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Should Restaurants Charge Customers a Fine for 'Food Wastage'?

SodaHead Living 2012/05/18 18:00:00
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We'll admit it: Sometimes our eyes are a little bigger than our stomachs. But we don't expect to pay extra just because we're feeling a little full! The Kylin Buffet, a Chinese restaurant in England offering an all-you-can-eat buffet -- has posted a notice warning customers of a $32 for "food wastage" fine, The Daily Mail reports.

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One mom was told she had to pay the fine after she, her 10-year-old son and 6-year-old niece left two onion rings, a piece of shrimp toast and a spring roll on their plates.

"After we had our starters, we went up for our main course. But a member of staff came over and asked if we weren’t going to eat the food on our plates, and said we would have to pay an extra $32 to cover food wastage costs," Beverley Clark told the Mail. "I was furious and said we were already paying $28 for three meals, but the staff kept checking if we had eaten the food. In the end I wrapped it up in a [napkin], and put it into my bag when they weren’t looking, so it looked like we had eaten it."

After Clark complained, the restaurant deducted about $5 from her bill. "In the end I didn’t have to pay the extra charge, but it felt as though they were trying to rip me off," she said.

Sam Fung, manager at the Kylin Buffet, is standing behind the policy. "I accept that my staff should not have spoken to the family about the food on their plates more than once. However, they left a lot of food from the buffet on their plates and we have to charge for wastage of food," Fung told the Mail.

Now, we don't know how it is in England these days, but in America, you're often given way more food that you could possibly eat. And we also have a growing obesity epidemic ... if anything, restaurants should pay you for NOT finishing your food!
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  • Airhead Catnip 2012/05/22 04:52:02
    Airhead
    You pay to eat, not to waste. I've seen people leave with a plate full of food on the table, its disgusting.
  • Catnip Airhead 2012/05/23 06:06:11
    Catnip
    Well, then that's on them. If they pay for the food, then they can with it as they please. The resteraunt owner can recommend that they take it to go. But the patron is not obligated to accept.
  • Airhead Catnip 2012/05/23 18:29:12
    Airhead
    Have you ever been to a buffet? It sounds like you haven't.
  • Catnip Airhead 2012/05/24 06:39:20
    Catnip
    I've been to quite a few. And I've never seen anyone completely discard a plate of food.
  • Airhead Catnip 2012/05/27 17:28:56
    Airhead
    You must live somewhere where people actually care so I wouldnt expect to see this policy.
  • Catnip Airhead 2012/05/27 20:47:50
    Catnip
    This is New York. We don't give a crap about anything. But we do love a good buffet.
  • Kearstin Carden 2012/05/21 22:18:18
    No
    Kearstin Carden
    That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard since kesha
  • Ailat 2012/05/21 22:10:10
    No
    Ailat
    Not in the least. You paid more than what it cost to make that food. If you choose to not finish it, then really, they already kind of are charging you. Because no matter what, you paid for the full meal. Asking for more money on top of that is ridiculous. With buffets, it's a little more understandable, but they know when they start that there's going to be people who do that. They run the risk of food wastage. That's why it's so expensive; I could go to Olive Garden or something and spend less than 28$ a person. So absolutely not. It's a total scam.
  • i love the cure!!! 2012/05/21 22:06:34
    No
    i love the cure!!!
    What is the world coming to??
    Of course not!!!!!!!!!!
    Once we pay for it, it's ours and we can choose to finish it or not.
  • Airhead i love ... 2012/05/23 18:30:38
    Airhead
    +1
    It's a buffet, you pay for as much as you can eat.
  • i love ... Airhead 2012/05/23 22:10:27
    i love the cure!!!
    Yes, but I'm talking about meals at restaurants.
  • Airhead i love ... 2012/05/27 17:29:38
    Airhead
    but thats not what this is about...
  • Audios 2012/05/21 22:06:22
    No
    Audios
    Normally I would say yes to an issue like this because people can go elsewhere if the don't like the policy. However after reading the story that prompted the question I gotta say no. Here is a case of explicit abuse by the restaurant. A F'ing onion Ring is gunna cost you another $32.00? No and hell no! If you want to make a policy there have to be some pretty stedfast rules and here there clearly is not. The restaurant is just being greedy.
  • Chuck 2012/05/21 21:59:24
    Yes
    Chuck
    +1
    I think if there were a way to regulate a fee, maybe by the weight of the food that is left on the plate, especially after cautioning parents to serve their children and also warning adults that over loading their plates is not necessary for they are allowed to make as many trips to the buffet as they wish, then yes, I think they should be able to do it. I have seen some very overweight people eat some two or three helpings (B I G) helpings and then leave the fourth or maybe the fifth helping almost untouched. I sat sipping tea in a Chinese restaurant and watched a very huge black couple with obese children running all over the place, and making constant trips to the serving counters and left so much food on the table when they left that the waitress asked her boss to come over to view the mess. I personally would have charged them three times as much as anyone else, but then I would have been in court, charged with racism or profiling or some stupid ass charges that only the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are capable of dreaming up.
  • tquesada 2012/05/21 21:54:11
    No
    tquesada
    +2
    If you are that worried about the waste; then, don't have a buffet. lol
  • whitecollar 2012/05/21 21:49:11
    No
    whitecollar
    +2
    No, because often, you are trying a new dish and may not like it. You won't finish the food if it doesn't taste good and you shouldn't pay extra for something you didn't enjoy. If the restaurant has a rule like this you won't return.
  • Airhead whiteco... 2012/05/22 04:54:17
    Airhead
    The places that do this where I live dont charge you if you tell the staff you didn't like it.
  • Bannor Haruchai 2012/05/21 21:33:05
    Yes
    Bannor Haruchai
    +1
    This is nothing new; have seen this in several places and I think it's a good thing.
    I worked at a buffet restaurant for a while many years ago and the waste of food is shocking.
  • LoriLai 2012/05/21 21:32:36
    Yes
    LoriLai
    +1
    There's a chinese buffet by my house that serves snow crab (my favorite) and I always get so mad when families come in rightat 5 for the start of dinner, pile as much crab as they can on their plates, and then don't even eat half of it. Then the buffet runs out of crab around 7 pm and you're left wondering why the hell those people had to waste it like that.
    A $32 charge is excessive, but people who just pile as much as they can on to their plates so that NO ONE ELSE can enjoy it are just jerks who deserve to be charged. It should be a FAIR tax though not some ridiculously expensive tax. I paid to eat there too so I should have as much right to snag a few crab legs as those selfish families.
    You pay to eat as much as you CAN eat, it doesn't mean you own the whole buffet.
  • Lissie 2012/05/21 21:21:20
    No
    Lissie
    +1
    Can they? Yes. Should they? Nope. Bad for business.
  • YouSirName 2012/05/21 21:18:15
    Yes
    YouSirName
    +3
    As long as they post their policy where it doesn't come as a surprise. It's "all you can eat" not "all you can pile on your plate."

