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Should people on welfare be limited on the number of children that the welfare system will pay benefits on?

Peggy 2012/08/08 15:26:41
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Many people on welfare have children just to continue to raise their income at the cost of the tax payer. My salary does not raise according to the number of children I have. If I have more children I must stretch my dollars to cover the cost.
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  • MlssCue =Go Blue= 2012/08/08 16:08:33
    None of the above
    MlssCue =Go Blue=
    +5
    I think yes there should be a limit, there should also be stronger laws to enforce that the deadbeats are paying and ALSO those who have been under the eye of CPS, should not be able to keep giving birth!

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  • Monty 2012/08/20 05:53:36
    None of the above
    Monty
    +1
    pay for one and the rest,your on your own!
  • nbarton2 2012/08/10 22:27:32
    Yes, there should be a limit to the amount paid to a person on welfare regard...
    nbarton2
    Social Security only pays a set limit for the number of kids you have and only based upon income and the same should be for welfare; not based upon the number of kids you have.
  • Robshock 2012/08/10 11:59:17
    Yes, there should be a limit to the amount paid to a person on welfare regard...
    Robshock
    +1
    ABSODAMNLUTELY YES!!
  • ▼♥☆Greencone☆♥▼ PB90s 2012/08/10 00:37:06
    No, we need to provide for every child that is brought into the world.
    ▼♥☆Greencone☆♥▼ PB90s
    It isn't the childs fault if someone is on welfare. I know that some people will say that people will have more children to get more welfare benefits and that sounds perfectly plausable but what is true is not always what sounds plausible so if that is the case then I would like to see some studies that even after accounting for other variables show a link between people being given more welfare if they have children and having more children. Instead of complaining to the governement about welfare why not addopt children so that fewer children have to be on welfare? Or why not educate people about using a condom so that they don't get pregnant? It also says a lot that the people who are against welfare for children are also the same people who do not want their taxes going to pay for birth control even though birth control is less expensive than having children.
  • Peggy ▼♥☆Gree... 2012/08/10 12:26:12
    Peggy
    Totally agree with your options. However, for the most part these people choose not use contraceptives and don't put the baby up for adoption. I know of at least two families in my small circle that would love to adopt. One of them has a 5 bedroom house.
  • Matt 2012/08/09 18:12:24
    Yes, there should be a limit to the amount paid to a person on welfare regard...
    Matt
    +1
    People would call such programs eugenics but our country has to quit giving money away, both at home and abroad.
  • kneedragon76 2012/08/09 11:23:54
    No, we need to provide for every child that is brought into the world.
    kneedragon76
    +1
    Children shouldn't suffer for there parents mistakes
  • kneedra... kneedra... 2012/08/09 11:31:32
    kneedragon76
    +1
    Instead if handing out welfare like its candy I thing there should be. more jobs for women with kids. Like working in a day care for a woman's shelter that house single working women. Common the only reason you should be on welfare is if you can't work. Welfare only perpetuates the problem and that is why there are so many kids on welfare. Mamma having babies to bleed it dry. Its trowing money ata bad situation. Take the money for welfare and put it in to programs that put these women back to work and I can guarantee you they won't have as many kids.
  • Peggy kneedra... 2012/08/09 18:13:32
    Peggy
    It isn't a mistake it is a planned lifestyle.

    The new breadwinner in the family...

    An emergency room physician told me that a woman in her late 20's came to the ER today with her 8th pregnancy.
    She told the first doctor she saw: "My Mama told me that I am the breadwinner for the family." He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money from the State for the family. It goes like this:
    The Grandma calls the Department of Child & Family Services, and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for all of her kids. DCFS agrees, and tells her the
    children will need to go into foster care.

    The Grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and receives a check for $1500 per child each month in Illinois .
    Total yearly income:
    $144,000 tax-free and nobody
    has to go to work!
    In fact, they get more if there is
    no husband/father/man in the home!
    Not to mention free healthcare (Medicaid), plus a monthly card entitling them to free groceries and a voucher for 250 free Obamaphone minutes each month. This does not include WIC and other welfare benefits...
    Indeed, Grandma was correct that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.

