Should Schools Bring Back Corporal Punishment?

only if the teachers want me to use it on them.

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I agree, but I think that the punishment has not to be a great beating but very light.

They tried punishment in Abu Ghraib. It just didn't work. Teachers should just teach those who want to learn. The rest should be sent to the new frontier.

If it helps yes!

we don't need any more people beating kids

true. We have got a lot of them.

While I agree with corporal punishment, I think it belongs to the parents to do the diciplining. And schools should only be able to do it when given permission by the parents.

Although I do not think it's the school's place to discipline 100% of the time. I blame the problem with the youth today on the parents. Apparently parents are too busy to be bothered with their children's behavior. I saw something on SH where the mayor of Chicago is using Walgreen's gift cards to bribe them to get involved in their children's schools. How sad is that?
The kids today do not feel they will be held responsible for anything they do because they will cry to their parents who in turn will hire a lawyer to sue the school. It's just disgusting to me how parents all act like their child does nothing wrong.

Even though I don't fully agree with bringing back CP, I do agree with most your post. Some Parents are to soft on their kids nowadays and I know because I've met and seen how kids at my school treat their parents and how the parents handle it all in return. Some parents apologize when it is not needed. When its the kid who should be apologizing.
Allot of parents in my town go as far as to letting their teens (Who are way too young) to drink; by buying them alcohol when they want it. And what does that kid give in return? they moan because its not enough.
Its Pathetic really, so I support Parents in disciplining their children physically, but just not to the point of spilling blood or big bruising.
And those parents who let their kids do whatever, need to wake up and set rules.

Thank you for your post, it helps. :)

I got swats in school and trust me...I didn't skip school again....LOL, but I also had parents that did it the right way. They did not coddle and held us responsible for our actions.

If someone uses violence on me first I will be violent back.

I can't blame you. In fact I would worry if you didn't.

As long as it would have strict regulations and parental involvement. It worked for centuries until too many bleeding heart liberals got in charge. Maybe if their parents would have paddled them more when they needed it the schools wouldn't have had to.

Allowing corporal punishment in schools attracts sadistic people to the teaching profession.

Yes, it will only bring in allot of those sadistic fuk's who find it all to entertaining to abuse those of lesser power than them. Using their 'power' as a weapon. Not all, just some.

They're already there.

Beating kids only teaches them that violence is a way to try and solve problems.

I believe that...and it all could maybe lead to an extent that they could quite possibly 'kill.'
Violence to me (This is for allot of cases) mostly only brings disturbance, hate and anger. Hurt, sure, but more anger and hate. Hate towards those who hurt them for only piteous things sometimes. (Not all the time are the cases caused for violence only for not listening, or not doing work or caught passing notes. Some cases deserve to be checked out because those pupils have issues beyond schooling or those teachers have problems...But its still along the same line. Violence.) Anger that could sometimes bottle over and hurt others in time.
It also brings in allot of fear at times. Fear that if they don't hurt that person in turn, then they would get hurt.
Its is like a chain that's hard to break.



I also appreciate the comment and your view on this topic. The voting also helps.

IT SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO PARENTS!!!

I agree...Some parents have the rights....But then I also got to say, and I have seen this, some parents use their 'power' as a weapon as well. Some parents abuse their kids because they resent them, blame them for being born when that child had no say in being born. Using the law as a free get out of jail card. Using it to their 'sometimes' sadistic uses.
Some Parents, and I'm not saying most or all, but some abuse their kids like they were something to be played with, even when their child had done nothing. Like how a cat plays with a mouse, trapping it, teasing it and even nipping it at times.
So their should be limits to how far a Parent and Teacher can discipline a child/student.

I find this subject of bringing back corporal punishment hard to agree or disagree upon, Because Violence will always be among us and getting rid of it will be like trying to get rid of love. It just can't happen.

But do know that your voting and comment does help.

I don't think I'd want someone who couldn't come up with a more effective punishment to be teaching my kids.

who in their right mind would?

