Should a woman be forced to keep a baby she concieved after being raped?
MoonshineMotor
2009/11/24 16:50:14
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No+8No woman should have to carry a child conceived by rape.God or no God,in fact I would tell God to go jump in a lake,if he thinks I would let any of my daughters or grand daughters carry a child by any Rapist dirty Scum Criminal






















This can be applied to a rape scenario. The rapist rapes the woman and injects his seed into her. The woman gets pregnant and gives birth to a child, who will most likely carry the same mentality and be just as bad as the rapist father, depending upon how they are raised. After all the trauma, the mother dies a little inside.
The person that posed this question has apparently chosen to keep the child. She sees the opportunity to mold a better person from this child. That is very laudable. The key thing here is that it is HER CHOICE, one that must not be denied. She could easily have chosen not to keep it, also a choice not to be denied.
Since I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday, I know the ideological and therefore political implications of the question. So-called conservatives have accused me of being a liberal. Liberals have accused me of being a conservative. I am not a middle of the road person either. My convictions are clear in matters on which I have commanding information. My personal convictions, that is to say my perceptions of the truth, guide me. Those perceptions change with subjects at hand. They also change with specific subjects as more facts on the matter become known.
Without equivocation, I believe in choice. You must not compel a woman to carry a baby if she wishes otherwise. If she agreed to it in a contract but changed her mind mid way, you may sue for breach of contract and have the issue resolved in a legally binding setting. The resol...
The person that posed this question has apparently chosen to keep the child. She sees the opportunity to mold a better person from this child. That is very laudable. The key thing here is that it is HER CHOICE, one that must not be denied. She could easily have chosen not to keep it, also a choice not to be denied.
Since I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday, I know the ideological and therefore political implications of the question. So-called conservatives have accused me of being a liberal. Liberals have accused me of being a conservative. I am not a middle of the road person either. My convictions are clear in matters on which I have commanding information. My personal convictions, that is to say my perceptions of the truth, guide me. Those perceptions change with subjects at hand. They also change with specific subjects as more facts on the matter become known.
Without equivocation, I believe in choice. You must not compel a woman to carry a baby if she wishes otherwise. If she agreed to it in a contract but changed her mind mid way, you may sue for breach of contract and have the issue resolved in a legally binding setting. The resolution must consider the woman’s health.
If there is no binding contract and she discovers a foetal developmental anomaly, there must not be a law preventing termination. This is where I get hate mail on the matter from “wing-nuts” of the extreme variety. It takes resources, not available to everyone, to raise a developmentally challenged child. In spite of “nutty say so”, those children are almost never adopted and as such remain stuck in families that cannot adequately care for them.
Like the person that posted this question said, if you disagree with me, shove it!
Buck up! Be reasonable. Be the Best American you can be!
"The Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the right to privacy (recognized in Griswold v. Connecticut) protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision gave a woman total autonomy over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling."
SOURCE: http://www.oyez.org/cases/197...
The 14th Amendment states: " No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
The Court has interpreted this Amendment to mean that states are prohibited from infringing on all freedoms protected by the US Constitution without due process of the law. Thus, the right to privacy protected in the various Amendments in the Bill...
The 14th Amendment states: " No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
The Court has interpreted this Amendment to mean that states are prohibited from infringing on all freedoms protected by the US Constitution without due process of the law. Thus, the right to privacy protected in the various Amendments in the Bill of Rights, now protects STATES from infringing on that right (Remember, abortion was already legal in NY and a few other states at this point. Roe v. Wade said that the States could not ban it). However when cases in regards to the 14th Amendment came up, there would be a heated debate over states' rights. That's what the dissent focuses on, that the 10th Amendment supercedes the 14th Amendment in this case, and thus states should be free to outlaw abortion if they choose.
Opinion of the Court: http://www.tourolaw.edu/Patch...
Adoption is the best option.
You prefer adoption so I ask you, how many have you personally adopted?
How many have gone un-adopted and remain languishing in homes that cannot provide adequate care?
Buck up! Be the best American you can be!
So none. And I wasn't being glib or rote.
There are people in this forum with pre-programmed ideological opinions on the matter. They glibly repeat these opinions by rote without giving them due thought.
Many of these people advance options that they have no idea of how impossible they are for others to implement. My question is directed more at them than at women who have to carry to term and then make the heart wrenching decision to give up the baby. My questions remain valid.
So, to those advocating adoptions, I ask:-
1. How many have you personally adopted?
3. How many more do you plan to adopt?
2. How many have gone un-adopted and remain languishing in homes that
cannot provide adequate care?
Buck up! Be the best American you can be!
It is still half hers even if she didn't plan to get pregnant and it is still a living human.
I see liberal demoncrats that care more about a damn mouse in San Francisco than they ever would a human life.
It is ironic that the liberal demoncrats push for what they call "healthcare" and try to include killing babies before they are born...
Try again.
If you think your kids are a pain in the ass and just getting in the way of you having fun...just kill them so they don't have to suffer in a foster home or an orphanage because you are too damn sorry to finish what you started...if your parents are old and you think that they are getting in the way or you are just sick of caring for them...kill them too!!! God knows we don't want them suffering by letting them live out their lives either...you do know how many of those pesky nursing homes we have and they are all full of old people just getting in the way.
Death is never an option...not when an innocent life is the target you wish to exterminate.
I can tell that you're the same type of person who would be complaining if I received assistance from the government to help pay for the child if I had one in this situation and did not have the money to support them.
How about you silence yourself about anything having to do with pregnancy until you have a vagina and almost faint from the pain of menstrual cramps. Men have no authority to tell women what to do with their bodies, and you, good sir, are no different.
