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Should Los Angeles Ban Paper and Plastic Bags?

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Many cities (and even some countries) have banned plastic shopping bags. But Los Angeles is considering taking the trend a step further and outlawing paper bags as well.

The suggested ban was proposed by Los Angeles City Councilman Paul Koretz, who hopes the policy could alleviate the city's litter problem.

Unsurprisingly, environmentalists are incredibly supportive.

"We're hoping that more of these local policies will be a wake-up call," said Kirsten James, water quality director for Heal the Bay.

Large retailers, however, are frustrated by the city-by-city patchwork of laws and hope that the state will issue broader guidelines.

Last year, a proposed statewide ban of plastic bags died in the California Legislature.

The California Grocers Association supported the bill, but it was opposed by the American Chemistry Council, the lobbying group that represents the plastic bag industry.

Under the Los Angeles proposal, stores would be permitted to sell or give away reusable tote bags, but would be fined for using paper or plastic.

The only exception would be for small plastic bags meant to keep raw vegetables and meats separated from other groceries in order to prevent cross-contamination.

What do you think? Should Los Angeles ban both paper and plastic bags?

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  • Assault 2011/09/18 19:49:22 (edited)
    Yes
    Assault
    +14
    Yes, stop being lazy either buy a few reusable cloth bags, bring your own bags hell they can even been old plastic/paper bags if you really have that much of a fetish for plastic/paper bags. Plastic bags make less than no sense to use. They cost way more in the long run and as everyone knows are terrible for the environment. Paper bags require an enormous amount of refining to turn tree pulp into paper, where is hemp once again when you need it.

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  • ducktape 2011/10/27 15:24:30 (edited)
    Yes
    ducktape
    Wow you guys still use paper bags over there??... most we usually see paper bags for here are occasionally to put greetings cards in or penny sweets (candy) for the kids... Plastic bags here arnt banned BUT they've made it harder to get them to reduce them and encourage people to bring something to put their shopping in.... Many shops here will not give out bags unless asked and there are a lot that charge a small fee for them too... or they sell bags for life - either slightly stronger plastic ones that you can return and exchange when they start to fall apart or ones made of material. Bags
  • Paula Fowler 2011/10/11 17:31:28
    Yes
    Paula Fowler
    ahh has anyone seen the 5 floating plastic islands in our oceans , that are made up of mostly plastic bags!!! the fish are eating them and oh guess what then we eat the fish and PLASTIC YUK!!!
  • T. James H 2011/09/23 20:08:03
  • edifyguy 2011/09/20 13:48:32
    No
    edifyguy
    +1
    Big government at its worst......nannyism to the extreme. Guess what will happen? The stores will end up giving away more reusable bags (by weight) than they were the disposable ones, and it'll hurt the environment AND the economy. Well, that's what happens when the know-it-all government types try to "fix" things.
  • concerned dude 2011/09/20 12:48:05
    No
    concerned dude
    most people and many companies are banning LA so who cares what they ban. that would be really fantastic for those stores
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2011/09/20 12:39:31
    No
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Plastic is the most cost efficient and energy saving. This is just another step in eco fascist control.
  • rusty 2011/09/20 11:36:51
    No
    rusty
    Los Angeles should ban Mexicans.
  • H-Dizzle rusty 2011/09/22 15:46:04
    H-Dizzle
    Yeah and looking at your profile picture....you're obviously a crucial member of society.



    Have a nice day! :)
  • david shiel 2011/09/20 07:29:09
    No
    david shiel
    Lunatics and morons.
  • MYSTIC MYSTIQUE 2011/09/20 04:32:55
    No
    MYSTIC MYSTIQUE
    just plastic
  • ★earthbound_misfit★ 2011/09/20 02:02:51
    No
    ★earthbound_misfit★
    +2
    Do I think stores should do this voluntarily? Yes. Do I think it should be a law? No.
  • sally 2011/09/20 01:48:43
    Yes
    sally
    When I'd walk in LA I'd see a bunch of plastic bags like they were tumbleweeds, it was so frusterating getting my feet caught in them. I finally felt what seagulls feel when they get caught in those plastic rings....
  • Chamii 2011/09/20 01:28:35
    Yes
    Chamii
    do something!
  • motownkittys 2011/09/20 01:26:49
    No
    motownkittys
    I don't think paper bags should be banned. Those can be used to recycle newspapers.
  • notokand 2011/09/20 01:18:04
    No
    notokand
    That seems impractical
  • mello 2011/09/19 22:49:00 (edited)
    Yes
    mello
    +1
    My mom and I always use our reusable bags, and they even give us discounts for using them. Win-win, I think. :)
  • Sofahead mello 2011/10/24 23:49:03
    Sofahead
    If you believe in using you're own bags that's great but the two cent refund per bag, typical for New Jersey, really isn't much of an incentive, sometimes it seems more like an insult.
  • mello Sofahead 2011/11/01 23:02:48
    mello
    My mom and I are not proud people. We'll take whatever money we can get, even if it is two cents.
  • Lily Blooms Eternal 2011/09/19 21:57:57
    No
    Lily Blooms Eternal
    +3
    LA should ban mental midgets. Which would amount to mass evacuation, actually.
  • the fuze 2011/09/19 21:50:13
    No
    the fuze
    +1
    Stopping the city's litter problem? THAT is what they are trying to accomplish?

