should not give blood if you have AIDS or have ever had a positive HIV test, or if you have done something that puts you at risk for becoming infected with HIV. You are at risk for getting infected if you:

Have ever used needles to take drugs, steroids, or anything not prescribed by your doctor

Are a male who has had sexual contact with another male, even once, since 1977

Have ever taken money, drugs or other payment for sex since 1977

Have had sexual contact in the past 12 months with anyone described above

Received clotting factor concentrates for a bleeding disorder such as hemophilia

Were born in, or lived in, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Niger, or Nigeria, since 1977.

Since 1977, received a blood transfusion or medical treatment with a blood product in any of these countries, or

Had sex with anyone who, since 1977, was born in or lived in any of these countries."

Tasmanian gay and lesbian rights spokesman Rodney Croome says this is discriminatory, according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"The fact the Red Cross is willing to review its current donor guidelines for people who have piercings and acupuncture and tattoos, but not review guidelines when it comes to gay blood donation, really does suggest the Red Cross is, at best, engaged in some fairly arbitrary decision-making, or at worst, is just downright homophobic," he said.

Read More: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/09/2922...

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  • Conservative in California 2010/06/09 15:40:57
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    Conservative in California
    +21
    No system is perfect. The vast majority of AIDS patients in America are gay men. Why would anyone (besides a liberal) want to put millions of Americans at ANY risk of contracting a deadly disease if it can be avoided. Sorry, but satisfying the whims of the gay lobby in America is not a good enough reason to put all Americans at risk of death.

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  • Doc Holiday 2013/02/07 14:10:40
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    Doc Holiday
    we put crap into the food chain and look what happens. now you would like to put crap into the blood supply. how stupid are you people?
  • Britt 2011/01/17 00:19:36
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    Britt
    They test the blood anyway so what's it matter if they're gay or straight? This is like dadt cause I know plenty of gay people who donate blood and/or plasma. Get over it.
  • Eva 2010/07/29 20:33:38
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    Eva
    Wow, guys, that's pretty freaking ridiculous.
  • elashom... Eva 2010/12/22 17:44:06
    elashombhutchinson
    Eva i totally agree with you the gay men of the world don't all have hiv/ aids and we are discriminated against on many levels and sometimes the people of the lgbt community are even discriminated against for getting jobs and i am sorry but i am a 31 yr old gay male and i have had sex with men yes and i get tested every six months whether i have sex or not to make sure my hiv/ aids status is still the same and it is NEGATIVE. I am sorry but you can get hiv aids from sharing a needle or pretty much from anywhere it is not a gay disease what so ever and people need to realize that there are gay men out there that do have it yes but what about the children that have heterosexual parents and they come out having hiv/ aids so it is not only the gay community that is able to contract the hiv/ aids virus so people also need to realize that you can get hiv aids from your heterosexual parents in birth not all people of the gay community are hiv positive at all
  • KSJR362 - Not what you think 2010/07/26 00:15:19
    I think ...
    KSJR362 - Not what you think
    +1
    Adhering to a concept started in the mid 80s when testing and technologies are available to quickly screen is ridiculous. When you consider that the latest studies are showing that HIV in poverty stricken areas is on the increase and this population is receiving minimal education, might as well ask people for their tax returns or pay stubs.

    This myth that AIDS is a gay disease needs to die. ANYONE, ANYONE could actively be carrying HIV.

    Or maybe make it easy for everyone. Since no one can ever be sure, just don't take any blood.
  • rizki 2010/07/24 09:16:35
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    rizki
    +2
    and save human population..cz human can destroyed if nothing action from goverment..
  • Aly 2010/07/23 23:56:16
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    Aly
    haha my sis said they spread diseases? :P
  • kay 2010/07/17 03:16:10
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    kay
    +1
    just because there gay dont mean they have diseases. everyone elses blood is bein testin let em give blood
  • lissy 2010/07/11 20:41:25
    I think ...
    lissy
    I do think that if everything else has been under scrutiny that they wouldn't have left the ban without good reason.

    If the main demographic of HIV/AIDs sufferers are gay males it makes sense that they would put that guideline into place, even if it doesn't seem very palatable. I don't know if it is different in the US, but in Britain the blood is tested before it goes anywhere for such diseases anyway, so the practice is that with that testing in place anyone who has sex with anyone is under the same guidelines.

