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Should teachers have the right to spank students?

Cal August 05, 2008 02:38:27

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  • +4 raves Kristi August 05, 2008 02:42:40
    Kristi

    No

    I believe that nobody but the parents should have a right to spank children, a teacher is their to teach not for corporal punishment, if they can't handle the child then they can send them to the principal and let him/her handle the situation. I know that if a teacher laid a hand on my kids then she would wish to god that she didn't. I also think that parents are to blame for how their children behave and a child should not be so out of control as to deserve whoopins at school. I got swats when I was a child while in school and I just think that is wrong.
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    spankedcp November 06, 2009 07:53:37
    spankedcp

    Yes

    Yes and always bare bottom/nude in front of class with hand, ruler, paddle, cane, strap until butt is bright red.
  • Cal spankedcp November 06, 2009 21:45:27
    Cal
    What? Hahahaha!! That's a bit extreme don't you think... : )
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    spankedcp Cal November 08, 2009 08:43:17
    spankedcp
    Not if you put into context. I am not suggesting use all of the above implemets in one spanking. Instead use a selection depending on what the punishment is for and what age the student is when being punished. For example; The teacher may elect using only one item on the list, or start with using hand and then select one implement. (However a few times during my teens, a couple of the female teachers decided to start with the hand, then use the strap and follow with the cane..... any we could certainly count on a follow up spanking by our parents when we got home for getting in trouble at school.)

    The school I attended (long time ago now, back when spanking was routine and never questioned) used the above methods on students, including myself! I was frequently on the receiving end of such punishments and it never did any harm to me or my friends (other than sore bottom and embarrassment - we got over it within 24 hours, it was considered normal part of growing up). I see nothing wrong with such methods.

    I am a big supporter of such methods, out in the open/publicy where it can be seen by everyone.

    *I believe however, that there is a risk of abuse of spanking/corporal punishment or a risk of using it as a means to sexual abuse/other abuse, if spanking is carried out priva...



    Not if you put into context. I am not suggesting use all of the above implemets in one spanking. Instead use a selection depending on what the punishment is for and what age the student is when being punished. For example; The teacher may elect using only one item on the list, or start with using hand and then select one implement. (However a few times during my teens, a couple of the female teachers decided to start with the hand, then use the strap and follow with the cane..... any we could certainly count on a follow up spanking by our parents when we got home for getting in trouble at school.)

    The school I attended (long time ago now, back when spanking was routine and never questioned) used the above methods on students, including myself! I was frequently on the receiving end of such punishments and it never did any harm to me or my friends (other than sore bottom and embarrassment - we got over it within 24 hours, it was considered normal part of growing up). I see nothing wrong with such methods.

    I am a big supporter of such methods, out in the open/publicy where it can be seen by everyone.

    *I believe however, that there is a risk of abuse of spanking/corporal punishment or a risk of using it as a means to sexual abuse/other abuse, if spanking is carried out privately behind closed doors where no-one is watching.*

    I also believe that spanking/corporal punishment is not just about the strokes on the bottom, or having a sore bottom. A lecture, explanation of wrong doing and embarrassment are important and necessary inclusion with any spanking/corporal punishment, as well as a bright red sore bottom.

    I hope this clarifies things up a litte.
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  • Cal spankedcp November 08, 2009 15:40:06
    Cal
    Well said, Spankedcp (interesting name in relationship with this conversation). Yes, I agree that children/students must learn that there are consequences for bad behavior in society. However teachers are public servants (like police officers) and should NOT be allowed to hit any student. Its a parents' job to discipline their child/ren. Teachers are there to help students learn about history, math, science, art, music and help them develop career goals. Spanking is not a class subject, neither is discipline.
  • spankedcp Cal November 15, 2009 03:56:10
    spankedcp
    Ah, but discipline is very much a teachers' role in the classroom when students misbehave. Parents are not there at the time to discipline their children. A student who misbehaves in class, disrupts the well behaved students from learning. Teachers are there to not only teach students, but to deal with any disruptions to the class.

    Many times I have witnessed students misbehave in class and refuse to follow teachers directions for one single reason they admit to; The teacher is by law (in my country) not allowed to raise their voice at the student, not allowed to use corporal punishment, not allowed to "physically or verbally" do anything to the student who refuses to co-operate. Not even the school principle is allowed these things. The only option is to call parents from home or work to remove the student from causing disruption to the class and other students. Therefore, the student admits to misbehavour without any fear of consequences or discipline. The classic response "What are you going to do? I know my rights! You're not allowed to touch me or raise your voice, etc.."

