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Should authorities investigate the parents of morbidly obese children for child abuse?

Heisenberg 2009/07/22 18:42:06
Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
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  • Heisenberg 2009/07/22 18:51:59
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    Heisenberg
    +11
    As horrible as it is, I think the government should not be in the business of raising healthy children.

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  • Isabel Soto 2013/04/18 01:00:36
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Isabel Soto
    Believe it or not, child obesity IS a health issue and it IS the parents fault, kids do not decide what to eat (they shouldn't decide, they should have a healthy diet fot a healthier future). THis can lead to a tremendous amount of health issues.
  • Sherry Mattison 2012/04/03 13:04:22
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    Sherry Mattison
    +1
    I know from personal experience that it's not always what the child is eating. Sometimes there's some type of medical cause. Dont assume overweight people all eat like pigs. Some starve themselves to no avail.
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  • angela 2012/03/04 18:09:40
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    angela
    +1
    Yes because sometimes morbidly obese children are physically disabled and cannot get around so obese children of any age should be removed from the home ammieadately
  • H15tory 2011/11/19 12:44:17
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    H15tory
    +1
    I voted NO and can't see how to change the wrong answer being displayed!

    There are many reasons why a child [or an adult for that matter] have weight issues. Some of it might be down to poor parenting either by ignorance or choice or parental income, the food on offer at supermarkets tends to be of the sugary and fatty kind.

    Genetics also plays its part too [at long last] scientific evidence is backing up what can obviously be seen in families! Some mat argue that the bad eating habits of a family are learn't behaviour and explains why parents then child have issued. However I am a keen family historian and have lots of photos of my ancestors many generations removed from me and guess what even back into the mid 1800's they all come in many shapes and sizes, not much junk food around then and much more manual labour and exercise.

    I have weight issues have done from around the age of 8 when I was put on my first diet. Diets don't work in the end the dieter often ends up fatter now I have stopped dieting my weight has been stable for the last 8 years not ideal but at least constant which is much healthier [now also proven] than constantly loosing and then gaining more weight.

    We have two children one who doesn't have any weight issues and one that does. It saddens me my son...



    I voted NO and can't see how to change the wrong answer being displayed!

    There are many reasons why a child [or an adult for that matter] have weight issues. Some of it might be down to poor parenting either by ignorance or choice or parental income, the food on offer at supermarkets tends to be of the sugary and fatty kind.

    Genetics also plays its part too [at long last] scientific evidence is backing up what can obviously be seen in families! Some mat argue that the bad eating habits of a family are learn't behaviour and explains why parents then child have issued. However I am a keen family historian and have lots of photos of my ancestors many generations removed from me and guess what even back into the mid 1800's they all come in many shapes and sizes, not much junk food around then and much more manual labour and exercise.

    I have weight issues have done from around the age of 8 when I was put on my first diet. Diets don't work in the end the dieter often ends up fatter now I have stopped dieting my weight has been stable for the last 8 years not ideal but at least constant which is much healthier [now also proven] than constantly loosing and then gaining more weight.

    We have two children one who doesn't have any weight issues and one that does. It saddens me my son has inherited my weight problems and now the anti what ever they don't have a problem with are busy criticising people with weight issues I know we will always have a tough time. BUT people should stop making sweeping generalisation comments.

    I cook every day from scratch healthy food we eat lots of salads and fruit is always available. I only buy biscuits [cookies] cakes, sweets [candies] diet soda's, crisps [chips] etc for my daughter [not many] and these I have to keep locked in the car BECAUSE my son does everything he can to thwart our efforts to keep him away from eating the wrong food! He will wait till we are asleep at night and take the kitchen door key, or get the car keys. We had to make him packed lunches as the school canteen staff would let him have 2nd, 3rd's and 4ths it's a constant battle with all the sweets and cakes other children bring into school as well school fairs where they are prevalent. Doing well and good behaviour in school are all rewarded with sweets. He has even eaten mouldy food put out to go in the bin [tho claims he didn't know it was], stock cubes because he thought they were sweets!