    On the face of it, it would seem discriminatory, and I can see why the gay community would be offended, but at the same time if it was homophobia (again, going on British law) that's a criminal offense to discriminate so if it was for anything but medical reasons then the Red Cross would be prosecuted... ?
  • DrackolusO'Dell 2010/07/10 21:08:58
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    DrackolusO'Dell
    More black people have aids than gay people. So, can black people no longer give blood? Good luck getting that across. If we are taking a "logical" approach, than that's what we would do.
    Idiots playing with logic is worse than children playing with guns.
  • clovismbangto 2010/07/07 12:12:28
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    clovismbangto
    +2
    I think it is not a discrimination it is just a means of protecting the seculation of blood from one person to another
  • LelaJohnson 2010/07/05 20:05:58
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    LelaJohnson
    Yes, they should take blood from gays, too. All they have to do is test them just like everyone else before they give blood.
  • Lil' Al 2010/06/30 19:50:40 (edited)
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    Lil' Al
    +1
    Excuse you? (the comment above). Straight men get AIDS and HIV you ignorant fool. This is clearly discrimination and homophobia at it's worse. Heteros have the same chance as getting HIV as gay men, period. And the hetero community is no less promicuous as the gay community; gay men more promiscuous as hetero men? I don't think so, that's a stereotype. I have not had sex since the beginning of this year and I always use protection. I once knew a hetero male who straight up told me, "I want to get every girl I can pregnant." He was being serious. And if that is not an example of hetero prosmiscuality then you dont know what promsicuality is, period.
  • kobidob... Lil' Al 2010/07/01 15:41:52
    kobidobidog
    aids, lupus, and a plethora of other things drugs are used for have been helped by a type of doctor called upper cervical specific as a group. Montel Williams was alleviated form the debilitating symptoms of MS.by an atlas orthoganol upper cervica specific care doctor. learn about them on www.upcspine.com knee chest technique is good too. read evidence scientific studies too 10 one down on the list 48% improvement. take my word for it, and have more tests done and this number will rise. have humans wait to long to be checked and a human will get a ironic condition they did not need to have. This thing about aids, and blood and semen is a big fat lie. it all started to dehumanize the gay, and now they are trying to dehumanize the zoosexuals too when will this dehumanizing
    stop!
  • Jack Lil' Al 2010/07/02 22:23:25
    Jack
    Your a dam_ liar!!! Queers are controlled by Satan like no other perverts. Most sodomites have more sex partners than you can count. You are a liar and THE LEFT WING BELIEVES THE LIES BUT AM ON TO YOU PEOPLE. You perverts love bathroom sex, bath houses, strangers, child molesting, many even eat feces like no other. You people are sick, mentally ill, demon possessed, and a danger to society and we are tired of it!!
  • LelaJoh... Jack 2010/07/05 20:14:27
    LelaJohnson
    Wow...you sound like the devil yourself, Jack. So...there is a problem with oral sex and where we want to have sex in our own house? You're rediculous. I love oral sex and I have sex all around my house in the bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, livingroom, diningroom, and especially the stairs :) :). And, no. I don't have sex with strangers. I don't molest children, and I don't eat my feces, nor am I mentally ill or demon posessed. You obviously are psycho.
  • Poison Ivy 2010/06/29 23:52:18
    I think ...
    Poison Ivy
    +1
    if they check them for diseases (HIV, AIDS, STDS) and if they come up positive then no, but if they don't then yes.
  • kobidob... Poison Ivy 2010/07/01 15:47:50
    kobidobidog
    You are believing a well contrived lie about aids and many things drugs are being used for ,Drugs are drugs no matter which way you slice them. recreational or pharmaceutical they are all drugs. www.upcspine.com, all go and be checked right now,and if you can go to sherman collage, and learn AO, and the Duff Method ,that is one good combination.Other technique names on upcspine.
  • Poison Ivy kobidob... 2010/07/12 20:45:58
    Poison Ivy
    I don't really care, it is just so stupid. It's great everyone has there voice, but they bicker to damn much about there choice. I think you should take the time to look at both sides before chooseing.
  • johnnyg 2010/06/29 05:02:24
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    johnnyg
    It has to do with risk. The Red Cross needs to be able to give clean blood. I would like to give blood but I will not because when I was young I used drugs and I will not risk someones health because of my stupidity.
  • kobidob... johnnyg 2010/08/26 19:55:28
  • Layla 2010/06/28 14:07:32
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    Layla
    +1
    just because they are gay, doesn't mean they have some type of weird bloood!!!
  • Jack Layla 2010/07/02 22:26:00
    Jack
    More lies!!
  • kobidob... Layla 2010/08/26 19:57:37
    kobidobidog
    You are right. the biblical lies are just the tip of the ice burg of a lot more lies. All intended to dehumanize the gay, and zoosexuals as well.
  • Lilly 2010/06/27 03:17:13
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    Lilly
  • Jack Lilly 2010/07/02 22:26:28
    Jack
    A lot of queers want to spread aids!
  • Lilly Jack 2010/07/25 21:07:05
    Lilly
    why would anyone "want" to spread aids?
  • Jack Lilly 2010/07/25 21:15:50
    Jack
    Because the hate themselves and us normal people. Look at this site for starters
    http://www.606studios.com/ben...
  • kobidob... Lilly 2010/08/26 19:59:35
    kobidobidog
    that aids thing is a well contrived lie.
  • char Lilly 2011/09/02 13:34:56
    char
    I agree with you. The blood supply has to be carefully watched. 5 people in China just aids from body parts that wern't tested. Test all blood donations
  • star 2010/06/24 07:23:24
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    star
    wat is the diffrents betwwen gay blood n striaght blood??? it should nt matter at all
  • tomem 2010/06/23 20:43:40
    This has nothing to do with discrimination. It's about protecting blood supply.
    tomem
    As long as the blood is well screened before being given to anyone, but I'd be real hesitant to take blood from a gay man or women.
  • MrSexyPants 2010/06/22 05:08:28
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    MrSexyPants
    it's totally discriminating. just because a guy is gay doesn't mean that he has AIDS. That's a really, really bad stereotype. So messed up....
  • Jack MrSexyP... 2010/07/02 22:27:36
    Jack
    Why do you queers want so desperately to give blood??????????? Talk about a Red Flag!!!
  • MrSexyP... Jack 2011/06/27 20:52:28
    MrSexyPants
    I personally don't want to, not the biggest fan of needles... but gays should be able to if they want to. There's plenty of straight people wit diseases but its ok to take blood from them, right? cuz they're less able to contract AIDS right? ok, sure...
