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Should Kids Under 13 Be Allowed to Use Facebook?

SodaHead Living 2012/06/05 17:00:00
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It's well known that Facebook does not permit users under 13 years old -- and that many kids find a way to use the social networking site anyway. All that could change, though, now that Facebook is developing technology that would allow kids under 13 to use the site under parental supervision, The Wall Street Journal reports.

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According to the WSJ, there are a few possibilities in the works. One would connect
children's accounts to their parents', allowing mom and dad to decide whom their kids can "friend" and what applications they can use.

It does seem incumbent upon Facebook to come up with something, since many kids lie about their ages to get accounts. Last year, Consumer Reports said 7.5 million children under the age of 13 were using the site, including more than five million under the age of 10. And last fall, a study sponsored by Microsoft Research found that 36 percent of parents were aware that their children joined Facebook before age 13, and many even helped their kids to do so.

But given that adults have privacy concerns about Facebook, is the site safe for kids? And could it make them vulnerable to predators and bullies?
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  • Bob P. Clarkson 2012/06/05 20:04:22
    No
    Bob P. Clarkson
    +23
    Adults have no concept of security on the Internet and children of all ages almost universally trust that everyone is as "nice and good" as they are. My now 15 year old granddaughter got on Facebook at 13, and even though her Dad took her off Facebook, she got on under another name using a friend's computer.
    Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
    I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
    I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
    I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
    She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" th...

















    Adults have no concept of security on the Internet and children of all ages almost universally trust that everyone is as "nice and good" as they are. My now 15 year old granddaughter got on Facebook at 13, and even though her Dad took her off Facebook, she got on under another name using a friend's computer.
    Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
    I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
    I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
    I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
    She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" the Internet was, again.
    Since a number of her friends had "friended" me, and some friends of the real Steve, kind of computer specialists, I showed her how easier it was to track her, and them, using Facebook and Google Earth.
    She was still put out with grandpa when she left, but two days later she took down her Facebook account - and so did two of her friends. She now gives security lectures to her friends that want to know why she doesn't have a Facebook page.

    She now has unlimited minutes on her iPhone, and actually likes it better than Facebook. I'm sure she and all of her friends will have arthritic thumbs when they get older, and I'm sure they will figure out something else that is probably just as dangerous, but parents and grandparents can only deal with what we know.
    Oh, it took her only a week to forgive me, but when she told her dad why she took down her Facebook page, he was bent out of shape for about a month for sticking my nose in. It was "his job" to guide and guard her through to adulthood. When my quick statement about I did what he would have to have hired someone else to do and didn't charge him for my work finally sunk in.
    I was guilty that I usurped his parental job, but I've always been a Type A, so it never even dawned on me to consult him - I just did it to protect my granddaughter.
    I'm not sure I would do it much different, anyway.










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  • u000 2012/06/06 19:03:09
    Yes
    u000
    +2
    but only under supervision of their parents
  • Nate Hubert 2012/06/06 18:58:21 (edited)
    No
    Nate Hubert
    +3
    There are so many reasons not to. Hackers and spammers, for one thing - they're rampant even for people *my* age: a friend's account gets hacked, and then it will send you a link that if you click and follow the instructions you will get hacked too. Not to mention viruses, or worse, online predators.



    Plus, 13 is too young to be sending out all of your personal information to corporate hawks trying to get your money...
  • adeenmc... Nate Hu... 2012/06/06 19:28:15
    adeenmckenziekennedy
    Agreed):
  • Runaway Nate Hu... 2012/06/06 20:03:41
    Runaway
    +1
    Hackers and spammers only get to you if and when you provide them with an avenue to do so. If Mom and Dad are monitoring their kid's activities, those avenues should be very minimal.

