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Should Screaming Kids Be Banned From Restaurants?

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Did you ever go to a restaurant for a nice meal, only to have it be ruined by screaming kids? Well, one North Carolina eatery is trying to do something about that.

The Olde Salty restaurant in Carolina Beach has posted signs reading: "Screaming children will not be tolerated," North Carolina's WECT reports.

The owner, Brenda Armes, says she's tired of hearing customers complain about screaming kids -- and she says the signs have worked.

"It has been a good thing for us," Armes said. "It has brought us in more customers than it has ever kept away."

But some families are insulted by the signs.

"I've never seen a restaurant say, don't bring your screaming kids in here," Ashley Heflin, a mom of two, told WECT. "You can't help it if your kids scream."

We feel sorry for the parents who'd like to dine out but have no sitter for their kids. But as a childless person, we know how nice it is to enjoy a meal in peace.

Should Screaming Kids Be Banned From Restaurants?

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  • Vic~*PHAET*~ 2010/09/08 01:32:29 (edited)
    None of the above
    Vic~*PHAET*~
    +17
    As a toddler, I once had a temper tantrum in a local store, my mother set down her basket on the spot, picked me up, marched me out of the store and to her car. She drove me home, dropped me off with my maternal gran, and then went back out to finish her shopping by herself. I was so shocked that I stopped crying the minute she began taking me out of the store, begging her that I would be good and not to take me home. My mother refused. I never bawled like that in public with her again because I knew what would happen.

    So the way I see it is like this, if your child is behaving, take them to a restaurant, let them come out with you on your errand runs, and to family dinners out and about.

    But if that child starts acting bratty and unruly, screaming, whining, and crying, it should be a parent's responsibility to take that child out of the restaurant until they have calmed down. A parent should do this out of respect for the other patrons in the restaurant, a restaurant should not have to take these measures. A parent should be teaching their children that this is negative behavior and will not be tolerated, not restaurant staff.

    And if the child does not calm down before orders have been taken and placed, I honestly believe that the child should be taken home to learn that the be...

    As a toddler, I once had a temper tantrum in a local store, my mother set down her basket on the spot, picked me up, marched me out of the store and to her car. She drove me home, dropped me off with my maternal gran, and then went back out to finish her shopping by herself. I was so shocked that I stopped crying the minute she began taking me out of the store, begging her that I would be good and not to take me home. My mother refused. I never bawled like that in public with her again because I knew what would happen.

    So the way I see it is like this, if your child is behaving, take them to a restaurant, let them come out with you on your errand runs, and to family dinners out and about.

    But if that child starts acting bratty and unruly, screaming, whining, and crying, it should be a parent's responsibility to take that child out of the restaurant until they have calmed down. A parent should do this out of respect for the other patrons in the restaurant, a restaurant should not have to take these measures. A parent should be teaching their children that this is negative behavior and will not be tolerated, not restaurant staff.

    And if the child does not calm down before orders have been taken and placed, I honestly believe that the child should be taken home to learn that the behavior will not be tolerated in public, just the way I was. A parent shouldn't be sitting there making empty threats like I've seen them do in the restaurant I work at or when I'm out on a quiet date with my boyfriend. I find the fact that their children are disrupting the entire restaurant with noise or running rampant and trashing multiple tables to be rude and disrespectful not only to that restaurant's staff but to everyone around them.

    Edits: Clarification purposes and an Oxford comma
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  • Jace Mindue 2012/10/24 15:08:00 (edited)
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Jace Mindue
    seriously how can you sit there eat good meal you paid for in peace and enjoy it with a little CRAPPER screaming waaa waaa waaaa waaaa its annoying espically in tthe supermarket leave the little Craps at home when you go to the store we dont want your drama people
  • skavinjher80 2011/08/31 16:02:08
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    skavinjher80
    Take them to kid themed restaurants until they are old enough to behave and yes, I have 3 now grown boys.
  • Jdawg 2011/07/22 03:48:50
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Jdawg
    yes little rug rats don't have a place in public places.
  • Sayer Stewart 2011/07/14 00:41:37 (edited)
    None of the above
    Sayer Stewart
    I think it should say "Do not scream inside the restaurant" because saying "No screaming children" is discriminatory to children.
  • BabyBear 2011/07/12 10:26:24
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    BabyBear
    Yes, kick out the parents who can't discipline and/or manage their child. And, while we're at it, kick out loud cellphone talkers, iPod users drumming and singing to every song, rude people that do not understand that no one else cares that their soda is "too bubbly" (I've heard that one) and yell their complaints. The list goes on, basically restaurants should be able to kick out people that are ruining everyone else's meal. Especially at nicer places.
  • Fred M Pohl 2011/04/07 01:31:17
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Fred M Pohl
    I feel there is no excuse for parents letting screaming brats carry on ungodly and msibehave I think more eating establishments Should adopt a "ZERO Tolerance" policy Why Should other patrons have to put up with it ? For who and For What? I want to enjoy a nice meal in peace The parents need to get on the stick and adress the issue right then and there and If some of you stupid parents out there if you had anny kind of common sense you would be dangerous I used to get my hide tanned for acting up IT was a wakeup call
    If any of these kids ever go inot the service Guaranteed You Would have screaming Drill Instuctors Getting in your face in boot camp One thing I learned Your Mean sprited Drill Instructors pick up where Your parenst left off
    and whn they say "Jump!" Your NExt Question is "How HIgh?"
  • Tanner 2010/10/28 16:45:03
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Tanner
    People want to go to have a nice peaceful quiet meal. They don't want to listen to an annoying, screaming, crying, bratty child! In my opinion it is common courtesy to take your child out when are acting up!
  • Fred M ... Tanner 2011/04/07 01:33:06
    Fred M Pohl
    +2
    I agree with You I'm sick and tired of it too
  • POLICE IN HOT PURSUIT 2010/09/10 06:43:42 (edited)
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    POLICE IN HOT PURSUIT
    +1
    "WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE"
    What Conditions Allow a Restaurant to Refuse Service?
    There a number of legitimate reasons for a restaurant to refuse service, some of which include:

