Adults have no concept of security on the Internet and children of all ages almost universally trust that everyone is as "nice and good" as they are. My now 15 year old granddaughter got on Facebook at 13, and even though her Dad took her off Facebook, she got on under another name using a friend's computer.
Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" th...
Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" th...
Adults have no concept of security on the Internet and children of all ages almost universally trust that everyone is as "nice and good" as they are. My now 15 year old granddaughter got on Facebook at 13, and even though her Dad took her off Facebook, she got on under another name using a friend's computer.
Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" the Internet was, again.
Since a number of her friends had "friended" me, and some friends of the real Steve, kind of computer specialists, I showed her how easier it was to track her, and them, using Facebook and Google Earth.
She was still put out with grandpa when she left, but two days later she took down her Facebook account - and so did two of her friends. She now gives security lectures to her friends that want to know why she doesn't have a Facebook page.
She now has unlimited minutes on her iPhone, and actually likes it better than Facebook. I'm sure she and all of her friends will have arthritic thumbs when they get older, and I'm sure they will figure out something else that is probably just as dangerous, but parents and grandparents can only deal with what we know.
Oh, it took her only a week to forgive me, but when she told her dad why she took down her Facebook page, he was bent out of shape for about a month for sticking my nose in. It was "his job" to guide and guard her through to adulthood. When my quick statement about I did what he would have to have hired someone else to do and didn't charge him for my work finally sunk in.
I was guilty that I usurped his parental job, but I've always been a Type A, so it never even dawned on me to consult him - I just did it to protect my granddaughter.
I'm not sure I would do it much different, anyway.
Google.
(more)Grandpa has been playing with computers since we were using punch cards, and even though I no longer write programs, I stumble my way through the computer world.
I established an account as a fifteen year old boy with pictures I borrowed from a neighbors son, then "stalked" her and convinced her to meet me at a mall - it was really safe that way. When she walked in to the food court, she was surprised to see me and acted like she wanted me to disappear before "Steve" got there.
I showed her the file on her and "Steve" and she was P.O.'d I had spied on her.
I showed her where her school was, where her best girlfriends lived, where she lived and gave her my "On-line Security" talk.
She listened as a know-it-all 13 year old listens, which to say is, not at all, and continued to hammer me about "spying" on her. I logged on to Facebook with my laptop, and when I signed in to my Steve persona, she got very quiet. Then I retold her what I had done and showed her how "unsafe" the Internet was, again.
Since a number of her friends had "friended" me, and some friends of the real Steve, kind of computer specialists, I showed her how easier it was to track her, and them, using Facebook and Google Earth.
She was still put out with grandpa when she left, but two days later she took down her Facebook account - and so did two of her friends. She now gives security lectures to her friends that want to know why she doesn't have a Facebook page.
She now has unlimited minutes on her iPhone, and actually likes it better than Facebook. I'm sure she and all of her friends will have arthritic thumbs when they get older, and I'm sure they will figure out something else that is probably just as dangerous, but parents and grandparents can only deal with what we know.
Oh, it took her only a week to forgive me, but when she told her dad why she took down her Facebook page, he was bent out of shape for about a month for sticking my nose in. It was "his job" to guide and guard her through to adulthood. When my quick statement about I did what he would have to have hired someone else to do and didn't charge him for my work finally sunk in.
I was guilty that I usurped his parental job, but I've always been a Type A, so it never even dawned on me to consult him - I just did it to protect my granddaughter.
I'm not sure I would do it much different, anyway.
Google.
Think about it, people even mess with other people's credit cards through the internet from a one time legit buy with your favorite big time companies like Amazon.com. Amazon is not the bad guy, but someone lurking around, waiting for the easiest target to exploit who sends some credit information over the net, grabs the numbers and passcode, and that's it! Yes, even though Amazon tries to keep their site secure, the bad guys are constantly making new programs to break the codes, and Amazon can only defend against what it knows is there, which means at least one person is attacked before they know to put up more securities.
This is the same with chat rooms with baddies! They are lurking, waiting for the one kid that is not being watc...
Think about it, people even mess with other people's credit cards through the internet from a one time legit buy with your favorite big time companies like Amazon.com. Amazon is not the bad guy, but someone lurking around, waiting for the easiest target to exploit who sends some credit information over the net, grabs the numbers and passcode, and that's it! Yes, even though Amazon tries to keep their site secure, the bad guys are constantly making new programs to break the codes, and Amazon can only defend against what it knows is there, which means at least one person is attacked before they know to put up more securities.
This is the same with chat rooms with baddies! They are lurking, waiting for the one kid that is not being watched by his or her parents, and that person willl be the one that will be attacked. Just keep that in mind as you use the chat rooms, and make sure your parents know where you go, and if anyone unpleasant bothers you more than once. That is a big part of being safe on the internet.
I think if parents are teaching their kids to use the internet, and their parents set up the facebook page for their kids, and are fully able to access the child's page and personal settings to make sure they are as safe as possible, they will not only have full responsibility and accountability for what their kids do, but they will have another way to check up on who their chilren are friends with.
I think yes but with supervision from a senior/parent,etc...
Simply scaring kids away from it like gramps did in the top comment is a hideous approach. That's just going to make them distrust their family and hide everything.
My best friend is an undercover cop who poses as a 10 yr old kid who befriends any kid on FB or message boards, he convinces them that he's one of them that they basically give him all of the information he would need to kidnap the child. When he gets enough proof, he goes to the child's home and tells the parents what their child did online and the child finds out who their friend really is and for the most part they're shocked and the parents take action in order to keep their child safe by monitering what they do online by keeping the computer in the living room or the dining room where they can see what their kid is doing.