    Not that I really trust Mom and Dad to be secure online. Most of them are running Windows, for starters . . .
  • bennett.dunn1 2012/06/06 18:44:29
    Yes
    bennett.dunn1
    +3
    Since they are going to anyway, you might as well make it legal, and have them supervised.
  • JD1980 bennett... 2012/06/06 19:15:25
    JD1980
    +1
    Are these 13 year old's and under...or parolee's you are reffereing to???
  • bennett... JD1980 2012/06/08 16:40:54
    bennett.dunn1
    I'll give you a hint: not the latter.
  • JD1980 bennett... 2012/06/13 21:48:00
    JD1980
    The problem lies in "there is no supervision"...the kids can run circles around most of their parents when it comes to technology and guise themselves without the parents even knowing!
  • bennett... JD1980 2012/06/14 02:46:53
    bennett.dunn1
    Well perhaps parents need to educate themselves about technology and get a clue :p
  • Tony Bensley 2012/06/06 18:43:06
    Yes
    Tony Bensley
    +2
    A very qualified yes. This may sound weird, but I do feel that kids under 13 using Facebook (Or any social networking site) should be treated in a similar fashion to older (I hope!!) teens regarding the subject of sex. While either may not be the most desirable prospect to concerned parents, I think it is better to educate our children about taking appropriate precautions, rather than turn a blind eye and hope that nothing bad happens!
  • JD1980 Tony Be... 2012/06/06 19:13:34
    JD1980
    +1
    How about parents being parents instead of suggesting online sex education...geez people, really???
  • nightowl Tony Be... 2012/06/06 19:56:22
    nightowl
    I've never agreed with that philosophy. Proper social skills can be taught by simply imparting your knowledge, experience and understanding to them. You can teach children how to interact with people in the real world under your supervision and they will be fine when it comes time to cut them loose in cyber-world.

    It's the same with drugs, sex and alcohol. People don't have to get drunk, get high and have sex to understand and predict how those activities will impact their lives.
  • Margaret Jacobson 2012/06/06 18:41:56
    No
    Margaret Jacobson
    +3
    Most are not really ready .....maybe at age 16.......they are SO MANY PREDATORS........looking to engage a lonely preteen who gives out too much or wrong information ?? maybe the predator will find the teen or make life "difficult" for the unsuspecting teen? NOT TO MENTION BULLIES that the teen ALREADY knows......also bullies that harass them.....maybe tell things that are not true or accurate ???
  • Runaway Margare... 2012/06/06 20:07:14
    Runaway
    So many predators - as opposed to what? Do you believe there were fewer predators before the intertubez?

    Statistics please. I would wager a nice sum of money that predators are easier to find today than they were a few decades ago. I get so tired of the "Think of the children" stuff. It justifies all sorts of laws that are unethical, immoral, and unconstitutional.
  • lalala :3 2012/06/06 18:41:49
    Yes
    lalala :3
    +2
    they already do so its kinda pointless for a age limit :/
  • JD1980 lalala :3 2012/06/13 21:49:52
    JD1980
    Do you feel that way about the drinking age as well? Just want to know where your head is coming from...
  • lalala :3 JD1980 2012/08/28 22:59:40
    lalala :3
    well high schoolers drink it too where have you been since like the 80's my sister when she was 5 broke a bottle of vodka on the floor and tried drinking it but i stoped her but your right so people over 30 shouldnt kiss too :D plus ive seen 8 yr olds on facebook so yeah ...
  • JD1980 lalala :3 2012/08/29 17:46:07
    JD1980
    There are always people that do it...that's not the point...it still boils down to one of those right or wrong things. Kids are not mature enough at that age to know the different dangers that lurk on the web...hell, half the adults don't. Cheers...
  • lalala :3 JD1980 2012/08/29 22:39:55
    lalala :3
    true but facebook doesnt have a filter or anything to tell if your over 13 or not ive seen it :I
  • skevich 2012/06/06 18:39:03
    No
    skevich
    +4
    Kids need face to face interaction to learn social skills and how to read body language.
  • angie45 2012/06/06 18:38:20
    No
    angie45
    +3
    much too young for facebook, they should have already needed parental supervision.
  • Taylor Mangile 2012/06/06 18:33:58
    Yes
    Taylor Mangile
    +1
    Yeah we should let all 13 year olds use facebook
  • kleeners 2012/06/06 18:30:07
    No
    kleeners
    +3
    We are creating kids that are merely drones with all of the social websites. Disgusting that our culture is being damaged by the likes of Facebook. Glad to see that there stock is tanking and not worth investing in.
  • adeenmc... kleeners 2012/06/06 19:32:29
    adeenmckenziekennedy
    agreed):
  • Runaway kleeners 2012/06/06 20:08:21
    Runaway
    The drones have already taken over. The education system has been churning them out for about 50 years now.
  • Neesha 2012/06/06 18:30:07
    Yes
    Neesha
    +2
    with parents consent and only the parent has the email and password and not the kids.. i dont see why not and not only that the parent should sit there as the child is on and the child can only be on for a few minutes and the parent adds all friends and checks page out on a daily.
  • Peacock 2012/06/06 18:21:51
    No
    Peacock
    +3
    Remember being 13? Everything was a "goof", and we all thought that we were invincible. Too many "apps", which I don't use are on facebook, and you really don't know if a 13 year old would put up a photo, or say something as a joke, but could do damage. Kids are doing homework on computers, so it is pretty hard for parents to monitor each minute they are in use. Since BLOCKING is an option, that makes seeing everything harder...It's not necessary..they see their friends at school. Too many sick people are out there!
  • adeenmc... Peacock 2012/06/06 19:33:03
    adeenmckenziekennedy
    very true You are right 100%
  • HipJipC 2012/06/06 18:08:31 (edited)
    Yes
    HipJipC
    +4
    Depends on the child, their maturity level and the parents willingness AND IMPLEMENTATION of monitoring. Let's face it folks. The internet is a community and like our regular community is filled with wonder, goodness and danger. If a parent is unable or unwilling to monitor their child on the internet it could be just as bad as letting them walk down a dark alley alone in the middle of the night. Unfortunately that protection can only go so far. In the real world and the cyber world, some things are just beyond our control. You just do the best that you can. Both my girls are adults now and I was lucky I got them safely through both worlds as children. Now it's up to them.
    Edit: Addition
    I just noticed how many "nos" there are here. My question to everyone who is under the "fear" factor of Facebook is, "Do you also think a child should be kept from school or anything else in the real world outside the internet?" There is more real immediate, physical danger in the outside world.
  • nightowl HipJipC 2012/06/06 20:21:47
    nightowl
    +1
    You make some great points. I just wonder how many parents really have the vigilance to truly monitor their kids' online activity. I would guess that any parent that is that attentive is probably equally attentive in all other parenting aspects and their kids would be fine regardless of what they exposed their kids to.

