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Should Student Be Fined $600 for Cursing?

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In the old days, a teacher might have slapped your hand with a ruler for cursing at school. Now, they just slap you with a fine.

In October, a Mesquite, Texas, high school student was fined $340 after a teacher reported her to campus police for shouting foul language at another student, CBS reported.

But it gets even worse. The student, who denies she said the words loud enough for the class to hear, never showed up for court, adding penalties that brought the fine to more than $600.

That's one expensive four-letter word.

“Unfortunately, people say things that they might later regret or say things out of emotion and, just like if you said it in a public place and someone complained, you could be issued a ticket for it," Mesquite Independent School District spokesperson Ian Halperin told CBS. "There are laws against it."

Halperin says student fines aren’t unusual, but can be avoided in some cases.

"You know, for first offenders the fine sometimes can be waived," he said. "Parents do need to understand that these are tickets issued by the police and they do need to follow up with them."

But $600 is a lot of money -- and guess who's going to wind up footing the bill? Not little foul-mouthed Junior, but Mom and Dad.

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  • SAILOR 2011/02/03 17:33:03
    No, that's excessive
    SAILOR
    +14
    It is freedom of speech. It is just a word. Are police fined when they curse at suspects?

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  • ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠ 2011/02/05 04:18:26
    No, that's excessive
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    Swearing doesn't do any physical immediate damage to public or private property, nor does it pose a threat to public safety. Unless swearing can be legally classed as a type of noise pollution, I doubt this whole swearing fine will ever go large scale.
  • Ca(RAWR)ie 2011/02/05 04:08:21
    No, that's excessive
    Ca(RAWR)ie
    What happened to the detentions and suspensios? This is becoming WAY too extensive... Really, Even my teachers swear but only hell, crap, and Ass. Its still stupid...
  • ashe93 2011/02/05 03:57:15
    No, that's excessive
    ashe93
    Just because them old teachers were slapped as kids when they swore, doesn't mean they can report and fine kids over $200 for swearing too. They'll do anything in the "legal" way to get people in trouble for things that they didn't get away with when they were kids too.
  • Maggie D 2011/02/05 03:55:33
    Yes, that seems fair
    Maggie D
    Maybe the girl is lucky. Lessons learned might just help her function better in the grown up world.
    First, part of that $600 fine was for not showing up for court. So that is a lesson learned she might want to avoid in the future as the fine could be alot more next time. The cursing - while unfortunately cursing has become more and more prevalent in almost all settings, doing it can still prevent her or others who use foul language in inapproprate situations from promotions and other considerations.
    Once using foul language on a steady basis, it will be tough to quit. A guy like George Carlin made a good living with that kind of language in his routines, but I doubt it will fly when working for the bank,t he beauty shop, or some government agency. (Yet, I've heard it, in those places, too.
  • Lexiaata Maggie D 2011/02/05 05:11:10
    Lexiaata
    only part of the 600 hundred was added for that but skipping court yes thats not allowed also these are not young children biut young adults enough ti make their own decisions especially about cussing and ther foul behavior i do not agree that this punishment is fair
  • Nudenz 2011/02/05 03:53:51
    No, that's excessive
    Nudenz
    I believe that most swearing is the result of a very limited vocabulary. However, that said,
    what harm does it really do? Fines for swearing are just another step towards a totatalitarian society.
  • JuneGagnon Nudenz 2011/02/05 05:58:01
    JuneGagnon
    The harm done is the "acceptance" of general "immorality" AND "disrepect"!
  • notechno JuneGagnon 2011/02/05 15:17:46
    notechno
    Such a truism. This brat would probably not be so out of control with their mouth if the parents had taken to "train up a child the way he should go" Thankfully, my parents would have given me and my siblings a good slap across the mouth had we ever dared to be so disrespectful. Only happened a few times because we knew they Would Do It. Parents always got compliments about "6 well-behaved kids" and all of us are productive, law abiding citizens
  • SuperSn... notechno 2011/02/06 00:06:16
  • NoName notechno 2011/03/13 22:02:40
    NoName
    Hypocrite.
  • bgf97 2011/02/05 03:24:27
  • stephen 2011/02/05 02:51:46
  • Arclight 2011/02/05 02:50:54
    No, that's excessive
    Arclight
    Everything in a child's life, the control of the child, on and on, should not be about money. We must rip ourselves away from this empty mindset.
  • steve 2011/02/05 02:24:38
    No, that's excessive
    steve
    They should penalize students some for using fowl language ,
    but this was way too much.
  • snail 2011/02/05 01:56:50
    No, that's excessive
    snail
    Cursing should be allowed, but perhaps discouraged for social reasons.
  • JuneGagnon snail 2011/02/05 05:59:04
    JuneGagnon
    "social" reasons - -what about "ethical, moral" reasons??
  • snail JuneGagnon 2011/02/05 09:17:21
  • Nancy~PWCM~JLA~POTL 2011/02/05 01:51:01
    No, that's excessive
    Nancy~PWCM~JLA~POTL