    To control his appetite we have learnt to restrict him from eating sugary or starchy food because once he has eaten these then he can not stop eating. I could and do cry because he constantly undermines any help we try to give him. So there you have it we are terrible parents because we lock food away from him and stop him eating the things that are bad. He's about 28-35lb overweight at best we have got him to loose 14lbs at best now he yo-yo's 7lb on/off.
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  • aj 2011/10/05 02:57:06
    Undecided
    aj
    An obese child is definitely a sign of poor parenting and/or lack of proper nutrition information. I believe it is something that should be looked at more seriously that it currently is. As was previously noted.. Parents get reported for abuse because of malnourishing a child; it can cause serious health problems and even death. Over feeding your child will do the same thing... health problems and death. Until the government actually decides to put more funds into properly publicising the seriousness of the issue and help schools and homes educate children AND adults, i don’t think things will change and people will still consider it a personal family issue.
    As it is now, obese children are not considered victims of abuse. But if more information was given and publicly advertised i think that in time it will become unacceptable in society just as other child abuse is.
  • Jay K 2011/04/27 23:50:03
    Undecided
    Jay K
    +2
    I would like to say yes, but Morbidly Obese isn't as big as we like to think it is (The BMI seems to get more things wrong than right). To allow the government to 'investigate' such cases might actually do more harm than good; especially seeing that some 'cases' may be the happenstance uncontrollable problems that may lead to extreme embarrassment for the family.

    Plus, the most common factor for a 'guilty' party would be food. I may sound like a fatty for being concerned about this, but I don't think I would want the government to be allowed to question what I buy and purchase in legal means. Not to mention to protocol that would need to be created for dealing with foreign cultures...
  • paul 2010/11/14 09:04:23
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    paul
    +1
    the word MORBID is a clear ringer isn't it. you kill your childs socialy because he gets ridiculed, he can't participate in most activities. And they die younger as well.
    And if that does not do it do it for your own tax paying dollars. these obese people are one of the major contributors to exploding healthcare expenses.
  • John 2010/08/22 02:01:11 (edited)
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    John
    +2
    Whether you like it or not healthy lifestyle and eating habits are established in early childhood by the parents of a child. If a parent fails to do this and the result is a morbidly obese child (evidence must be given that it is not the result of a genetic disorder, slow metabolism or medical condition) then the parent is soley resposible for a member of society who will cost the government millions of dollars in health costs over their lifetime as well as having a limitied capacity to perform a useful job. Therefore, yes the government needs to step in and make it clear that parents need to try harder to raise a healthy child..or not have one at all.
  • EddieFatu 2010/07/02 19:16:06
    Undecided
    EddieFatu
    +4
    Its not surprising.This child is very normal.but he has extra 5-6 kg and its not important.iam 15 years old and iam 67kg. :)
  • Abby 2010/02/19 03:05:35
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Abby
    +2
    If a child died from starvation or malnutrition and it was preventable it would be considered abuse, why should this be any different? Letting your child get to that state is giving them a death sentence and it is the parent who should take responsability. This isn't a bit of name calling in the playground we are talking about, this is a serious life threatening problem!
  • maura 2009/09/21 02:14:42
    Undecided
    maura
    +3
    I really don't know. I would agree that parents rasigin obese children is wrong and horrible, but there is just such an obvious gray area of what's the parent's fault. Ristricting a child's eating can be dangerous with an angry parent. And who are we to judge that it's the parent's fault? What if the kid is just stuffing big macs?
  • paul maura 2010/11/14 09:07:22
    paul
    +4
    where does the child get the money from? when this starts the child gets the money from his family so... there is your responsibility.
  • pharmacy 2009/09/13 15:22:02 (edited)
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    pharmacy
    Obesity in children is MUCH more dangerous, because as they grow, the chambers of their heart become encased in fat; leading to a life of heart disease, diabetes, and a multitude of other life threatening conditions. To say it ISN'T abuse, is ignorant, at best!! Obesity is DEADLY! Permitting deadly behaviors is child abuse. PERIOD.
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2009/08/04 01:01:56 (edited)
    Undecided
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +1
    some obese children may have medical issues beyond anyone's control. obese children medical issues anyones
    it's my hormones, dude.
  • Susan 2009/08/01 18:22:44
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Susan
    +3
    What is the difference between parents modeling poor coping skills by using: drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, or overeating? They all in the end can and most likely will kill you. So yes and no.

    Educate parents and you protect children. And I dont mean more parenting skills - I mean educate parents on dealing with their feelings and issues instead of avoiding them by using food, drugs, alcohol etc to cope.