    The other day on the news a parent was arrested for doing just that! Their child refused to do anything and the parent was forced to grab their arm and drag them out of the school premises. The paren...





    Ah, but discipline is very much a teachers' role in the classroom when students misbehave. Parents are not there at the time to discipline their children. A student who misbehaves in class, disrupts the well behaved students from learning. Teachers are there to not only teach students, but to deal with any disruptions to the class.

    Many times I have witnessed students misbehave in class and refuse to follow teachers directions for one single reason they admit to; The teacher is by law (in my country) not allowed to raise their voice at the student, not allowed to use corporal punishment, not allowed to "physically or verbally" do anything to the student who refuses to co-operate. Not even the school principle is allowed these things. The only option is to call parents from home or work to remove the student from causing disruption to the class and other students. Therefore, the student admits to misbehavour without any fear of consequences or discipline. The classic response "What are you going to do? I know my rights! You're not allowed to touch me or raise your voice, etc.."

    The other day on the news a parent was arrested for doing just that! Their child refused to do anything and the parent was forced to grab their arm and drag them out of the school premises. The parent is now facing child abuse and assault charges.

    Also, police officers are law enforcement people. They need to deal with unruly and criminal behaviour of both adults and children.

    Now using corporal punishment is something that one does not want to have to use. However, sometimes it is necessary.

    My question to you is; In the above situation where the student misbehaves in class, what would be your solution (if not corporal punishment)?
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    Illinois August 12, 2009 20:28:24
    Illinois

    No

    Nope!
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    omega August 12, 2009 05:39:46
    omega

    No

    no because what happens when a kid hits back then they get expelled or suspended for being hit by someone who had no buisness touhing them in the first place wtf that aint right
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    Cal omega August 12, 2009 12:05:55
    Cal
    That's an interesting and fresh point of view. And you're right. The situation you just painted is more of a set up than actually educating a child. Cheers, Omega!
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    S›››ookie August 11, 2009 15:18:23
    S›››ookie

    No

    Although a certain amount of discipline is well within the rights of the teacher, discipline at that level should be left to the parent. No one should be touching your children in any manner. Ideally, if the child is misbehaving, the school should contact the parent(s) and allow them to deal with the disciplinary part as they see fit (within reason, of course).
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    Cal S›››ookie August 12, 2009 03:00:54
    Cal
    I strongly agree with your well articulated position, Sookie. Children are in school to be educated not spanked. That's a parent's job. Thanks for the response!
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    S›››ookie Cal August 12, 2009 03:03:18
    S›››ookie
    You're very welcome. :)
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    Jon June 03, 2009 05:36:50
    Jon

    No

    No. Spanking and discipline are the responsibilty and obligation of parents, and some times principles. Never teachers. But I guess it would be ok, if parents could spank the teachers.
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    S›››ookie Jon August 11, 2009 15:14:18
    S›››ookie
    Only if the teacher was attractive. :)
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    Icedragon1969 August 07, 2008 01:00:26
    Icedragon1969

    Yes

    They should also have access to more means of maintaining discipline when "talking" and "counseling" don't do the trick.
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    Deb. I believe. August 06, 2008 13:12:21
    Deb.  I believe.

    I think...

    No.
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    HairlessKat the Gnostic August 06, 2008 11:49:08
    HairlessKat the Gnostic

    No

    My kids are really well behaved and I believe this is in part due to the fact that we do not believe hitting solves anything,,, so if a teacher raised his or her hand to our children , the teacher would need to worry for their own safety quite frankly because my husband or I would most likely either sue them or beat them in return. It is not alright by me for an adult to strike a child because it teaches nothing except that somone bigger can hurt you to enforce their will.
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    Riki Hairles... August 11, 2009 15:12:53
    Riki
    Thank you!
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    sd August 05, 2008 09:48:48
    sd

    No

    Thats wrong.
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    cRightwingNut cRight babies... August 05, 2008 06:55:15
    cRightwingNut cRight babies beware!!

    I think...

    I'm OLD enough to remember SPATS....each teacher had, thanks to the wood shop teacher....a solid MAPLE swatting paddle. Those damn things HURT...but I also never forgot!
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    Kristi August 05, 2008 02:42:40
    Kristi

    No

    I believe that nobody but the parents should have a right to spank children, a teacher is their to teach not for corporal punishment, if they can't handle the child then they can send them to the principal and let him/her handle the situation. I know that if a teacher laid a hand on my kids then she would wish to god that she didn't. I also think that parents are to blame for how their children behave and a child should not be so out of control as to deserve whoopins at school. I got swats when I was a child while in school and I just think that is wrong.
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