    ■Patrons who are unreasonably rowdy or causing trouble
    ■Patrons that may overfill capacity if let in
    ■Patrons who come in just before closing time or when the kitchen is closed
    ■Patrons accompanied by large groups of non-customers looking to sit in
    ■Patrons lacking adequate hygiene (e.g. excess dirt, extreme body odor, etc.)
    In most cases, refusal of service is warranted where a customer’s presence in the restaurant detracts from the safety, welfare, and well-being of other patrons and the restaurant itself.
  • Fred M ... POLICE ... 2011/04/07 01:38:22
    Fred M Pohl
    +2
    Yes I agree with everything WHy Should others have to put up with it For Who and For What?
  • stcook3 2010/09/10 04:40:03
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    stcook3
    People with class and repsect for others have the common sense and decency to take their child outside during their tantrum. Children want to know that there are boundaries and consequences. Show them real love and parenting by taking them outside and a spanking every now and then let's them know where the limits are. Keep it simple :parents in control raise better citizens.
  • LondonByeTaTa 2010/09/09 20:53:07
  • Don Blough 2010/09/09 15:13:48
    None of the above
    Don Blough
    I still remember when my wife and I celebrated our 30th anniversary at a high priced San Diego restaurant. We had reserved a table with a great view of the beach and looked forward to seeing the beautiful sunset. However, a young couple with a very noisy 3 year old was sitting at the table next to ours. After about 10 minutes of screaming the little guy threw a fork, which hit my face.

    When I complained to the management, his solution was to move us to a table that had no view and was practically in the kitchen. In hind-site, we should have just left. We have 3 grown kids and 5 grandkids now and also own a restaurant in Lake Tahoe. I think it is fine to allow kids but the process must be managed in a way that each guest, including the child, can enjoy their eating out experience. When children scream, the manager should ask the parents to either have them be quite or leave the restaurant with a doggy bag in hand. Anything else would be unfair to the other guests who came to enjoy their meal.

    Don Blough
    Lake Tahoe, NV
  • Fred M ... Don Blough 2011/04/07 01:34:02
    Fred M Pohl
    +2
    I agree with You Brats are to be seen and not heard
  • Isma'ila (God has heard)! 2010/09/09 12:37:20
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    Parents need to be responsible for their children!
  • Raindropkitten™~the author ... 2010/09/09 01:49:10 (edited)
    None of the above
    Raindropkitten™~the author of þhαετ~
    +3
    Nice restaurants, yes. Family-oriented ones, no. Though, I do think when a child is at the point of acting like that the parent should do the obvious thing which is take their child outside until s/he has calmed down enough to come back inside.
  • Artemis ~PHAET 2010/09/08 22:28:51
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Artemis ~PHAET
    +2
    I know that I hate it when I'm in a restaurant trying to have a quiet meal with my fiance or with friends, and inevitably, the five year old at the table behind us starts screaming his or her head off. My siblings and I never misbehaved like that in public.

    I can still remember an incident when I was about seven when my mother took my younger brother and sister and I out for ice cream, and we ran into a woman she'd gone to high school with. The woman looked at us (again, ages seven, six, and three) quietly if a bit messily eating our ice cream and then at her own two kids who were jumping on the table and rolling around on the floor and asked my mother how she got us to sit still like that.