    Nope. Those who are the litterers will continue to litter, I was at my local Walmart just the other day and on the way out to my car I found an electronics package 3 feet from the garbage can. So I ask you, do you really think this will stop the litter?
  • ~ The Rebel ~ 2011/09/19 21:49:59
    No
    ~ The Rebel ~
    +3
    Junk bag science has been defeated!

    The truth comes out—spread the word that anti-plastic bag misinformation has been debunked!

    A reusable bag importer called ChicoBag recently settled a lawsuit brought against them for spreading misinformation about plastic bags. ChicoBag created a counterfeit EPA website and knowingly shared falsified NOAA data with schools, all to advance its profits and confuse the plastic bag debate.

    http://www.bagtheban.com/take...
  • Lily Bl... ~ The R... 2011/09/19 22:00:40
    Lily Blooms Eternal
    +2
    ChicoBag! Yeah, I have seen their product. The local health food co-op was having a "sale" on their re-usable bags. I remember because they were on sale for like $10 and they were identical to one I got at Walmart for fifty cents.
  • Lerro DeHazel 2011/09/19 21:24:01
    No
    Lerro DeHazel
    +3
    No, L.A. needs to ban Illegal Alliens; THAT is what L.A. needs to ban . . .
  • Dickens 2011/09/19 21:01:48
    No
    Dickens
    +1
    ...I use cloth bags, but I've never been a fan of bans...
  • rcardon 2011/09/19 19:32:06
    No
    rcardon
    +1
    The only way I would agree to this is if the stores gave away the tote bags. Otherwise, it wouldn't pass my vote.
  • VH-GMC 2011/09/19 18:32:57
    Yes
    VH-GMC
    +2
    I don't think LA should be the only one everyone else should too
  • Bearish 2011/09/19 17:08:13 (edited)
    No
    Bearish
    +2
    MORE MONEY OUT OF THE HANDS OF AMERICAN WORKERS...
    All below MADE IN CHINA




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    Sharemoney hands american workers china shttp1 bp blogspot comzb SHOPPING BAGS MADE IN CHINA
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  • Robbb Bearish 2011/09/19 17:27:26
    Robbb
    +1
    so why don't American workers make them instead. There is no doubt that these things are ecologically damaging and that people American or otherwise have to be forced to look after their environment like a child is forced to clean up their room. I suppose there is a difference of opinion regarding whether a cleaner environment is important, however people are starting to see some sense. Besides how many people do you think are involved in the actual production of plastic bags? The industry that makes them is highly automated and all it will do in banning them is reduce the load of a few truck drivers. It is the sort of product that requires little or no human labor to produce.
  • Bearish Robbb 2011/09/19 18:43:53
    Bearish
    +3
    Tell the persons who loses their job that its no big deal.. We cant make those bags in the USA because the UNIONS will want a piece of the action and each bag will cost $75.00 to make.
  • Robbb Bearish 2011/09/19 18:51:27
    Robbb
    +1
    There are very few people to tel that to and the damage they do not to mention the mes they make I doubt of they would be sorely missed. Reality is a hard task master though. And the reality is that these things don't create employment they are just convenient and make a mess.
  • Bearish Robbb 2011/09/19 19:21:43 (edited)
  • ~ The R... Bearish 2011/09/19 21:52:04
  • Robbb Bearish 2011/09/20 06:23:57
    Robbb
    Because they make plastic bags from 100% recycled plastic bags does not mean that 100% of plastic bags are recycled. We only have to look at the contents of some of the sea life in any place in our oceans, against any wire fence on a windy day. You are right It is the end user that disposed of the things the wrong way. Personally I like to use them and if I get too many to reuse myself I return them for recycling. So you got that one right The pigs that that make the mess are responsible for the problem. Whether you like it or not something needs to be done about the problem of any number of different things that stuff up the environment. and it is just a fact of life that as certain industry come to an end the people in them have to find another way to earn their crust.
  • LisaSmith 2011/09/19 16:19:59 (edited)
    No
    LisaSmith
    +1
    Didn't they find lead in some of the tote bags? I guess we could all strip our pillows and take the pillow cases with us when we go shopping so we have something to carry our purchases in.
  • Andrea 2011/09/19 15:22:35
    Yes
    Andrea
    ALL stores should.
  • Scott 2011/09/19 15:01:06
    Yes
    Scott
    +2
    Yes, in fact the whole concept of shopping should be given close scrutiny. What about people and animals that can't shop? It isn't fair that some can shop and others can not.

    People should attend government feeding centers once per week. There, they can be injected with nutrient rich paste directly into a personal feeding tube. Nutrients are carefully measured so that the human can survive 170 hours before requiring another feeding. Plus, the paste is balanced so there is 95% less human waste. Humans of course will be charged a waste tax which will fund the Quality Of Life Department.

    President Obama said "It's a perfect system! After a few weeks of adjustment, there haven't been any complaints! And the rumors that complainers were simply not fed are complete lies, probably from the Tee Party."
  • edifyguy Scott 2011/09/28 13:12:08
    edifyguy
    HAHA! Nice satire piece.
  • FAM of the OMC 2011/09/19 15:00:12
    Yes
    FAM of the OMC
    +1
    Sure, why not? They outlawed thought long ago, why should this particular banning matter?
  • DANNY_B0i♛ 2011/09/19 14:31:25
    No
    DANNY_B0i♛
    +1
    How are you gonna carry your stuff? By hand?
  • Robbb DANNY_B0i♛ 2011/09/19 17:29:22
    Robbb
    In a reusable bag.

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