    Avoiding this issue has brought us to the point of where today obesity is a sad reality for millions of children.
  • Knot_RIch 2009/07/31 15:23:06
    Undecided
    Knot_RIch
    I don't like the selections.
    I'd say yes, but not necessarily because it's child abuse.
    i'd say it should be investigated because there might be a family in need. I live in an area hard hit by rampant outsourcing of jobs, the economy is in a shambles and continuing to collapse. People struggling to merely survive, losing homes, 65% of the children fall under the school free lunch program because their families fall under poverty levels. Jobs sent to China do not return to America, those incomes are lost forever, as well as that incomes contributons to the local economy. As incomes drop, healthy eating is one of the first things sacraficed. Meat becomes more scarce, the diet changes to the cheapest food source available, and we all know what that is, the starches. This isn't always because parents are pumping their kids full of Big Macs, around here even the McDonalds are closing, it because the diet has become too healthy. You know it, I know it, same would happen to me, start eating too much starch, the waistling expands, even though you don't eat any more. Think it's coincidence the greatest number of overweight cases are among the poor? Sometimes, yes, it's bad examples and bad parenting, but we have to admit to ourselves as a country, some of it is simply because there ar...'
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    I don't like the selections.
    I'd say yes, but not necessarily because it's child abuse.
    i'd say it should be investigated because there might be a family in need. I live in an area hard hit by rampant outsourcing of jobs, the economy is in a shambles and continuing to collapse. People struggling to merely survive, losing homes, 65% of the children fall under the school free lunch program because their families fall under poverty levels. Jobs sent to China do not return to America, those incomes are lost forever, as well as that incomes contributons to the local economy. As incomes drop, healthy eating is one of the first things sacraficed. Meat becomes more scarce, the diet changes to the cheapest food source available, and we all know what that is, the starches. This isn't always because parents are pumping their kids full of Big Macs, around here even the McDonalds are closing, it because the diet has become too healthy. You know it, I know it, same would happen to me, start eating too much starch, the waistling expands, even though you don't eat any more. Think it's coincidence the greatest number of overweight cases are among the poor? Sometimes, yes, it's bad examples and bad parenting, but we have to admit to ourselves as a country, some of it is simply because there are more and more people who just can't afford to eat right any more.
    My wife and I volunteer at a Project Host one weekend a month, everyone here should try it. You can't believe how sad it is to see parents, many who have lost their homes, coming in because it's the only way they can provide their children with a decent meal. Some I know, they were once good, proud, hard working blue collar workers in a big textile mill that was shut down and the jobs sent to Bahrain. They look down when they see me, the pride gone, and sometimes it's hard not to cry.
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  • Shigyrl but outspoken on my... 2009/07/31 00:16:31
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Shigyrl but outspoken on my future
    +1
    Unless there is a documented health condition. I think childhood obesity is child abuse. Whether a parent should be criminally charged I'm not sure about that. That is something I would really have to think about. Because on the one hand government could set a precendent that would charge people who have children with medical conditions. Where will the limit be for a child to be considered obese. Since the current weight standards are not based on the varied differences of each race.
  • chosenone 2009/07/29 16:22:59
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    chosenone
    pork'' Black people wont back away from Pork. The beef fat, and pork fat, is killing them. Pork skins, Pork meat is full of fat. It carrys sickness. and evil in every bite. Pig ears. I see blacks eat ears for food. you die early.
  • Angelheart™In loving memory... 2009/07/28 22:53:19
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    Angelheart™In loving memory 10/03/09
    +1
    I think we owe it to the children of our country to offer and volunteer ourselves to promote healthy living...
  • linny 2009/07/27 14:36:53
    Undecided
    linny
    +1
    could also mean health problems.
  • dizzy 2009/07/27 02:14:48
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    dizzy
    +2
    YES, if a child was found nearly starving to death woldnt the parents be investigated for negligance... well morbid obisity carries just as many health risks and complications as starvation,,,

    they are putting this kids health at risk so the hell shouldnt they be investugated?!?!
  • ShaneDawsonSwiftKarateChopL... 2009/07/27 01:47:43
    Undecided
    ShaneDawsonSwiftKarateChopLuvver <3
    +1
    idk? maybe?
  • Brosia 2009/07/26 23:16:55
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Brosia
    +2
    Chubby is different. Too fat to walk is abuse. Because if they can no longer get the food, someone has to keep bringing it.