  • RegenaCarterPelham 2010/06/21 10:36:10
    Yes, gays are being discriminated against.
    RegenaCarterPelham
    +2
    I know straight men who have a one or two time sexual 'encounter' with another man in their life since 1977, just out of curiosity!! So, since they are straight they can donate blood? Go figure!!
  • pogamoo... RegenaC... 2010/06/21 16:28:11
    pogamoonga man
    They are not straight, by definition, if they had sex with men. what you think irt doesn't count! Did you know science has proven that gay sex changes the mind. it has also proven Aids and Hiv hide in the blood for years. There still is no cure, anyone stupid enough to flirt with it; is not smart enough to "fake" me into endangering my life so i don't offend them. NO gays, No drug addicts, no sick,, infected peolpe because the LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD. I do not care if you do not believe it the medical community and the Bible, have proven it. Non-monogomus sex is dangerous, many STD's and many Internal infrections from the "strange" proteins in your body. Do you know that a man's sperm , a protein, can be detected in a woman for years after sex? This is science, and multiple protiens, lead to multiple infections. On the other hand if a couple has sex for many years their protiens actually convert to like protiens, eliminating the chance for infections and complications. If you think that isn't true, then look it up and find out, because this is not about discrimination, it's about germs, and "internal sanitation". Women, or men, who have sex , and expecaially oral when they swallow, are at huge risk for these kinds of infections that fuel cancer, and inflammation, and bacteria. th...
    They are not straight, by definition, if they had sex with men. what you think irt doesn't count! Did you know science has proven that gay sex changes the mind. it has also proven Aids and Hiv hide in the blood for years. There still is no cure, anyone stupid enough to flirt with it; is not smart enough to "fake" me into endangering my life so i don't offend them. NO gays, No drug addicts, no sick,, infected peolpe because the LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD. I do not care if you do not believe it the medical community and the Bible, have proven it. Non-monogomus sex is dangerous, many STD's and many Internal infrections from the "strange" proteins in your body. Do you know that a man's sperm , a protein, can be detected in a woman for years after sex? This is science, and multiple protiens, lead to multiple infections. On the other hand if a couple has sex for many years their protiens actually convert to like protiens, eliminating the chance for infections and complications. If you think that isn't true, then look it up and find out, because this is not about discrimination, it's about germs, and "internal sanitation". Women, or men, who have sex , and expecaially oral when they swallow, are at huge risk for these kinds of infections that fuel cancer, and inflammation, and bacteria. these are all deadly to you insides and digestive systems and mostly never assocaited with the true cause becasue the doctor's don't ask and the person doesn't say. Double blind, controlled, scientific research has shown, the only safe sex is the long procees of the two becoming "one flesh." The Bible is so accurate that it said it this way and , wow, wea re made of protein in every cell! this did cause a stir, and to the Scientists, a wonder, . No gay sex, extrememly dangerous, no infected people, and no un-tested people; should be allowed to donate any blood! If you get a tainted transfusion you have no defense; you are dead, so if you need to call it "discrimination" I am fine with that untruth becasue it is less deadly than the one that says we should n't judge them , it's unfair. Let them decide to protect others, their "sin" is not harmless just look at Africa, or other countries where the entire generation has been desimated. the lack of abstience in those societies, they didn't discrimiate, has destroyed an entire generation, and we have orphans by the millions, and if you do any volunteer charity work , or follow any of that, then you know trhat this is the truth and reality. Let them cry discrimination; otherwise you will end up crying. The mental health in the Gay community, is almost as poor as the physical health. I will not eat, stand near by, or touch a leper, becasue it is contagious. Leper colonies exist due to this fact; not some terrible discrimintation. Do any of you "gay advoacates under stand taht? How about quarantine? Never heard of that either? So call it what you want; it doesn't change the truth, I will not change and touch the leper to show them I am not discriminating, if I do I will become a leper, too. Funny thing is that when Jesus met a leper, history records, he did touch them and told them to go wash. then they were clearned and healed and moved back into the cities! there are many who deny his miracles; but there were non when three cultures combined to crucify Him. No one of the three discputed His miracles and the followers who said they saw them all went from nothing and denial of Him; to dying for Him. so you can dismiss them, but in the first century theere were over 100 books about jesus of Nazreth. Not one claimed His miracles were false or never took place. So you non-science people, and you non-histroy people, can believe the modern myths about Him or go b ack and review history. it truely is His story and in case you missed it he promised to return when Iseral was reborn as a Nation, surrounded by muslima nd other enemies, who jusgt happen to be the exact peole against isreal. Things melting in a fervent heat like the New Testament we know now as a nuclear war; and the fact that the enitre earth will wee it at once; CNN and other satillite serives. yes only the completey seared consiuos and unbeliever thingks these earthquakes speeding up, and all these other conditions, one banking system based on numbers, the tempole being rebuilt , by the jews, in Jerusalem. it is all there and he is coming so you better look away from you sin, and up, and towards the near future. If you are left behind you will go into the tribulation which will make WWII look tiny and the bioble says if it weren't stopped there would be no flesh left on the earth. sound like a nuclear holocast yet? it will be as amn turns on man and the anti-Christ is revealed. Be sober, look around, and figure out the times. Maranatha!
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  • Jadebra... pogamoo... 2010/06/21 20:41:55
    Jadebrain_Prime
    +1
    The Bible said Jesus, the son of God, was a sinless being. The Bible also said he dishonored his mother and father, stole private property, hated his "neighbor," (the Philistines), and lied, as well as breaking the more ambiguous rules not in the Ten Commandments, such as speaking the word "Fool" (Jesus himself claimed that those who spoke said word, which had a much worse meaning back then, would go to hell), and being in the presence of an unclean corpse. Furthermore, the 'physical embodiment of peace and love' also committed aggravated assault.