    now I am not all that old yet but when I went to school we had dicipline and teachers were allowed to enforce. I shamefully admit being paddled and I was embarrassed but not scarred. I did something that I was caught at and was called on the carpet. Why can't we get back to that and why is everything a lawsuit today? Do you think kids don't know this? Kids are not in charge although they think are at many times. Somebody has to be in charge and for sure it is not them. I am not overly stricked parent but this nonsense! , Nonsense. Enough! Let parents be parents. I do understand all those that are not good role models but Tom Sawyer managed and became a really colorful gain.Parents are not perfect and so far we just do the best we can.
  • Arty 2011/02/05 01:37:02
  • gibb 2011/02/05 01:19:20 (edited)
    No, that's excessive
    gibb
    +4
    Haven't they heard of the word "detention"????
  • mana kai 2011/02/05 01:10:00
    No, that's excessive
    mana kai
    +1
    Why not suspend them from school instead? Because then the school will lose attendance reimbursement money from the state. A new low for 'public service',extorting money from it's citizens. Get used to excessive fines - towns and cities are broke and their employees excessive pensions are not being funded
  • L K 2011/02/05 01:05:25
    No, that's excessive
    L K
    +5
    If you want to give detention, extra homework, an educational punishment would be fine, but when you take money out of the mouths of students working for college funds, parents in a recession trying to pay their mortgage, then I say no way. As a teacher myself, I discovered this year a troubled boy who when I took the time to find out why he had an attitude, I discovered that his father lost his job and the whole family was living in their car.There is always a reason for certain behavior. How does this principal know what is going on in the lives of his students? Maybe they have a reason for their behavior. There are a million appropriate consequences that don't involve money. BAD idea. You lose your home cause your parents can't pay the money for a slip of the tongue? Sounds like a law suit to me. Somebody should fine the principal for being a jerk.
  • Marissa 2011/02/05 00:58:30
    No, that's excessive
    Marissa
    +6
    Hmmmm... I think that the " bad " words are just words. Maybe just a detention or something less intense should be given as a punishment. Definitely NOT a fine.
  • cirquedusolame 2011/02/05 00:45:34
  • Dogfather 2011/02/05 00:45:14
  • worzi 2011/02/05 00:36:02
    No, that's excessive
    worzi
    +2
    stifle free expression and you will be educating killers
  • JuneGagnon worzi 2011/02/05 06:02:53
    JuneGagnon
    Did you never discover, how many ways you can, freely, express yourself, without cursing?
  • heywood jablowme 2011/02/04 23:59:09
  • TeraP 2011/02/04 23:39:44
    No, that's excessive
    TeraP
    +2
    Hell, too the No.
  • namikazelil 2011/02/04 23:29:45
  • emma 2011/02/04 23:13:03
    No, that's excessive
    emma
    +1
    no that is stupid
  • Tori 2011/02/04 22:37:52
    No, that's excessive
    Tori
    +1
    that's sooo stupid...
  • tony 2011/02/04 22:37:18
    Yes, that seems fair
    tony
    If she disrespects authority now by not showing for court it'll only get worse. This should teach her a lesson. In court she had the oppurtunity to fight it but chose give them the finger.
  • heywood... tony 2011/02/05 00:04:15
    heywood jablowme
    +1
    I can't believe she was given a ticket from the police. It is rude and inappropriate to curse in public situations but it is NOT illegal! I think the school has a right to punish the kid but the police have no reason to write a ticket or the court for imposing a fine. Polite speech will never need defending.
    reason write ticket court imposing fine polite speech defending bill of rights
  • L K heywood... 2011/02/05 01:16:18
    L K
    +1
    Public schools can't legally charge students a fine for their behavior. They can suspend a student but they can't charge them money. At least in my state. I can't even ask parents to send in crayons and paper with the economy like it is. The principal needs to have a reality check. Nobody likes foul language, but excluding kids from football games, dances, other school functions might make more of an impression than charging huge amount of funds.
  • worzi tony 2011/02/05 00:36:50
  • L K worzi 2011/02/05 01:24:03
    L K
    +1
    You can embrace freedom without denying authority. True freedom is having an open mind and looking at all points of view. Then you make an educated decision and follow your convictions. I have spent my life as a rebel in the educational system. i did it through creativity, motivation, and inspiration. Free spirits are admired and listened to when they make sense.
  • worzi tony 2011/02/05 00:58:22
    worzi
    +2
    it is a slippery slope just like a seatbelt fine , if you don't pay it you face criminal charges and a stiff fine, possibly jail, miss that court date and you are a felon in contempt of court, and possible prison, all because of a seat belt, now do we want our words used against us like our cars are? so a cop can detain you at any time because he didn't like what you said????
  • Allyson 2011/02/04 22:33:52
    No, that's excessive
    Allyson
    +1
    Thats stupid!!!!
  • LEVI 2011/02/04 22:32:29
    No, that's excessive
    LEVI
    no,that's a lot, no matter what you do or come up with, if there is families out there that still
    allow their children to drank,smoke and have " SLEEP-OVERS"( male and female mix), how is a fine going to help...per se, meaning the rich(sometimes not so rich, too) will continue to let
    their children do practically anything...are you sure this isn't just a "scared-tactic"...for less
    fortunate students.

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