    Chubby - evidence child abuse chubby fat walk abuse food bringing chubby

    Harmful - child abuse chubby fat walk abuse food bringing chubby harmful (poor kid is built like the stay-puft marshmallow man)
  • PGH Ray 2009/07/26 21:48:12
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    PGH Ray
    +2
    I say it's child abuse.
  • Torchy 2009/07/26 14:02:44
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    Torchy
    +1
    It is horrible and disgusting to see such grossly overweight children, but it's not a sign of abuse. You might consider it bad parenting to allow a child to lead that sort of lifestyle but bad parenting is not the same as abuse. The most I could see is maybe neglect if they aren't watching their child at all to monitor what they're eating...but that's the worst I can think of in legal terms.
  • Louisa Torchy 2009/07/27 04:06:35
    Louisa
    +1
    Overweight is one thing, though...morbidly obese is another. If it has gotten to the point where the child has developed diabetes or other severe health problems due to their weight, is it then abuse? I tend to think it is if no real effort has been made to solve the problem- much like refusing to take a sick child to the doctor.
  • Torchy Louisa 2009/07/27 11:24:30
    Torchy
    True, but abuse I see as willfully hurting a child out of malice or anger. In this case, the kid was sneaking food...that's not the mother's fault. Besides, unless the kid is around a parent 24/7 and force-fed fat, it's not really the parent's doing. Some kids just don't learn or listen until it's too late. Schools are not exactly known for their nutritious meals, if you've ever seen "Super-Size Me," and a lot of kids go nuts on this shit when they think they aren't being watched even with proper knowledge on food. They may be young, but they are still their own person with their own decisions to make and a parent can only be held responsible or blamed for so much.
  • paul Torchy 2010/11/14 09:12:05
    paul
    +2
    what is neglect different from abuse? neglect is mental abuse in disguise, it shows you don't care about their future. you think that giving in to each and every demand is raising responsible children which will do the best for society.
    in a society which is prosecuting would be terrorists for no other reason than suspicious behavior or wrong skin color then each and everyone has to be made accountable for their contribution to society.
  • TheDisco 2009/07/26 07:58:02
    Undecided
    TheDisco
    +1
    I'm not sure what I feel in this case. As in the case referenced, the child was sneaking food when not in her custody. Genetics also have a very domineering factor in a child's weight. This is compounded with me being a strong believer in the government staying out of ones business except in the most extreme of cases. If the government does anything at all I'd prefer it to provide guidance and opportunity for one to lose the weight as much as possible.

    A kid is going to be a kid, esp. when much of the day is not spent under the direct supervision of the parent. An overweight child, while needing to be addressed in some capacity, isn't grounds in most cases for 'neglect' and the subsequent charges and government interference that comes with it.
  • Getreal 2009/07/26 03:55:59
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Getreal
    +2
    Setting your kids up for failure is no help to them or society.
  • Princess Eeyore 2009/07/26 02:57:28
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Princess Eeyore
    +3
    Yes, because it pisses me off to no end that these people who weigh like 500# and can't leave their own homes claim to eat a whole fried chicken, a whole apple pie, a gallon of milk. half a dozen baked potatoes and 3# of steak EVERYDAY. Who the fuck is paying for this, since they can't work? YOU AND ME with our tax dfollars so they can collect disability!
  • z-Madness-z 2009/07/25 22:06:04
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    z-Madness-z
    +3
    Neglect is child abuse. She neglected her child's eating habits and it got to a dangerous level. So yeah.
  • Alexis-IN GOD WE TRUST 2009/07/25 21:55:11
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Alexis-IN GOD WE TRUST
    +2
    Although I am all for the govt minding their own business and letting parents have freedom in raising their children, there are extreme situations where intervention is needed in abuse/neglect cases. I am in SC and I have heard this reported over the news for quite a while. This lady was warned to get her act together and to make changes and she chose not to do it. This is a situation where the state should have intervened.
  • Grey 2009/07/25 20:04:09
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Grey
    +3
    It is a sickness either mental or physical that should be investigated by a physician. I'm not saying the government should be involved - that's what most of us are fighting against right now. But the child should be given help.
  • Not of †his World 2009/07/25 14:53:20
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    Not of †his World
    +1
    what gives police the right to go through your cuppords judging what you feed your children?


    nobodys business family police cuppords judging feed children

  • Little Miss Summersault -Bi... 2009/07/25 14:04:20
    Yes, morbid obesity is evidence of child abuse
    Little Miss Summersault -Bitch in Training
    +2
    obviously there not getting proper nutrision morbid obesity evidence child abuse proper nutrision
  • DarlingClarissa 2009/07/25 13:24:04 (edited)
    No, it is nobody's business but the family
    DarlingClarissa
    +2
    If you want your child to suffer cruelty at the hands of other children at school, then so be it.
    If fat kid parents can be charged with child abuse, then how about we attack the parent's with anorexic kids?? fat kid parents charged child abuse attack parents anorexic kids
  • Louisa Darling... 2009/07/26 03:07:57
    Louisa
    I do believe that a child with anorexia can have their parents charged with abuse if their parents fail to do anything about the problem. It's the same as any medical condition. Which is why I think morbid obesity should be treated the same way- if a parent is actively trying to help their kid, that's not abuse. If they're ignoring the problem, that is.
  • Darling... Louisa 2009/07/26 13:48:00 (edited)
    DarlingClarissa
    I don't believe it's right- there are too many things in this society that the law involves itself with.. This is something that they should stay out of...
    And what about the kids whose parents we lock up? Do they go into foster homes where the majority of people who run these things don't even care about the children?
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