    In the end, this question probably isn't really about FB at all but about parenting philosophy.
  • HipJipC nightowl 2012/06/08 19:38:54
    HipJipC
    Agree. Even if parents become hyper vigilant it still won't guarantee anything. We do the best that we can. Life is mostly a crap shoot.
  • Jill 2012/06/06 18:04:59 (edited)
  • HipJipC Jill 2012/06/06 18:10:37
    HipJipC
    +2
    People with children they love and care about.
  • Myopinionmatters 2012/06/06 18:03:00
    Yes
    Myopinionmatters
    +1
    As long as they are using safety measures and have an adult watch over their account there really isn't a problem with socializing.
  • MS.CHARMAINEAuthority.SIMS 2012/06/06 17:54:33
    No
    MS.CHARMAINEAuthority.SIMS
    +3
    In my case it would be very COMPLICATED!!!!!!! for my -13 yr.old- granddaughter/daughter not to have one! WHY? she had one before...without my permission... an ADULT tooken upon themself to make her one up...she had it about 3 or four years until my son brought it my attention...out of sight..out of mind...so far it has been deactivated!!!! if they want they get!!! one thing for sure...you can't keep going through LIFE being DISRESPECTFUL.
  • MS.CHAR... MS.CHAR... 2012/06/06 17:59:18
    MS.CHARMAINEAuthority.SIMS
    o...we both have the same name...milddle name are different...um!
  • swp 2012/06/06 17:47:33
    No
    swp
    +4
    Nobody should use Facebook. It sucks.
  • Terri 2012/06/06 17:44:34
    No
    Terri
    +3
    HELL no!! My kids have been bugging me for a couple years to let them have Facebook profiles, and I refuse to let them! I don't care if ALL their friends have their own, I'm not THEIR irresponsible parents!!
  • sarah 2012/06/06 17:42:44
    Yes
    sarah
    +4
    under 13? yes. under 10? no.
  • Rocky 2012/06/06 17:39:56 (edited)
    No
    Rocky
    +5
    I don't think they have the mechanism to work out if there is some sort of loser/predator hunting them. I think someone should be looking at who is trying to contact them until they are a bit older and able to judge for themselves. I might be out of date - of course I am - but I still loved my stuffies and dolls at 13. I would never have known a predator at 13.

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