    I mean I understand that, yes, obviously children are going to throw tantrums now and then, but it's up to the parents to teach them that such outbursts are not tolerated. At the very least, you can take the child outside until they've quieted so you aren't disturbing everyone else trying to have a meal in peace. Some parents just let the kids keep screaming or yell at them in the middle of the restaurant which is just as bad as the kids screaming.

    I don't see anything wrong with a restaurant saying that it won't be tolerated, except for the fact that they shouldn't have to say so in the first place. The parents of these children should show their fellow diners the common courtesy of handling this on their own.
  • Socialite Lola 2010/09/08 22:27:18
    None of the above
    Socialite Lola
    +1
    I think it's up to the restaurant. We went out to dine recently at a small romantic bistro only to have our night ruined by a screaming 2 year old. Everyone in the restaurant was annoyed. The parents didn't even try to calm the child down. There are restaurants geared towards children but bringing children to a small romantic bistro is inappropriate.
  • Toria5637 2010/09/08 20:23:44 (edited)
    No, restaurants should be kid-friendly
    Toria5637
    Thats so stupid! Kids are kids! wtf is wrong with people! Theyre KIDS they scream! Thats how it goes! If you cant "tolerate" Kids then you should learn..? and who cares if people want to have "peaceful" meals? Okay maybe you want to get away sometimes but still! Im sure most of those people screamed when they were kids too! Be a little more caring. I dont like the idea..
  • Elle Toria5637 2010/11/18 18:02:37
    Elle
    +2
    Nobody should have to learn to "tolerate" kids in certain public spaces. Yes they do scream, and that's why they should be left at home with a baby sitter. It's better for the kid who is probably bored and better for the parents and the other adults around them. We make accommodations for kids we don't need to cater to their every mood and whim. This is the ADULT world and kids are just living in it. If I'm paying good money to eat out, you damn skippy I have a RIGHT to a peaceful meal. And I have a right to not have someone's screeching infant or toddler ruin it for me. There are plenty of public spaces for children and families.
  • Toria5637 Elle 2010/11/18 23:50:31
    Toria5637
    Uhm.. yes they should :P and seems like you dont like kids, really. Biased opinion much?-_- Kids dont really LIKE babysitters so its not better.. and thats a.. bad way to put it xD Kids are just living in an adult world, jerk much? Sorry but thats..not really.. uh.. nice xP and yeah, you do have a right but the NICE thing to do would be to tolerate them, not that you would know much about being nice to kids..
  • Elle Toria5637 2011/11/03 03:59:08
    Elle
    On the contrary. I adore children and am about to be a mother myself. I am presently an aunt. Children simply don't belong everywhere. It is not appropriate for children who are not old enough to behave themselves to go to fancy restaurants, movies, etc. The only time I have to tolerate kids is when I'm taking care of them in the appropriate settings.
  • Toria5637 Elle 2011/11/03 04:52:47
    Toria5637
    We're not talking about FANCY restaurants.. we're talking about restaurants in general. And no, they don't belong EVERYWHERE.. but if I want to eat.. and I want to bring my kids to dinner.. (if I had kids) I should be able to without having them get kicked out because they're kids and they scream. If I know for sure they're GOING to scream, I probably won't bring them. But if I think they'll generally behave but they just happen to not.. I shouldn't have to deal with people kicking them out.. thats just my opinion, though. I understand what youre saying.
  • crystal... Toria5637 2011/07/01 19:07:27 (edited)
    crystal.kempher
    +3
    So by your logic, dogs are dogs, and therefore we shouldn't be upset if a dog bites us and we get rabies, because, hey, they're dogs! Dogs BITE! That's how it goes!
    See how that works?
    Here's the thing- we shouldn't have to learn to tolerate your screaming child any more than you should have to learn to tolerate a dog that bites with no warning.
    maybe parents should be a little more caring towards the people in their vicinity.
  • Toria5637 crystal... 2011/07/05 08:18:30
    Toria5637
    Uh.. well.. it depends on the situation in both cases.. but I see what you're saying. Personally, I just think banning kids because they scream is a little too much, I understand it's annoying.. and I understand people want a meal in peace.. but I don't think banning kids for screaming is the answer.
  • The Berserker 2010/09/08 20:23:33
    None of the above
    The Berserker
    +2
    When I was a baby, my parents would often take me to restaurant for a nice dinner. If I ever started having a fit, my dad picked me up and walked out of the restaurant until I stopped crying. He would do it every time if I did, sometimes more than once. Every now and then, the manager would give us a warning. But my point is, parents need to have the responsibility to delay their dinner and take care of their kid.
  • JBC American Patriot 2010/09/08 20:19:27
  • Wake The Sheeple 2010/09/08 20:05:58
    None of the above
    Wake The Sheeple
    It's honestly the business owner's right to make that decision for better or for worse.
  • Not That Serious 2010/09/08 19:42:58
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    Not That Serious
    +1
    I go out to eat in paece not have some unruly kid screaming & running up and down the restaurants. Parents have to control them not let them run free.
  • runningintriangles 2010/09/08 19:32:21
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    runningintriangles
    +3
    Honestly... parents need to learn how to control their kids. When my brother and I were little, we never made a fuss when we went out for dinner. Why? Because we knew if we did our parents wouldn't take us out again.