    Course may not be good business policy, but that's up to them.
  • Nameless 2012/05/21 21:07:01 (edited)
    No
    Nameless
    There are two ways to avoid this. Restaurants can either not serve so much OR they can just provide take out containers at each table.
    (Oh, and they can compost their food and have local farms come take it away...)
  • Airhead Nameless 2012/05/21 21:28:07
    Airhead
    Buffet... another illiterate...
  • Kearsti... Airhead 2012/05/21 22:26:09
    Kearstin Carden
    How does him saying restaurant instead of buffet make him illiterate?
  • mjays Kearsti... 2012/05/22 00:32:15
    mjays
    Because the question is about restaurants that serve buffets, not typical restaurants where your food is portioned out and served to you. Plus, they don't offer take out containers at buffets.
  • Airhead mjays 2012/05/22 04:15:27
    Airhead
    +1
    lol you beat me to it
  • Airhead 2012/05/21 21:02:45
    Yes
    Airhead
    +2
    At a buffet, hell yeah they should. The local sushi buffets started doing it because people were picking the fish off of their rice and leaving it on their plate. I've seen people walk out of places like the golden corral with a full plate on their table. There are disgustingly wasteful people in this world today. I remember as a young kid I would get punished for blatantly wasting food. Parents don't know how to raise their children anymore.
  • LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME 2012/05/21 20:53:50 (edited)
    No
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    No, because we already paid for the food. It's paid for, the restaurant likely made a profit, the employees get paid, no money is taken away from anybody in there. Everyone else gets to take all the food they want as well, for the same price. This charge afterward IS stealing-- the restaurant stealing from properly paying customers.

    If the restaurant wants to divvy up portions, then to the restaurant managers/owners I say, If you don't like that people may waste food, then don't have a buffet: it is YOU, the restaurant owner, who is wasting the food by serving food in buffet style, which you do in order to attract people FOR the very purpose of offering LOADS of food at once flat price, in the interests of making PROFIT for yourself. And now you want to charge us again on the back end? Nice try.