    That is all I have to say. For my source of information, search for "Sins of the Savior."
  • pogamoo... Jadebra... 2010/07/05 19:18:31
    pogamoonga man
    +1
    You men man made myths. If Jesus had disrespected his parents he
    'd have been stoned on the spot. If He didn't raise from the dead; why couldn't the 100 Roman guards placed at the tomb produce His body? why were the band of unknowns, who all denied Him, all willing to die for Him later? why didn't the Jews, who had to disprove him, ever able to do it or ever produce His body? Why were there more than 100 books, besides the Bible's gospels. written about HIM? Why did nothing, except His calim to be God, get charged against Him at His illegal trial? YOu have believed lies Jadebra and you are trying to spead them. He is the Truth , the Lefe, and The way and so fales words caannot change History; whic h is HIS STORY!! What year is it? Oh, yeah, 2010 IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD! HE is returning soon and you need to accept HIm for your eternal life, be born again, and WHEN YOU ARE ALIVE SPIRITUALLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT WHICH MAKE NO SENSE TO YOU AT ALL IN YOUR NATRUAL MIND.
  • Jadebra... pogamoo... 2010/07/11 00:19:46 (edited)
    Jadebrain_Prime
    I'll be honest with you; I WANT there to be a god. Yes, I am an atheist, and yes, that means I don't believe in any god. But I think it would be absolutely wonderful if there was a god, a benevolent and watchful being that helps and protects us with powers unimaginable. I would want nothing more than to be sure that there is life after death, any kind of existence at all. But I don't believe things just because I think they are good. No, I have seen the contradictions in the Bible for myself, beyond those merely pointing to the sinful nature of Jesus. And I have other reasons for disbelieving other religions. Trust me, I would absolutely love to believe, but I cannot bring myself to believe something that I think is incorrect.

    By the way, my username is Jadebrain_Prime. I hate how they put the '...' there, especially in that unfortunate location on my username.
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