I have raised my two kids without a mother I have 100% custody...tell your BS to somebody else. Their mother is still alive...just to damn sorry to be a mom.
I have had to live with all of the pains that come after child birth...they last quite a bit longer than your few pains. I feel bad that you hate being a female so bad that you would think that is any kind of justification for killing a baby...
It has got to be a very sad place inside your head when you think that half of a living being inside of a female is not the mans...it is both the man and the womans...but you would rather complain about it and kill it because it makes you hurt...it makes real men hurt when you kill their babies too.
So you think it is right that a woman can kill a baby and the man has no say in it at all...and if she chooses to keep it the man has no say either but he has got to pay for it for the rest of his life and have very little to no rights in raising it either?
I'll never understand that reasoning...thank God I don't understand your "all for the female and none for the male reasoning"...It would drive me to be as crazy as you seem to be.
Your ignorance of the pains a woman goes through reek of misogyny. Don't talk like you know what my life is like. Again, you're a man, so your entitlement and privilege is in full view.
As to having pains that come from being a woman, it's been like that from creation. Some women are just stronger than others and can take the pain of child birth or menstrual cramps or anything else for that matter, even emotional pain, and at least suffer in silence about it and not act like they can't handle such things. This is especially for those who are pregnant and contemplating abortion toward the very one innocent, "form of life" unaware of the tragedy which will be bestowed upon it. This is the very "life" in which the mother should be PROTECTING and not DESTROYING and not causing PAIN to i...
As to having pains that come from being a woman, it's been like that from creation. Some women are just stronger than others and can take the pain of child birth or menstrual cramps or anything else for that matter, even emotional pain, and at least suffer in silence about it and not act like they can't handle such things. This is especially for those who are pregnant and contemplating abortion toward the very one innocent, "form of life" unaware of the tragedy which will be bestowed upon it. This is the very "life" in which the mother should be PROTECTING and not DESTROYING and not causing PAIN to it as its life is slowly, tortuously being taken away!
If as a woman you are going to sit there and gripe about menstrual cramps to the point of almost fainting...you're lucky. If only the baby being aborted could lose consciousness, faint before it was being tugged and pulled, cut and suctioned apart or burned alive with saline solution getting into its eyes, nose, throat, skin as it is peeling away and just drowning in it. Yes, if only the baby could faint...
A man can not give birth to a child but that's not to say in other ways he's not suffering. Especially if he is the father of the child who is about to be aborted or has been aborted. There are men who are capable of loving that unborn child to the point that they feel like dying themselves when that woman makes that decision. There are men who would gladly give their lives instead, if only to protect their unborn child at any stage; a mass of cells, an embryo, a fetus, almost full term! There are also men whose child it isn't but would love that child as though it's their own. I've known those types of men too.
It's a tragedy to take a life no matter what the circumstance. I am a mother myself, and wouldn't change it for the world.
Jezzy, you know I've touched a nerve and that is precisely why YOU BLOCKED ME!!!!! If you don't like what people have to say then why do you even respond to hot topics like this...they are always controversial!!!
If you don't want an abortion. Don't have one. Your detailed description has no effect on me and my view of a child who is conceived due to a rape. A woman should never have to endure a pregnancy she did nothing to deserve. That's what the issue here is. Not "Oh, I fooled around and got preggers. Time to go to the abortion clinic!", in which case I agree with you. I just don't think it's fair, just, or moral to force someone who has already gone through so much trauma to go through 9 months of pregnancy for something she never gave consent to in the first place.
Oh, and some menstrual pains are worse than others, so don't insinuate that I'm weak. Thanks.
I worked in a situation where I saw more documentation on rapes than the public would unless they too were in the same line of work. The majority of those rapes were "date" related or where the woman or girl just completely lied about it to get back at a man. Not all rapes are caused by strangers out of nowhere. Some of these women had choices about the situation they put themselves in. People may say that rape is rape but with these different variables taking place...there is also that gray area and not all of it is black and white where a person can plainly see it.
I have personally known people who were truly raped by serial rapists a...
I worked in a situation where I saw more documentation on rapes than the public would unless they too were in the same line of work. The majority of those rapes were "date" related or where the woman or girl just completely lied about it to get back at a man. Not all rapes are caused by strangers out of nowhere. Some of these women had choices about the situation they put themselves in. People may say that rape is rape but with these different variables taking place...there is also that gray area and not all of it is black and white where a person can plainly see it.
I have personally known people who were truly raped by serial rapists and got pregnant and chose life and were grateful they did regardless of the emotional pain and physical pain put on them. I also knew someone who got raped and had an abortion and has regretted it for 15 years of her life and is sorry that she killed her son or daughter.
Whatever a woman chooses, she'll know at the end of her life if it was the right decision or not. I'd hate to do something like that and go through life wondering if I did the right thing, just to die and know that I didn't.
People deal with rape in different ways. Others would like to not be reminded of it and decide that they've had to go through. If you can't relate to that and that maybe, just maybe, she should not have to live up to your beliefs and reasoning, then I think you need to step back and think about how it must feel. Have you been raped? Being around rape victims and knowing rape victims are not the same thing.
Your friends chose life. Good for them.
Some people would rather choose "life" -- as in, get it back to normal the way it was before some douchebag decided to mess it up.
It's none of your damn business if I was ever raped or not or attempted at being raped at that! You're the one with KILLING on the mind...don't judge me and put me in that kind of category of those type of people. If you have been raped, then that's unfortunate but I'm just saying that there's another party...another human being whose rights don't seem to matter to women like you.
"Females" like you will NEVER understand these things.
As far as a "douchebag" messing a woman's life up goes, I can only hope that he would pay the price if it entailed rape but let's punish those who deserve it, not a child that didn't ask to go through this.