Having been principal of a school for "emotionally disturbed" children and adolescents, experience says this is a "no brainer". First, corporal punishment doesn't work beyond early elementary years and then is less effective than simple time outs. Second, the schools would be opening themselves up for lawsuits. Oh, I was was paddled many times in elementary and middle schools to the point that I found it a joke.

Violence doesn't solve anything.

Taking away privileges works well.

Too well with me... I'm still in high school and at times I do do stupid things but I also respect that when my parents take something of 'high use' away from me as punishment, there's a reason.
Sure, I admit I moan but its on instinct....because who likes getting their stuff taken? Not me.

Your comment and voting helps.

Same here.

Along with the ball and chain.

Yes! They should strip the entire teaching staff and paddle their collective bare butts with a 2 by 4 every day until the student test scores reach norms.

You can try and beat someone into obeying but that doesn't change their 'skills' or 'achievement' in things as effectively as just talking to that disturbed student and getting to the source of his/her 'problem' does. (It just takes time. and I'll rather take forever getting to the source of the 'disobedient' child's behavior than beating it down somewhere hard to reach.)
Its better to get to know the students self than trying to abuse it. Because the kid could have some disorder from keeping them remember basic things like 1 1=2 or the kid just hadn't learn't it because they have family problems stopping them from concentrating but the teacher who uses violence won't know, because all they might see is a child disobeying there orders, causing them to raise there upper hands. It just makes life more harder for that child.
Violence brings pain and hate mostly; As getting to know (professionally) the disturbed pupil could let them know how to solve the problem in other means. Whether with future ideas to look to or a person to open up to and feel safe around. Sure somethings won't always work but there is always a way around the thorn bush without getting pricked. ~

Unless that kid had shot at someone then 'paddling' is out of the question for me.

But thanks for your view of things and voting. I appreciate your honesty even though I'm against it and all your guys votes and comments do help.

Violence won't solve anything, it is an age old fact of life that teens are going to be undisciplined, angry, rebellious, and generally mischievous because that's their job and this has been happening since recorded history, but don't take my word for it take the word of two ancient and famous Greek philosophers:

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for 
authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer 
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, 
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their 
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." 

Attributed to Socrates by Plato

And yet people like to say my generation is the worse the world has seen despite the fact that teenagers for every period have been the same.

Well idk what gen you are but in my research of the history of human society and civilization it seem that each generation is a slight improvement over the last either through technological or scientific improvement or through social acceptance of others.

I'm in high school.

Every adult generation has complained about the young for centuries.

I agree, it worked for us. We had respect for our teachers, unlike the kids of today. Most are not punished at home or in school and grow up to be ill mannered adults. My Dad always said he did'nt care if we loved him, but we sure as hell were going to respect him. In the end we did both, and had respect for others as well. A smack on the knuckles never killed anyone.

Spoiling the child at a young age and up until they leave home, even beyond, can cause their ill manners.
Giving them too much free will or not caring on what they get up too all the time gives them ill manners.
But spanking them for talking in class when the teacher was talking, or not listening in class usually gives them ill manners, fear that no-one deserves and thoughts on using violence to their advantages.

I agree a smack on the knuckles is okay...but its embarrassing. And allot of kids, especially teens, don't like getting embarrassed and it only makes most angrier, more spiteful. Sure they won't do what they had done wrong again, but then your planting fear into them. Your making them become closed up. Closed up can be really unhealthy, especially with anger in the mix.

But thanks for your comment and voting, it helps.

i was never spanked when i was young ...i was poorly behaved at high school so my mum gave me two choices a long grounding or ten hard smacks with a wooden flip flop on the ass, i used to take the flip flop most of the time, its embarrassing at 14-15 getting ur assed roasted but it was better then two weeks of not going out lol

When I was in school we WISHED a teacher would. Lol. Maybe we were just violent kids.. But I'm pretty sure the new generation wouldn't have it.

Well, I'm pretty sure you are right about that, and their parents wouldn't have it either!