    Do they also charge customers for the food they ordered/prepared but never sold? Answer: Yes, by marking up the portions to the next customer, cutting back employee hours and benefits, ect. Did they ever consider better management practice, e.g., buying more appropriate amounts of food? Yeah, but that's too hard and they don't make enough money that way and they're not smart enough to turn a profit that way, so they do what? -- That's right, they have a buffet! They bang the bell and wave us ALL in with a hardy, "LOAD up, folks! mooooo!"
  • LisaWay... LisaWay... 2012/05/21 20:55:31 (edited)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    What the restaurant is doing here is the flip side of a person who loads up in pockets or big purse to take more food home. That is cheating the honor system, which system is defined by the restaurant. To those who say YES: Are we saying it's OK to double charge properly paying, honorable customers? We who can't finish our plates should donate to the restaurant to offset that which should be considered one of the drawbacks of the restaurant business in general (an entry in the minus column of all proper bean counters)? At a buffet, we are only supposed to eat what we can there, and nobody's supposed to take away leftovers. The restaurant encourages everyone to pile on with the buffet style, ostensibly to get more bang for your pound. (That's why I myself don't do expensive buffets-- I can never eat that much at one sitting, so it's not discount to me.) What the restaurant is doing here is CHEATING their own honor system-- an interesting twist on the old "bait and switch". Nope, I'm not buyin' it. Nice try, restaurant boy. lol
  • RJS 2012/05/21 20:37:37
    No
    RJS
    +1
    Oh, wait, I didn't read that. Food wastage at a buffet is reasonable to fine. Not $32, but I get it.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/05/21 20:31:47
    No
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    If my family leaves something on the plate it is normally because they did not like it. We often try new things when at a buffet.
  • Allen Webb 2012/05/21 20:27:09
    No
    Allen Webb
    if i pay for a meal i can do what i want with it, short of starting a food fight. if a restaurant has a problem with buffets then don't offer a buffet. try to charge me for uneaten food and the staff may wind up wearing the uneaten food.
  • GregoryO.Kody 2012/05/21 20:24:40
    Yes
    GregoryO.Kody
    +3
    Americans waste 3million pounds of food per week
  • Airhead Gregory... 2012/05/22 04:58:33
    Airhead
    My wife worked at a royal farms (gas station/eatery) and it enraged me at the amount of waste that goes on. As soon as the day is over all their excess food goes right into the dumpster. I mean pounds and pounds of the stuff! They legally cant give it to the needy and for some reason dont donate it to farms for slop.
  • Kelly Yung 2012/05/21 20:22:52 (edited)
    No
    Kelly Yung
    +1
    I'm from the UK and ive never heard of that, it's disgusting! Your paying for the food you eat as it is, you dont expect to get harassed when you go to a restaurant either, it sounds like they were trying to bully the poor woman! This part made me laugh - However, they left a lot of food - alot of food? you kidding me? two onion rings, a piece of shrimp toast and a spring roll is not alot of food! It sounds to me like all theyre bothered about is trying to squeeze money out of people!

    Oh and for the people who say they should only take what they can eat, there's been buffet places like this everywhere for a long time, if they didnt want wastage of food then i'm pretty sure they could do something else than yet again finding a way of squeezing cash out of people, its really not about wasting food its about getting money out of people!
  • Airhead Kelly Yung 2012/05/21 21:08:11
    Airhead
    two onion rings, a piece of shrimp toast, and a spring roll is almost a typical $5 lunch sized meal.
  • Kelly Yung Airhead 2012/05/22 19:01:55
    Kelly Yung
    thats a lunch sized meal? in the US? even in the UK you'd get more than that in a meal, but im basing this opinion as to what happens in the UK as this story is about a restaurant in the UK, (also $5 is about just over £3, so say we paid £5 for a meal you'd get more than that)
  • Maolchathaigh 2012/05/21 20:21:56
    Yes
    Maolchathaigh
    +3
    For all-you-can-eat buffets, yes, absolutely. When you order a meal, sometimes it is larger than you expect, and you cannot finish it. Not a problem, since most of us take the rest home. However, in all-you-can-eat establishments, to discourage theft, one cannot take extra food home. It is expected that you eat what you take from the buffet, since you are the one taking the food. However, I see plenty of people pile it on, regardless of what they can eat, because they feel they have paid for it. All-you-can-eat means all that you can eat, not what you can take home or throw away. People need to be discouraged from wasting tremendous amounts of food in this manner. It is a simple matter to take small portions, and return for more if one is still hungry, so yeah, I say charge the dingbats that feel there is nothing wrong with leaving piles of food leftover to be thrown out.
  • Dan Hood 2012/05/21 20:20:28 (edited)
    No
    Dan Hood
    +1
    If you're that worried about people taking too much food, then you shouldn't open a damn all-you-can-eat buffet. It's one of the inherent losses associated with the business- it's like opening a self serve car wash and fining people for getting the ground wet. It strikes me as being just plain cheap, and it's definitely not the way that they should be treating their customers.
  • Airhead Dan Hood 2012/05/22 04:47:26
    Airhead
    my favorite sign I saw sofar said "It's all you can eat, not all you can waste." It makes a good point.

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