    This is how the liberal politicians spend our tax dollars. When this generous program was invented in the '60...









    It isn't a mistake it is a planned lifestyle.

    The new breadwinner in the family...

    An emergency room physician told me that a woman in her late 20's came to the ER today with her 8th pregnancy.
    She told the first doctor she saw: "My Mama told me that I am the breadwinner for the family." He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money from the State for the family. It goes like this:
    The Grandma calls the Department of Child & Family Services, and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for all of her kids. DCFS agrees, and tells her the
    children will need to go into foster care.

    The Grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and receives a check for $1500 per child each month in Illinois .
    Total yearly income:
    $144,000 tax-free and nobody
    has to go to work!
    In fact, they get more if there is
    no husband/father/man in the home!
    Not to mention free healthcare (Medicaid), plus a monthly card entitling them to free groceries and a voucher for 250 free Obamaphone minutes each month. This does not include WIC and other welfare benefits...
    Indeed, Grandma was correct that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.

    This is how the liberal politicians spend our tax dollars. When this generous program was invented in the '60s, the Great Society architects forgot to craft an end date... and now we are hopelessly overrun with people who vote only for those who will continue to keep them on the dole....
    No wonder our country is broke! Worse, the Muslims have been paying attention, and by mandating that each Muslim family have eleven children, they will soon replace the voting bloc above and can be running this country within 50 years.
    Are we alarmed yet?
    Is anybody listening?
    Sincerely,
    Sebastian J. Ciancio, M.D. Urologist,
    Danville Polyclinic, LTD
    Is this a GREAT COUNTRY or what...?
    Don't forget to pay your taxes!!
    There are a lot of “breadwinners”
    depending on you!
    (more)
  • Red Peggy 2012/08/09 21:56:51
  • Peggy Red 2012/08/10 21:20:35
    Peggy
    107 million Americans were on welfare of some kind by the end of
    June of last year? That’s 11 percent more than two years before.
    “Welfare” doesn’t include Medicare or Social Security. At least people
    pay into those programs directly. (The government says that you
    pay in for your own benefit later. In fact, what you pay in, pays for
    benefits going out to those on it now. But that’s another story.)
    In the last three months, more people applied for Social Security disability than found jobs at private businesses?
    43 percent of people who come in to this country are still on welfare 20 years later?
    49.5 percent of Americans pay no income taxes?
    Dependency grows every year. And so does the national debt. Right now, we owe $211 trillion. More than half of that is unsecured—meaning: no collateral. If you replicated that with $100 bills, you'd have 30 stacks of pallets each as tall as the old WTC North Tower (antenna and all), with another, halfway-up tower alongside.