    Just last week, I was eating dinner (with my little brother, coincidently) at a fairly nice restaurant, and this family came it. The one kid started screaming, and without anyone saying a word, the father took said kid outside of the restaurant until the kid calmed down. See, it's possible to deal with these things, and it's most certainly not insulting to ask that parents control their children when in a public place.
  • sue 2010/09/08 19:21:46
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    sue
    +2
    I have two kids and I don't take them to fancy restaurants. As a family, we go to family restaurants. As a couple, we go to restaurants we don't feel comfortable going to with the kids. There is nothing more annowying that paying $10 for a babysitter only to be seated next to kids that are louder than the ones you left at home.

    The other thing is that even in a family or more casual restaurant, you still have to make your kids behave. They should stay in their seats, not tear up napkins or be allowed to otherwise make messes on purpose (you can't help some accidential messes). They should be made to be polite, talk in an indoor voice, and you should be smart enough to bring something to occupy them until the food comes, and after they are finished but before the check comes. If they can't act like humans, you should take them outside, even if you waste your own dinner. If you never teach them how to act in public, they will be jerks in restaurants when they grow up (think loud cell phone talker, people who talk loudly or shout for service, people who ask rudely for special orders, people who don't use a napkin or chew with their mouths open, etc.)
  • Elle sue 2010/11/18 18:04:37
    Elle
    +2
    You are awesome. A parent with some sense. I agree, it's about knowing what public space is appropriate for your child and parenting when you are in a place that accommodates children.
  • squirrelOFdeath 2010/09/08 19:20:42
    None of the above
    squirrelOFdeath
    in restaurants round where i live, you do get kids but they're generally well behaved. if not their parents will be asked to remove them. simple as that.
  • NewWorldOrderRising 2010/09/08 19:13:07
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    NewWorldOrderRising
    +2
    Parents need to grow some balls and learn to physically dicipline their children.
  • crystal... NewWorl... 2011/07/01 19:09:42
    crystal.kempher
    +3
    hehehe...grow some balls...good one...
  • .. 2010/09/08 19:10:10
    None of the above
    ..
    +2
    I think as a courtesy to everyone in the restaurant, it wouldn't be asking to much of a parent to take the child outside in till he or she calms down a little.
  • I am me 2010/09/08 19:06:12
    None of the above
    I am me
    Honestly, I think it depends on the type of resturant it is.... if it's something more upscale and typically a quieter environment, then I can understand.... There are plenty of places for families to go that are family friendly... And I hope I will be the parent that won't hesitate to go home if my child(ren) are acting up in public.
  • eva-fate 2010/09/08 18:58:57
    Yes, keep the screaming brats out!
    eva-fate
    +1
    it doesn't say "polite children will be thrown out" or "families of children will not be tolerated." i think it's a good idea. when i was a kid, i wasn't allowed to eat in restaurants unless i could be polite to the other diners and waitstaff...if i threw a tantrum, i had to go to the car or restroom until it was over. but i never did, because my mother explained to me that going out to eat was a treat for big girls and i had to act like one in order to go. i'm not saying i was a perfect little angel... i used to try to talk to random people in the booths behind me and asked too many questions and tried to get dessert at every restaurant. but i didn't scream or cry.

    i'm not saying kids won't misbehave. because of course they will. but most children can be taught not to scream and throw tantrums in restaurants, and i think children should be taught that they are members of society and have to respect others in it as soon as possible. if this restaurant wants to ask parents to take their kids outside until they calm down, that's fine. kids are a part of society. we shouldn't have to organize our society around them.
  • Koatz 2010/09/08 18:54:22
    No, restaurants should be kid-friendly
    Koatz
    The sign is a bit too much for my taste. It's basically saying, we hate families. I certainly would not patronize it even though I don't have children.

    The restaurant should be child-friendly within reason, of course. If the parents are not doing anything to stop the screaming, they should be politely asked to leave.
  • crystal... Koatz 2011/07/01 19:11:50
    crystal.kempher
    +1
    It doesn't say 'we hate families' it says 'we and our patrons will not tolerate loud, unruly children'. My guess is, if your child is well-behaved, you'll be fine. If, on the other hand, your child is yelling and screaming, you'll be asked to leave...
    same with adults. If we don't feel called upon to tolerate loud, annoying adults, why should we tolerate children acting that way?

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