    And if this goes on, you'll need a wheelbarrow of those bills just to buy a loaf of bread. And then that loaf of bread won't be available at any price. Because the whole thing will collapse.
  • Red Peggy 2012/08/10 21:28:50
  • Peggy Red 2012/08/10 22:29:12
    Peggy
    No, that is wrong. You have quickly judged me. I am definitely a believer and standing firmly on 2 Chron. 7:14. I know where my help comes from and it is the Lord. However, you can't pick and choose what you want to believe. In one of your post earlier you wrote they got tired of the bs in the work place and found a way to eat without having to put up with it. I do understand that not everyone on welfare chooses to be there. My mother was on food stamps to raise me but she still worked three jobs. On the other end of the spectrim there is a family here that I know and love that have 3 children. Both mom and dad are in perfect health but don't work. They get food stamps and medicaid, now she is pregnant with her fouth child! So that I don't leave out any details they have been on welfare for 14 years since the first child was born. I am sorry but I have to find that crazy since BOTH ARE CAPABLE OF WORKING IN THERE EARLY 30'S. By the way when I go to see their kids there is always an empty beer case in the front yard. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
    Proverbs 10:4 Lazy hands make for poverty, but diligent hands bring wealth.
  • Red Peggy 2012/08/11 00:59:33
  • nbarton2 Red 2012/08/10 23:32:23
    nbarton2
    We will need to work harder because those who have been bilking the system for many years know the rules and the "loopholes" and we have to keep up to pay for them
  • Red nbarton2 2012/08/11 01:00:51
  • nbarton2 Red 2012/08/11 01:32:45
    nbarton2
    Since when has work been a place people want to go? If given a choice the majority of people would stay home and many on welfare have been in the system for generations and know how to work that system
  • Red nbarton2 2012/08/11 02:12:39
  • nbarton2 Red 2012/08/11 03:29:48
    nbarton2
    Sorry but the majority of people in America don't have the luxury that you do in SF we go to work and tolerate it and go home. The facts are that not all workplaces put the effort in to making workplaces enjoyable. I've been handicapped for the last 5 years but prior to that I actually enjoyed many of my jobs but I worked with kids, my managers I didn't like, but I made sure that those I supervised were taken care of while I worked.
  • Red nbarton2 2012/08/11 03:39:05
  • nbarton2 Red 2012/08/11 04:05:17
    nbarton2
    The country (Government) is not responsible for "being smart about work" or for policing companies and their work policies that is the very definition of socialism. There are safety laws and other work laws in place to keep jobs safe but not all jobs are enjoyable.
  • Red 2012/08/09 11:10:41
  • Red Red 2012/08/09 11:12:38
  • Mr.Steve 2012/08/09 10:47:20
  • BritPunk 2012/08/09 10:25:38
    None of the above
    BritPunk
    Make them have abortions if they get pregnant on welfare !!
  • Red BritPunk 2012/08/09 11:13:18
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/08/09 09:34:22
    None of the above
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    Human rights violations never begin with gas chambers and gulags. They begin with getting the general public to go along with idea of marginalizing a segment of society. "They're just welfare recipients, drug addicts, prisoners, etc" I hear people say. That's right, they're human beings who most of you are about one or two bad decisions away from being just like. Once we successfully marginalize a society, we make them something less than human.
  • foy49 2012/08/09 03:41:18
    None of the above
    foy49
    +1
    Wat is the alternative ? let them just starve ?
  • Beat Ma... foy49 2012/08/09 09:34:48
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    According to some RWNJ sociopaths.... you bet.
  • Red Beat Ma... 2012/08/09 11:16:47
  • WWZ Captain 2012/08/09 03:27:34
    None of the above
    WWZ Captain
    +2
    There shouldn't be any welfare program at all. I can't wrap my head around the concept of just getting a check, and you haven't worked for it. I haven't punched anybody's time clock...but here my money is !! Weird.
  • Beat Ma... WWZ Cap... 2012/08/09 09:36:05
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +2
    You pay for it with your own taxes. The day you get pink slipped and still need to eat, I hope you remember this post. Gonna get another job? Good for you... the average job hunt takes over six months.
  • Red Beat Ma... 2012/08/09 11:28:31
  • WWZ Cap... Red 2012/08/10 01:04:18
  • Red WWZ Cap... 2012/08/10 06:59:25
  • WWZ Cap... Red 2012/08/10 11:53:47
    WWZ Captain
    No. I just couldnt get all the " gibs me dat" that a welfare queen can. Which is my point, it's unfair, and unnecessary.
  • Red WWZ Cap... 2012/08/10 14:21:38
  • WWZ Cap... Red 2012/08/10 22:16:04
    WWZ Captain
    So, you see no problem living on other folks tax money ? While you sit on your ass and watch reruns on BET ?! Sounds about right. What if the Government does decide to stop the free money ? are you going to starve ? riot in the streets ? God, folks like you make me want to vote for Romney.
  • WWZ Cap... Beat Ma... 2012/08/10 00:58:12
  • lucythetooth 2012/08/09 02:57:37
    Yes, there should be a limit to the amount paid to a person on welfare regard...
    lucythetooth
    +1
    However many children they have when they go on welfare should be all that they're paid for. Any subsequent children should not come with a bump in monies received. People with jobs have to decide if they can afford to raise another child, people on welfare should have to do the same.

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